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AngryLittleAlchemist on 29 January 2019
RolStoppable said:

My moderation history has to do with attitude and yes, you are right that attitude plays the bigger role. However, it isn't my attitude that is of importance here, but rather the mod team's. It is irrelevant how good of an application I write, because the selection process depends first and foremost on how much the mod team likes any given user.

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Lastly, one thing that is expected from members of a mod team is that they are role models for regular members, but this concerted effort of yours to eliminate a user from a tournament is just about as petty and childish as it can get.

Don't these two points conflict with one another? On the one hand you're saying that you won't get accepted as a mod because the mod team doesn't like you, but on the other you're 100% certain that the mod team voting you as the least greatest user across the board is a concerted effort in a plot to get you out of the competition. Given the first claim, isn't it just more likely that every member of the mod team doesn't like you/doesn't like you as much as the other members, and thus are naturally voting for you as the least greatest? 

Although I will say that you probably have no chance honestly, maybe if you were on good terms for two years at least, but even then. That's why I didn't sign up. 



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kirby007 on 29 January 2019

You almost sold me on making an app cgi



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Raven on 29 January 2019
RolStoppable said:
Pemalite said:

Moderation history is only part of the equation... There are many aspects that are considered for a moderator role.

Attitude is probably a bigger aspect... (And you haven't set a good example of that if this thread is a gauge.)
In short, just like applying for a job in the real world, you need to sell yourself, not let others do the hard work for you.

At the end of the day... I wouldn't like to see anyone dissuaded from applying, you only live once... If you have a passion for something go for it at full speed, otherwise you will miss out and you will have no one else to blame but yourself.

If you feel you have fallen short this year, that's fine, make an effort, learn from your mistakes, change, improve and strive forwards for next time. (Or don't, entirely up to you.)
But feel free to still submit an application.

Good luck to everyone who has/will put an application in!

My moderation history has to do with attitude and yes, you are right that attitude plays the bigger role. However, it isn't my attitude that is of importance here, but rather the mod team's. It is irrelevant how good of an application I write, because the selection process depends first and foremost on how much the mod team likes any given user.

Perhaps it is fate that concurrently to your post the Greatest User Tournament with my round is active.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=239136

Said thread provides all the proof I need to irrefutably back up what I am saying in this thread. Everyone is free to take a look over the statistics of the GUT threads (number of total votes in each thread, who voted in which threads, who voted who), and everyone who honestly does that will be hard-pressed to conclude anything other than my thread having the most votes and a concerted effort by the mod team to vote me out.

Those same people who try to eliminate me from the tournament are the ones who would decide over my mod application if I submitted one. What I am displaying is not a defeatist attitude, but a firm grasp of reality. You can't tell me with a straight face that my chances to become a mod are greater than 0% and therefore it is clear that it is absolutely pointless for me to make the effort and submit an application.

If you intend to put the blame for the current situation on me, consider that a lot of people like my attitude. After all, that's why you guys teamed up to vote against me in the GUT in the first place.

Lastly, one thing that is expected from members of a mod team is that they are role models for regular members, but this concerted effort of yours to eliminate a user from a tournament is just about as petty and childish as it can get.

The fact that you think the effort is in any way concerted or coordinated rather than having a chance to do with your own interactions with staff, how you carry yourself in debates, or how you choose to express yourself in situations where a more collaborative and constructive attitude would prevail otherwise is frankly embarrassingly indicative of your potential as a moderator. There is no need for a conspiracy when the truth is evident at first glance. 



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kirby007 on 29 January 2019

Its like the guys from visioneck voting for visioneck



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kirby007 on 29 January 2019
RolStoppable said:
cycycychris said:

Your saying that the mod staff is colluding against you in the GUT thread and trying to stack the books for Raven. While I am highly skeptical of your assertion, I've gone through the trouble to review the assertion and I'll present my findings. First I counted how many mods were in a round and how many mods voted

(...)

I think we can all agree that there is no strong correlation between your round and getting more votes from the mod team. Heck your round didn't even get the highest number of votes from members of the mod team. So then I looked at if new mods were voting in your round. Based on what I found, there was only 1 first time voter mod. Which I still see no issue with.  I also don't see a strong correlation that mods vote more in mod rounds than none mod rounds.

