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colafitte said:
RolStoppable said:

About 2/3 of the total sales.

Thanks!. It's superweird how a console can do so well in USA+UK but so bad in the rest of the world...

I guess xbox and 360 were really popular there so they focused on those countries, ads, kind of games... Even the 360 was not that big outside those countries (of course more than XONE). Maybe Kinect and other games made it more popular in the European market, but imo the public they gained was also due to ps3 high price during its firsts years and not very "loyal", when they saw ps4 was more powerful and cheaper they didn't doubt. In my case in Spain 2 or 3 friends had 360 but they bought ps4 after that.



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colafitte said:

And despite that the rest is not 5 times better than France or Germany like in the case I'm pointing out.


... making a lot of assumptions i didn't made. I didn't use "a ratio of a ratio". Where did you get that? the % i used was between two absolute numbers being the second a 100% bigger than the first.

I am sorry but do you even understand what you are writting ?

 

5 TIMES BETTER.

 

You said it. You are comparing a 20% YOY increase (a ratio) with a 100% YOY increase (a ration) and you do 100/20 (a ratio). What do we have ? A ratio of a ratio. Looking at the YOY increase is already a nonsense, but we can even look at the share of "the rest" for PS4, X1 and Switch for 2018

 

PS4 : 7469K - 1100K - 1163K - 959K = 4247K. 56.86% of the european market is outside the big three for the PS4.

X1 : 1805 - 600K - 246K - 309K = 654K. 36.23% of the european market is outside the big three for the X1.

Switch : 4742- 821 - 691 - 1131 = 2099K. 44.26% of the european market is outside the big three for the Switch.

 

Short story : in 2017, the Switch had a share for "the rest" similar to the X1. Hardcore fans. In 2018 they started to be a "everybody's console". Simple and easy.

 

Right in the middle. What, do you expect that the big three have a bigger share than X1 for the Nintendo Switch ? And by the way, when you were again spamming a similar message in the December 22nd topic, I am getting tired of the "prove me wrong".

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Clank said:
colafitte said:

Thanks!. It's superweird how a console can do so well in USA+UK but so bad in the rest of the world...

I guess xbox and 360 were really popular there so they focused on those countries, ads, kind of games... Even the 360 was not that big outside those countries (of course more than XONE). Maybe Kinect and other games made it more popular in the European market, but imo the public they gained was also due to ps3 high price during its firsts years and not very "loyal", when they saw ps4 was more powerful and cheaper they didn't doubt. In my case in Spain 2 or 3 friends had 360 but they bought ps4 after that.

As a Spanish too, we are the least surprised about XBO doing bad, but I did not expected such decline in other countries... 



Evilms said:

Finally, the sales of the XB1 is 41 million consoles.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/xbox-one-global-sales-at-41-million-digital-sale-ratio-far-higher-on-xbox-one-than-on-other-platforms.95535/

So, assuming Switch isn't similarly overtracked here, the gap is just 11 million or even less. 

Maybe 2019 will be the year Switch overtakes Xbone after all.



colafitte said:
Clank said:

I guess xbox and 360 were really popular there so they focused on those countries, ads, kind of games... Even the 360 was not that big outside those countries (of course more than XONE). Maybe Kinect and other games made it more popular in the European market, but imo the public they gained was also due to ps3 high price during its firsts years and not very "loyal", when they saw ps4 was more powerful and cheaper they didn't doubt. In my case in Spain 2 or 3 friends had 360 but they bought ps4 after that.

As a Spanish too, we are the least surprised about XBO doing bad, but I did not expected such decline in other countries... 

It had a 93% drop from 360 in Japan!!!!



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zorg1000 said:
colafitte said:

As a Spanish too, we are the least surprised about XBO doing bad, but I did not expected such decline in other countries... 

It had a 93% drop from 360 in Japan!!!!

Thats crazy, I could only see xbox one in bookoff when i was living there (second hand shop). I guess the market also dropped there and they were the weakest victim... I also see Japanese market as something really stable, if something does well it will stay like that, and if it gets popular people will just buy (ok this sounds a bit dumb sorry), but it is really difficult for a console like xbox one to grow after the tragic sales of firsts weeks 



People in Europe (except UK) just don't like Microsoft products. We have Windows because there's no choice. We all had Windows at school, work, home because the Mac was only for freaks. But outside of that, you really can see that we avoid Microsoft products. Being such a strong brand with so much money of course they still sell a ton of products over here but if you put it into perspective you can see that we really avoid their products. I think it's because we don't like to be controlled by a big US company (only to forget about it when it comes to Smartphones, but even there, Samsung is stronger over here).

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Fight-the-Streets said:
People in Europe (except UK) just don't like Microsoft products. We have Windows because there's no choice. We all had Windows at school, work, home because the Mac was only for freaks. But outside of that, you really can see that we avoid Microsoft products. Being such a strong brand we so much money of course they still sell a ton of products over here but if you put it into perspective you can see that we really avoid their products. I think it's because we don't like to be controlled by a big US company (only to forget about it when it comes to Smartphones, but even there, Samsung is stronger over here).

In Spain we have some kind of phobia related to Microsoft brand because of Windows and Bill Gates. I never understood why but it is the way it is here. 



colafitte said:
Clank said:

I guess xbox and 360 were really popular there so they focused on those countries, ads, kind of games... Even the 360 was not that big outside those countries (of course more than XONE). Maybe Kinect and other games made it more popular in the European market, but imo the public they gained was also due to ps3 high price during its firsts years and not very "loyal", when they saw ps4 was more powerful and cheaper they didn't doubt. In my case in Spain 2 or 3 friends had 360 but they bought ps4 after that.

As a Spanish too, we are the least surprised about XBO doing bad, but I did not expected such decline in other countries... 

In my opinion it was ps3 high price that helped xbox360 grow in european market. I remember the price was like 500e (not sure) compared 200 for ps2. Also high price of xbox one with kinect just killed the few options of the console here.

 

I also remember how at least here xbox 360 got rly popular to play cod games bc of the better and faster controls (just an anecdote).

 

Still its just a theory, its gonna be hard since ps ips are really big in europe but I hope Microsoft can do better next gen and show a bit of competition... Also curious about nintendo since home consoles dont do extremely well in EU (compared to other markets) but handhelds do so idk about switch haha



colafitte said:
Fight-the-Streets said:
People in Europe (except UK) just don't like Microsoft products. We have Windows because there's no choice. We all had Windows at school, work, home because the Mac was only for freaks. But outside of that, you really can see that we avoid Microsoft products. Being such a strong brand we so much money of course they still sell a ton of products over here but if you put it into perspective you can see that we really avoid their products. I think it's because we don't like to be controlled by a big US company (only to forget about it when it comes to Smartphones, but even there, Samsung is stronger over here).

In Spain we have some kind of phobia related to Microsoft brand because of Windows and Bill Gates. I never understood why but it is the way it is here. 

Is it? I have always heard people complaining about windows and all but I thought it was just the normal for spanish people (to complain about many stuff)... But thinking about it theres always been this disconfort with their products (I thought it was everywhere the same lol)