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ArchangelMadzz said:
Funny how they keep swapping places when the other reaches the holidays..

 

jonathanalis said:
Interesting how it change spots with ps4 every 6 months.

The PS4 also received 2 official price cuts during that time.  The Switch is still selling at original launch price.



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Mandalore76 said:
ArchangelMadzz said:
Funny how they keep swapping places when the other reaches the holidays..

 

jonathanalis said:
Interesting how it change spots with ps4 every 6 months.

The PS4 also received 2 official price cuts during that time.  The Switch is still selling at original launch price.

2 Official price cuts? Where did you get that from?

PS4's first official price cut was on the 9th October 2015. 2 years after launch. The switch hasn't even been out for 2 years.



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ArchangelMadzz said:
Mandalore76 said:

 

The PS4 also received 2 official price cuts during that time.  The Switch is still selling at original launch price.

2 Official price cuts? Where did you get that from?

PS4's first official price cut was on the 9th October 2015. 2 years after launch. The switch hasn't even been out for 2 years.

The Switch will be 2 years old in less than a month. The PS4 was a month and a week away from being two years old when it got an official price cut. So you made an error in your correction. 

But I get what you mean. There wasn't two official price cuts to my knowledge. Maybe he confused it with a deal? Harmless miscalculation if so.

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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

2 Official price cuts? Where did you get that from?

PS4's first official price cut was on the 9th October 2015. 2 years after launch. The switch hasn't even been out for 2 years.

The Switch will be 2 years old in less than a month. The PS4 was a month and a week away from being two years old when it got an official price cut. So you made an error in your correction. 

But I get what you mean. There wasn't two official price cuts to my knowledge. Maybe he confused it with a deal? Harmless miscalculation if so.

What did I say that wasn't correct?



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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

2 Official price cuts? Where did you get that from?

PS4's first official price cut was on the 9th October 2015. 2 years after launch. The switch hasn't even been out for 2 years.

The Switch will be 2 years old in less than a month. The PS4 was a month and a week away from being two years old when it got an official price cut. So you made an error in your correction. 

But I get what you mean. There wasn't two official price cuts to my knowledge. Maybe he confused it with a deal? Harmless miscalculation if so.

I know it launched on the 23rd (I think). But the point is still valid.



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ArchangelMadzz said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

The Switch will be 2 years old in less than a month. The PS4 was a month and a week away from being two years old when it got an official price cut. So you made an error in your correction. 

But I get what you mean. There wasn't two official price cuts to my knowledge. Maybe he confused it with a deal? Harmless miscalculation if so.

I know it launched on the 23rd (I think). But the point is still valid.

Actually your point is wrong. Had your point simply been "oh, the Switch hasn't been out for two years", you would have been correct. But that was just a supporting point you were making. What you were actually trying to get across with your comparison was that the PS4 got it's first official price cut when it had been out for two years, and that the Switch has not even been out for two years, so Mandalore's comparison is flawed because you can't say that the Switch is still selling at it's original price as a supporting point for the console when it hasn't even been out as long as the PS4 was when it got it's first price cut.

But this isn't correct. The Switch has already gone on longer than the PS4 did when it got it's first price cut. Unless you were making a different objection with the 2nd half of your comment to Mandalore's, what that objection could be I can't figure out in the slightest. At this point you should agree with Mandalore's overall point, the only thing he really got wrong was saying that the PS4 up to this point had two official price cuts, but that was only half of your reply.

Hope you get what I mean. 



AngryLittleAlchemist said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

I know it launched on the 23rd (I think). But the point is still valid.

Actually your point is wrong. Had your point simply been "oh, the Switch hasn't been out for two years", you would have been correct. But that was just a supporting point you were making. What you were actually trying to get across with your comparison was that the PS4 got it's first official price cut when it had been out for two years, and that the Switch has not even been out for two years, so Mandalore's comparison is flawed because you can't say that the Switch is still selling at it's original price as a supporting point for the console when it hasn't even been out as long as the PS4 was when it got it's first price cut.

But this isn't correct. The Switch has already gone on longer than the PS4 did when it got it's first price cut. Unless you were making a different objection with the 2nd half of your comment to Mandalore's, what that objection could be I can't figure out in the slightest. At this point you should agree with Mandalore's overall point, the only thing he really got wrong was saying that the PS4 up to this point had two official price cuts, but that was only half of your reply.

Hope you get what I mean. 

Seeing as we're nitpicking, you'd have a point if this chart was for the first 23 months. But it's for the fist 22 months. Both consoles hadn't had an official price cut within 22 months of launch.



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ArchangelMadzz said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Actually your point is wrong. Had your point simply been "oh, the Switch hasn't been out for two years", you would have been correct. But that was just a supporting point you were making. What you were actually trying to get across with your comparison was that the PS4 got it's first official price cut when it had been out for two years, and that the Switch has not even been out for two years, so Mandalore's comparison is flawed because you can't say that the Switch is still selling at it's original price as a supporting point for the console when it hasn't even been out as long as the PS4 was when it got it's first price cut.