So now I considered if I change in any way the means that I advertised this round and again I didn't. Like previous round I posted the link within the modchat, VGC discord and a Nintendo Discord. So again, I come back to how the mods influenced the results. I looked through chat and forum histories and I can't find any mass go vote rol down going on, what we have here is a bunch of popular users were in a single round due to the randomly generated rounds. This whole thing about the mods colluding your round is just outright ridiculous in my opinion.

I trust you that the numbers are correct, so I retract my assertion regarding this year's GUT completely.

did you check for discord users



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Pemalite on 29 January 2019
RolStoppable said:

My moderation history has to do with attitude and yes, you are right that attitude plays the bigger role. However, it isn't my attitude that is of importance here, but rather the mod team's.

Nope you are wrong. The fact you cannot recognize your own faults and shift the blame to others is part of the intrinsic issue.

RolStoppable said:

It is irrelevant how good of an application I write, because the selection process depends first and foremost on how much the mod team likes any given user.

Perhaps it is fate that concurrently to your post the Greatest User Tournament with my round is active.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=239136

That has absolutely nothing to do with the price of beans in China.

RolStoppable said:

Said thread provides all the proof I need to irrefutably back up what I am saying in this thread. Everyone is free to take a look over the statistics of the GUT threads (number of total votes in each thread, who voted in which threads, who voted who), and everyone who honestly does that will be hard-pressed to conclude anything other than my thread having the most votes and a concerted effort by the mod team to vote me out.

Those same people who try to eliminate me from the tournament are the ones who would decide over my mod application if I submitted one. What I am displaying is not a defeatist attitude, but a firm grasp of reality. You can't tell me with a straight face that my chances to become a mod are greater than 0% and therefore it is clear that it is absolutely pointless for me to make the effort and submit an application.

If you intend to put the blame for the current situation on me, consider that a lot of people like my attitude. After all, that's why you guys teamed up to vote against me in the GUT in the first place.

Lastly, one thing that is expected from members of a mod team is that they are role models for regular members, but this concerted effort of yours to eliminate a user from a tournament is just about as petty and childish as it can get.

Your incessant complaining isn't making your situation any better, it's exactly why I and many others placed you last. - Your conspiracy theory that there was a concerted effort to eliminate you is just that... A conspiracy theory.
We individually voted with how we felt... Remember, you didn't exactly give me a good vote either so you don't really have the right to whinge when the favor is returned... But at the end of the day, the Greatest User Tournament is a bit of harmless fun, not everyone is going to get favorable votes from everyone, we all have preferential likes towards certain users over others... End of the day, don't take it personally and move on.

The fault of the current slate of things rests entirely within your own hands... Blaming everyone else for your own mishaps isn't what being a moderator is all about and clearly you have missed that memo.

This is probably not the appropriate thread to discuss this anyway.


If you want to put an application in, go ahead. - There will probably be deliberation and a listing of the pro's and con's of your application and how it measures against others.

If you don't put an application in, then that is your choice as well, I won't loose any sleep over it, but I also don't want to see people dissuaded from attempting to put an application in for any kind of reason.

kirby007 said:
You almost sold me on making an app cgi

Please do!



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super_etecoon on 30 January 2019

I love this thread.



kirby007 on 30 January 2019

Say @talon could you give me some insight who upvoted in this thread?



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COKTOE on 30 January 2019
kirby007 said:
Say @talon could you give me some insight who upvoted in this thread?

Are you asking him who upvoted the individual comments? I assume this is the case, because I can't think of any other meaning to your request. I kinda doubt you'll be getting that information, but if you do, use your newfound power to blackmail wisely.



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kirby007 on 30 January 2019
CGI-Quality said:
COKTOE said:

Are you asking him who upvoted the individual comments? I assume this is the case, because I can't think of any other meaning to your request. I kinda doubt you'll be getting that information, but if you do, use your newfound power to blackmail wisely.

He is unlikely to receive that info. :P

Indeed i need to do a proper tag @Talonman



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