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Which would you prefer if pushed.

HDR. 23 58.97%
 
Ray tracing. 8 20.51%
 
Neither/other in comments. 8 20.51%
 
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SvennoJ on 23 February 2019
John2290 said:
I went back to GT sport and RDR 2 to compare 4k to Meteo exodus. RDR 2 makes absolutely crap use of 4k. GT sport still holds up but it's used more for scale of things rather than detail. Metro is the best use of 4k yet, putting more stuff on screen while allowing for insane amounts of detail right to the furthest objects away on the screen as well as making use of real estate and cramming in stuff on screen along with all the usual pluses like no ailsing and a sharper image overall. Going from 4k to 1080p in ME is like going from a mid 8th gen title to a late cycle 7th gen title. Majour difference and I hope developer utilize it more as has been done here.
I'm assuming Sony exclusives don't foot this well to maintain parity with the OG.

I should go back to this scene in HZD some time to see how it looks with HDR
Cramming detail in happens plenty in Sony exclusives! And RDR2 did not have any HDR, it was nothing but a fake HDR header to stretch the contrast, not expand it.



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SvennoJ on 06 April 2019
John2290 said:
SvennoJ said:

Hey svennoj, would you be able to answer something for me?

I have a TV  which when I bought it was supposed to have 1750 nits but when I try to adjust settings on games where you can set the maximum nits, it never looks any difference past 1300 nits 1.) is this good compared to premium Tv's and 2.) What would be a good nit range if I were to buy a new mid range TV and what are premium TV's able to do? 3.) What is standard luminosity on a SDR display. Am I missing out on a great deal at 1300 nits? 

The 1750 nits is probably the quoted figure for 2% peak window. 1300 is pretty good for full screen.
Check here for nits (cd/m2) ranges https://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/picture-quality/peak-brightness
Of course advertising could be wrong, the game could be wrong.

Standard luminosity on SDR tvs is about 150 to 200 nits (around 50 Foot Lambert)

GTS is made to go up to 10,000 nits. No tv exists yet to display the full range.

You only miss out when you set it too high. You're simply adjusting the contrast range and risk white crush if you set it too high.



Chazore on 30 April 2019
John2290 said:
HDR usually adds a nice coat on top of a good looking game but days gone is the first game that I have seen where the graphics actually suffer majorily without it. They really rely on shadows and contrast to make things pop, turning off HDR in this game is like changing graphics settings on a PC.

It's sorta like that whenever I'm sporting a Sweetfx reshade profile, turning it on and off is like night and day. 



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Chazore on 13 May 2019
John2290 said:

Nah, "sort of" ues but not really close at all. I suppose it would be a decent analogy though.

What? 



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SvennoJ on 29 September 2019

I have abandoned HDR in favor of playing whenever I want on the old 1080p LCD. Perhaps tonight I'll hook the pro back up to the 4K HDR telly to see what the Tokyo expressway race in the rain at night looks like. If that doesn't blow me away after playing on the old tv for so long... It probably will.

VR still draws me in more though. NMS got a lot sharper on PSVR after the recent patch. So immersive, so much better than on tv. Except the controls that is. If it would let me use the DS$4 without drifty motion tracking it would be perfect. Just give me a cursor like on the tv screen and enable bash (R1) so I can go fast with the jet pack in VR as well. Comfort features and light bulb motion tracking is what's holding PSVR back.

Anyway, even if HDR blows me away again, still not worth moving the ps4 back and forth for. Next gen better not have a breakout box to complicate things.



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SammyGiireal on 29 September 2019
John2290 said:
Random_Matt said:
Used it with Odyssey on X1X, it's nicer but can live without it.

Third party games gave nothing on the way it is implemented in first party Sony exclusives. Horizon, GoW and GT sport are far ahead of any other games with HDR including other exclusives like Detroit, Spiderman or Uncharted LL and those are still better than than games like Monster hunter, Odessy, Red dead 2 or Resident evil 7/ Re2. Some of which are fake HDR or very poor implementation. Very few third party games have gotten close to Sony's bigguns, The witcher 3 maybe.

Trust me, I've spent dozens of hours now examining each after finishing them plat'ing them all before I played in HDR. 

Horizon Zero Dawn is a feast for the eyes. RDR2 for awhile actually looked better in SDR, that with HDR on.



Azzanation on 30 September 2019

If you really enjoy HDR than check out Gears 5. DF claims it themselves as the best implementations of the effect to date.

@10:37

HDR made me buy a 4k TV, its a great addition to Ultra resolution.



DonFerrari on 30 September 2019
SammyGiireal said:
John2290 said:

Third party games gave nothing on the way it is implemented in first party Sony exclusives. Horizon, GoW and GT sport are far ahead of any other games with HDR including other exclusives like Detroit, Spiderman or Uncharted LL and those are still better than than games like Monster hunter, Odessy, Red dead 2 or Resident evil 7/ Re2. Some of which are fake HDR or very poor implementation. Very few third party games have gotten close to Sony's bigguns, The witcher 3 maybe.

Trust me, I've spent dozens of hours now examining each after finishing them plat'ing them all before I played in HDR. 

Horizon Zero Dawn is a feast for the eyes. RDR2 for awhile actually looked better in SDR, that with HDR on.

RDR2 doesn't have HDR. They just made a fumble and called it HDR, it does make the game looks 10x worse.



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finalrpgfantasy on 15 October 2019
LivingMetal said:
I bought a Sony 4K for the HDR primary and the 4K secondary. if my previous TV had HDR, I would not have bought the new one.

Me too.  After my Samsung 4k tv failed after a year and a half, I started looking for a tv with good HDR (my Samsung TV HDR was horrible) and one of the best non-OLED tv on the market is the Sony XF900 series.



Conina on 15 October 2019

Today I got my first 4K TV with HDR10 + Dolby Vision, so I will check a lot of these games out on my PS4 Pro and my Xbox One X. I'll probably also try some PC HDR games with the new TV, when the announced "G-Sync compatible" firmware gets released.

It's an LG OLED55C9PLA with OLED, HDMI 2.1 and very low input lag. The Xbox One X already can connect with it in the display modes "4K 60 Hz 10 bit VRR" (variable refresh rate, FreeSync) or "1440p 120 Hz 10 bit VRR"... but I'll have to wait for PS5 or Xbox Scarlett for the full "4K 120 Hz 10 bit" experience (with 30 fps locked games)

I temporarily disconnected my PSVR, since I have the old model without HDR passthrough. :(