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I prefer film in...

24 fps. 28 62.22%
 
30 fps. 3 6.67%
 
48 fps. 4 8.89%
 
60 fps. 4 8.89%
 
North of 60.... 3 6.67%
 
Any/indifferent/comments/middle America. 3 6.67%
 
Total:45
John2290 said:
vivster said:

The #masterrace is playing on a minimum of 4k120, you're not quite there yet.

My ass. Even the best 10 series cards would find it hard to reach over 60 at 4k on new games and 20 series RTX cards are finding it even harder to get up over 30 stably. I watch DF religiously even through the monotonous card reviews. Looking forward to seeing how the AMD radeon 7 performs but I'd hardly think it'll be 120 4k. Hahhaha. 

Then they'll have either multiple GPUs or lower the settings to reach that goal. If you're not playing at 4k120 right now, you're not part of the #masterrace, it's that simple. A 2080ti can easily do Rocket League at 4k144 and Rocket League is objectively the best game ever made and the only game one would ever need.



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vivster said:
John2290 said:

My ass. Even the best 10 series cards would find it hard to reach over 60 at 4k on new games and 20 series RTX cards are finding it even harder to get up over 30 stably. I watch DF religiously even through the monotonous card reviews. Looking forward to seeing how the AMD radeon 7 performs but I'd hardly think it'll be 120 4k. Hahhaha. 

Then they'll have either multiple GPUs or lower the settings to reach that goal. If you're not playing at 4k120 right now, you're not part of the #masterrace, it's that simple. A 2080ti can easily do Rocket League at 4k144 and Rocket League is objectively the best game ever made and the only game one would ever need.

Bah, if you said Tetris on a 8K 480hz monitor I might have believed you. Them blocks need to glide smoothly into place. Plus the 8K will be good for 270 player battles on the same screen.

Imgur can't even host 8K jpg... you get the idea :p



I haven't read all the comments in this thread...

But have you tried turning off the smooth motion, cinemotion, etc, option that is standard on all televisions these days? All TVs should be adjusted on their first use to turn this off.



I remember going to watch one of the Hobbit films at the cinema being shown at 60fps (also remember all the criticism it got for it, how it looked like a day time soap because of it) and at the time my thinking was simply "better frames will be better (better is better, right?)" and my god I hated it and straight away understood what all those critics meant.

It did make it look like a day time soap opera and cheap, and this was a multi-million pound/dollar movie! I never wanted to see another movie like that again, it sort of spoiled the movie for me.

I would accept that it might be because my brain has been trained to accept movies at 24 frames, as that's what all movie are being made in (and I watch allot of movies!) and with time I could (maaaaaybe) accept higher frames and learn to love them... but heck it would take a long time!



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SvennoJ said:
CGI-Quality said:

 

Perhaps that's why games are still not considered art :) Not enough control over content delivery.

I can see that. 



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Self fart smelling critics? Haha I love that.

I've never had a problem with film so I guess I don't mind.



The whole point of shaky cam is that you can't see what's going on and your brain fills in the blank. If you up the frame rate you will have to shake the camera even harder :p The problem with 24fps is no smooth panning. Variable frame rate can help with that or a solution that psvr uses. Double the frame rate for lateral camera movement. Modern digital cinema projectors should be able to do this, same way tvs can add smooth motion. The trick is to do it selectively. Only apply it to lateral movement of the background while leaving any other movement untouched. Or just deal with it :)



I recall a movie releasing some time ago, I think it was the The Hobbit, where they did a limited 4K 48fps showing. People said it made the CGI look awkward and fake, which it obviously is, but it took from the experience. I imagine the type of content matters.



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