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KingofTrolls said:
OTBWY said:

Everyone sees what they want to see.

I see the PS4 won 2018, and the PS4 exclusives perphaps beating Switch exclusives in sales/metascore.

Good. That's a nice perspective. I see something else. I see Nintendo having the biggest comeback in gaming ever in under 2 years, after the failure of the WiiU. Not only that, but having 2 of GOTY worthy games in its first year. To me, the Switch is becoming the console that will maybe replace the SNES as my favourite system of all time.



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I completely agree with you OTBWY :)



OTBWY said:

Good. That's a nice perspective. I see something else. I see Nintendo having the biggest comeback in gaming ever in under 2 years, after the failure of the WiiU. 

Lucky me, this is not only my POV, but I got the numbers to support it. We are so late in the gen, than its safe to say PS4 breaks all the predictions, in all kinds and shapes one can predict, and also was a huge comeback for Sony, because PS3 was just a "fine" console overall.

Yep, Nintendo had its comeback with Switch - the other side of the coin is - and what all of you here reject to consider it-  what the price of it is.

They have now only the 1, not 2 active separate gaming platforms ( last year it was hidden thanks to Minis,but thats all ),  the top scoring exclusives on Meta above 90 for Switch so far, despite all the party and big words here, it is only  Super Mario Odyssey that is a brand new game, the rest is necrobumpin Wii U's games. I remember well Remasterstation4 here before, and yep, only TloUR in the top scoring exclusives, so far.

Despite all the walls of text how good Switch will perfom in software because unification, the actual line up for 2018 was a disaster, the 2019 looks only slighty better, the 3rd parties are nowhere to be seen, heck, even Vita and some 3DS games got their new installments on PS4, not Switch.

The brand new ideas for Switch, what Nintendo is known of it, new unique ideas, we all heard it multiple times, like the Labo or Arms... you know it already, so I will not waste my keyboard. Funny thing is, this is the actual Switch, that is so glorified, aaaand what bring in cancers from classic platforms like DLCs or paid online in Nintendo' sphere.

The sales fight between  the PS4 and Switch is now over. PS4 is simply too old, it did what it had to. It managed to outsold it, period, try next time. I dont like the Nintendo sales model where the bulk of the sales is done in Holidays/Christmas, because it's more who has the better deals, not who has better product/games, the game is rigged, i prefer to compare the sales in normal periods without it, but hey, sales is sales.

I see what u are doing here on this forum, u simply had it coming.

 

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So the new argument is that Switch wins holidays because of deals?

PS4 was $100 off with a game in the US for BF week and big discounts in Europe/Japan for most of December.

All XBO models were $100 off for like 5 weeks over the holidays.

Switch had a game bundled for BF and some $25 gift cards at certain retailers in December.



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zorg1000 said:
So the new argument is that Switch wins holidays because of deals?

Deals+Smash.

Living in Europe for over 20 years, never saw a really big price drop for PS in December.



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KingofTrolls said:
zorg1000 said:
So the new argument is that Switch wins holidays because of deals?

Deals+Smash.

Living in Europe for over 20 years, never saw a really big price drop for PS in December.

But the others had significantly better deals so deals is not a valid argument.

People were talking about some nice deals in various threads on here and resetera.



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zorg1000 said:

But the others had significantly better deals so deals is not a valid argument.

The best deals for PS4 were in November, Pro+Spider, the only one other good deals I remember is PS VR ( without PS4 ) with 2 games. The deals in December were abysmal compared to that.

Oh, because we talking the new ideas, yes, the PS VR is totally a new idea here, new way to consume games. Meh games like Thumper are glourios in VR, the PSVR got it ground for once, great achievemnt.

What stands for our discussion, the problem I see here is that over 50% of Switch's sales last year were done in Holidays, and Holidays=deals by default. For comparison, PS4 got 5.2 or 4, what is closer to 25%. Lazy to count.

Not to even bring the thread that N consoles generally have its peak faster than PS, thats another big discussion.

Edit - please do not bring Xbox One in any kind of sales discussion, the MS cut it willingy long time ago.



KingofTrolls said:

They have now only the 1, not 2 active separate gaming platforms ( last year it was hidden thanks to Minis,but thats all ),  the top scoring exclusives on Meta above 90 for Switch so far, despite all the party and big words here, it is only  Super Mario Odyssey that is a brand new game, the rest is necrobumpin Wii U's games. I remember well Remasterstation4 here before, and yep, only TloUR in the top scoring exclusives, so far.

I know you've been moderated for trolling but still, I want to answer that particular (false) statement. If we only count Super Mario Odyssey as the only top scoring game, a game released on the first year of the Switch, it's still more than PS4 (which has any 97/100 metacritic exclusive game despite being on its 6th year).

But you have to put BOTW here, despite being released simultaneously on the Wii U. And why not count Super Smash Bros Ultimate ? It got 92/100.



SKMBlake said:

I know you've been moderated for trolling 

The moderator send me a PM, from I what read, not native speaker, but I understand there is no problem with my statements per se, it is with the way Im expressing it.

The quote from Moderation Team PM

(This is.....a bit much. Not that I find your overall view to be a problem, rather, the disruptive way in which you presented it. Try not to bait Nintendo fans in this fashion, as it will only lead to more problems.)



KingofTrolls said:
SKMBlake said:

I know you've been moderated for trolling 

The moderator send me a PM, from I what read, not native speaker, but I understand there is no problem with my statements per se, it is with the way Im expressing it.

The quote from Moderation Team PM

(This is.....a bit much. Not that I find your overall view to be a problem, rather, the disruptive way in which you presented it. Try not to bait Nintendo fans in this fashion, as it will only lead to more problems.)

Well, saying "the only new game is Super Mario Odyssey" is kind of trolling, and definitely baiting Nintendo fans.