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I am underwhelmed by my 4K TV and maybe X1X already has the GPU power for 9th gen.

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Some of you guys are asking some technical questions, but ultimately a 4x pixel count just isn't a boost in clarity I anticipated. A common comparison is its not the jump from 480p to HD. The disparity from 720p to 1080p is also more apparent. I actually fiddled with various resolutions on the console just to see if I can detect a difference, but the disparity just wasn't that significant unless I'm looking very close.

Either way, I do like games running north of 1080p because super sampling looks great on a 1080p screen. But I'm sure 9th gen games will still look great at 1080p with good AA. I feel 1080p is a sweet spot because its inherently sharp to the human eye. However, 1080p with no AA can look bad due to jaggies.



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Yeah i feel the same, bought a 55inch samsung 4ktv and a Ps4 pro, cant really tell a differeance even when i connect PSVR ( which then only does 1080p) and play normal games. Dissapointing really



I definitely notice a difference on my LG 4K OLED, curved screen. I don't have the required distance for a flat panel screen, so i got curved, as it requires less distance to be away from the tv to view.



Mr Puggsly said:

So I got a good deal on a Vizio 4K TV, which I was mostly motivated to buy for use with my Xbox One X.

However, after spending time with numerous games I don't see a significant disparity over 1080p on my 50 inch screen. I genuinely feel the X1X alone was already a huge improvement on a 1080p screen due to improved resolutions, super sampling, graphics settings, etc.

Even when I'm playing games that allow a switch to 1080p or 4K for performance reasons, I do detect a little more sharpness but its not that significant. Maybe I'm just not focusing on the presentation enough to appreciate it.

However I'm not suggesting games going above 1080p is a waste of resources and just a bunch of hype. Because I feel the benefits of super sampling are actually great on a 1080p screen. I think the games I appreciate the most with a resolution boost is actually BC content, because they originally had low resolutions with lousy AA and AF. Meanwhile the extra clarity of 4K in modern games is nice for those who appreciate more than I do. Also, most games are built for base consoles so X1X can easily go north of 1080p and sometimes 4K with ease.

When it comes to next gen though, I don't feel like we need a push for 4K. I think pushing better visuals next gen at 1080p-1440p with good AA and 60 fps would actually be perfectly acceptable for most consumers. I know some people here can still tolerate drops down to ~480p... but I still think hitting 1080p at a minimum should be a goal.

There is a rumor MS's 9th gen Xbox will have a budget and premium model. In theory, maybe MS could make a budget box with the GPU power at par with X1X or a little better, with a Ryzen CPU much more capable of 60 fps in modern games and at least 16 of RAM dedicated to games. I think that would actually be fine for 9th gen games. Essentially, if MS could do that while aiming for $299 that could actually give MS a price edge while giving people the ability to play 9th gen content at a modest price.

I bet you forgot the most important ingredient when venturing first time into the world of 4k. You forgot to apply a drop of liquid LSD to the tip of your penis. Thats what i did the first time when i played games on my new 4k tv. It was truly an orgasmic experience. Exactly what i expected from merely higher resolution...



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Not wanting to piss on your buy, but there is a very good chance of the TV you bought being bad or you sitting to far.

Mine is 65" and I sit 5ft away from it so I can see the difference. Even on PS4pro that is checkerboard (but unfortunately not many games offer it), GoW I thought didn't had much difference (on FF XV when turning on and off I couldn't see much difference so I stuck to performance mode, because on high resolution sometimes performance dips were a problem on the play) but then when I put on a 1080p screen I saw a very big difference (so perhaps my TV upscaler is quite competent and mask some of the difference when I chose to have 1080p on the content).



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

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Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

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Sixteenvolt420 said:
I definitely notice a difference on my LG 4K OLED, curved screen. I don't have the required distance for a flat panel screen, so i got curved, as it requires less distance to be away from the tv to view.

Someone likely lied to you.

The "recommended distance" is a type of lie. It is actually reverse.

It is more like the closer you are to the TV the more resolution or smaller screen you need. The curved screen was a type of marketing stunt with the added down side of being less optimal for people outside of the center of projection of the TV.

I sit very close to my TV (5ft) and it is 65", so less than 4K I can even see "dots" on the image. It is flat and I have no issue, I still have corners on my view and could go for perhaps even 85-100" on same distance on 8k.

For some days when I bought a projector to my condominium I was testing it, and I had full wall (over 200") playing Shadow of Mordor, I was like 8ft away or less and it was just fantastic.

Similarly I use the PSVR to play some non VR game and depending on the game I use small or large screen (one I can see the corners as if watching a 120" screen other it seems like 300" and I lose corners - need small head turns to look there) and my only complain on playing like this is that the resolution is too small so I can see the pixels to clearly, VR will be just fantastic on 8K.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Ehh at 1080p some games look like everything is covered in oil, 2k or 4k or 8k it will look the same. Until games are made with internal resolution of 4k in mind, differences will be negligible.



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I have said this a million times......... Resolution is not as important as most will have people believe.

Simple truth is that if sitting anywhere from 8ft to 10ft from a TV it starts getting pretty hard pointing out the difference "at a glance" between 4k and 1080p. Things like HDR are actually more obvious that "higher resolutions".

And I am with you on the next gen thing; I honestly would prefer some sort of 4kCB solution that allows devs run most games at 60fps or at 30fps with a lot more glitz and glamour. I am still in the camp that feels the resources sent on pushing higher resolutions is nothing but a waste. I mean its nice to have, but I feel there are things more important than the sez of a game.........



This is exactly why I haven't been over hyping the Xbox One X or even the PS4 Pro. I have several models of Xbox and both models of PS4 as we speak. I also have 4K and 1080p TVs and I consider myself a person who knows his tech and how to fine tune an image. While you can see the improvements, for me, it just isn't as "night and day" as some would lead you to believe.

Even watching and enjoying tons of Digital Foundry videos, I find myself just not seeing the differences that they highlight. There's a bit of "The Emperor is wearing new clothes" going on. I hop between my Xbox One X in 4K and standard Xbox on a 1080p set all the time. I never find myself saying "This one looks like crap" or 'This one looks incredible".

And yeah, I also google searched the ideal settings and then played with it to get the image that is best for my personal tastes.



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