But this isn't correct. The Switch has already gone on longer than the PS4 did when it got it's first price cut. Unless you were making a different objection with the 2nd half of your comment to Mandalore's, what that objection could be I can't figure out in the slightest. At this point you should agree with Mandalore's overall point, the only thing he really got wrong was saying that the PS4 up to this point had two official price cuts, but that was only half of your reply.

Hope you get what I mean. 

Seeing as we're nitpicking, you'd have a point if this chart was for the first 23 months. But it's for the fist 22 months. Both consoles hadn't had an official price cut within 22 months of launch.

What you just said wasn't a nitpick though? It's just moving goalposts. Mandalore said the Switch is still selling. Even if Mandalore was only talking about the chart, you are very clearly talking about now. You would have stated otherwise had that been the case, and you yourself even compared the point the Switch is at now in it's life to the point the PS4 was at on it's 24th month (though that comparison was wrong), so that was clearly never the set frame of time.

I only replied to you because you asked me what it was that you said that wasn't correct. You didn't seem to get my point, so I reiterated. No need to take it that way, man. 



AngryLittleAlchemist said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

Seeing as we're nitpicking, you'd have a point if this chart was for the first 23 months. But it's for the fist 22 months. Both consoles hadn't had an official price cut within 22 months of launch.

What you just said wasn't a nitpick though? It's just moving goalposts. Mandalore said the Switch is still selling. Even if Mandalore was only talking about the chart, you are very clearly talking about now. You would have stated otherwise had that been the case, and you yourself even compared the point the Switch is at now in it's life to the point the PS4 was at on it's 24th month (though that comparison was wrong), so that was clearly never the set frame of time.

I only replied to you because you asked me what it was that you said that wasn't correct. You didn't seem to get my point, so I reiterated. No need to take it that way, man. 

And he's right, it is still selling, but we don't know the figures for January, December is what we have and is recent enough, but that's the data we're talking about.

I just think it's pretty clear that my original point was obviously to say that PS4 hasn't had 2 official price cutxs, it took 2 years for it to get it's first and switch isn't even at the point of selling for 2 years. Which is why I accused you of nitpicking for doing a (paraphrasing) 'well actually, it got it's price cut a few weeks before it's 2nd birthday' Which still doesn't change the point because we can't even compare the switch to that as those numbers aren't even out for it's 23rd month.

The point seemed like such a miniscule point to make when it's very clear what my original comment was stating that the post I was replying to was pretty ridiculous, so I felt like this entire exchange was unnecessary, apologies for getting frustrated. 



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ArchangelMadzz said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

What you just said wasn't a nitpick though? It's just moving goalposts. Mandalore said the Switch is still selling. Even if Mandalore was only talking about the chart, you are very clearly talking about now. You would have stated otherwise had that been the case, and you yourself even compared the point the Switch is at now in it's life to the point the PS4 was at on it's 24th month (though that comparison was wrong), so that was clearly never the set frame of time.

I only replied to you because you asked me what it was that you said that wasn't correct. You didn't seem to get my point, so I reiterated. No need to take it that way, man. 

And he's right, it is still selling, but we don't know the figures for January, December is what we have and is recent enough, but that's the data we're talking about.

I just think it's pretty clear that my original point was obviously to say that PS4 hasn't had 2 official price cutxs, it took 2 years for it to get it's first and switch isn't even at the point of selling for 2 years. Which is why I accused you of nitpicking for doing a (paraphrasing) 'well actually, it got it's price cut a few weeks before it's 2nd birthday' Which still doesn't change the point because we can't even compare the switch to that as those numbers aren't even out for it's 23rd month.

The point seemed like such a miniscule point to make when it's very clear what my original comment was stating that the post I was replying to was pretty ridiculous, so I felt like this entire exchange was unnecessary, apologies for getting frustrated. 

I understand where you're coming from but ... the first part of your comment is literally just a question (which is really a correction). It isn't your overall "point". The only argument you really put forth and gave to Mandalore was the last part of your comment. The first part of it is just a question, or really more of a correction, because he made a mistake. It isn't the meat and potatoes of what you were saying. I don't even feel like that should be argued. And since I was only replying to you, it's a bit disingenuous to suddenly only care about the set time frame in the OP. My entire condition for replying was on the comparison to the 24th month. 

If you want to call that nitpicking, then just be aware you did the same exact thing to Mandalore. The only part of your reply that was correct was a nitpick of the fact that he was technically wrong on the amount of price cuts the system had. And now you're saying that was your main point. So if your main point was just to correct him on a number ... is that not a nitpick? I was at least addressing an actual argument being put forward. Mandalore's argument relies on the PS4 having a price cut, but not so much on the amount of cuts the PS4 had. That's really tangential to his overall point. On the other hand, what I replied to was very obviously the main point of your comment, and I don't know how it could be claimed otherwise. Again, the first half of your comment wasn't an argument it was just a factual correction, the second part of it is the only part where you're actually making a point to be argued for. 

I just feel like I needed to state all of this because I don't want to end the discussion on a summary that I take issue with. But, I don't think it needs to be argued anymore. No need in getting frustrated over this. Cheers.