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December NPD 2018 thread

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Miyamotoo said:
https://twitter.com/MatPiscatella/status/1087466578659012609/photo/1

daaang the switch had more game releases this year than the xbox one, accoarding to that chart.



Number of days to reach 50M from 40M : 198 days
Number of days to reach 60M from 50M : 187 days
Number of days to reach 70M from 60M : 175 days
Number of days to reach 80M from 70M : 227 days

Necro-bump this 2020: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=229249

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Soundwave said:

I believe 1770k for Switch would be the best December of this generation (PS4/XB1 included) so that's good.

That number likely is not what Nintendo needed to get to that 20 mill target though, you likely needed sales in the 2.2-2.5 mill range to keep that target in play.

Switch is a more traditional type of platform in its sales curve (more like the PS4 actually) and I think Nintendo is going to have to just embrace that and make sure they are selling more throughout the year, not just leaning so heavily on holiday sales.

PS4 and XB1 were somewhat weak this December. 

Pretty much agree with you, and yes this is the best December for one device this generation. Also Switch takes the whole year just like that in USA.

Last edited by Acevil - on 22 January 2019

 

PS4 ~800k
XBO ~920k
NSW ~1770k

Hmm..... Switch just barely beat out the total of the other two combinded.



Number of days to reach 50M from 40M : 198 days
Number of days to reach 60M from 50M : 187 days
Number of days to reach 70M from 60M : 175 days
Number of days to reach 80M from 70M : 227 days

Necro-bump this 2020: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=229249

It's a shame that wild rumors inflating everyone's expectations kinda rained on Switch's parade when it did achieve the best single month performance of any console this gen.



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So it seems having actual Black Friday deals does affect December sales and it isn't some hard rule that sales double in December for Nintendo.



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TruckOSaurus said:
It's a shame that wild rumors inflating everyone's expectations kinda rained on Switch's parade when it did achieve the best single month performance of any console this gen.

I told people in that infamous PR from Nintendo back in November to not trust blindly insiders predictions like Benji, because they are just..., that, and they can be wrong, as it ended happening in December. If Nintendo says something and it is proved wrong afterwards, choosing to believe Nintendo numbers is always still a better choice.

And yes, Switch did fantastic, 1'7-1'8M in December, after such November is a great result. We should look more what Switch did Nov+Dec combined than just December. That shows more and better perspective of Switch success.



colafitte said:
TruckOSaurus said:
It's a shame that wild rumors inflating everyone's expectations kinda rained on Switch's parade when it did achieve the best single month performance of any console this gen.

I told people in that infamous PR from Nintendo back in November to not trust blindly insiders predictions like Benji, because they are just..., that, and they can be wrong, as it ended happening in December. If Nintendo says something and it is proved wrong afterwards, choosing to believe Nintendo numbers is always still a better choice.

And yes, Switch did fantastic, 1'7-1'8M in December, after such November is a great result. We should look more what Switch did Nov+Dec combined than just December. That shows more and better perspective of Switch success.

Well said, totally agree!! 



Miyamotoo said:
Despite all 3 sold little less than expected, PS4 and XB1 are in their 5. year on market so they done OK numbers,
Switch just had best December of hole generation, had best year of 3 and sold more than PS4+XB1 combined in December, so 1.8m is still very good despite didnt sold 2m+ like most people expected.

360 did 1.4M in 2012, it's 7th year, and PS3 had 900k in December 2011 despite also being 5 years old, and even the Wii did about that despite it's sales having crashed down. I'm pretty sure the PS2 did better in 2005 despite being 6 years old by then.

While the platforms are aging, blaming that performance solely on age is just wrong.

However, considering how Black Friday got more and more important, the market is slowly shifting away from December sales. I think for the entire picture we would need to add both November & December figures and compare those with the other years, as buyers who bought in December in the past now buy a BF deal instead.



BlackBeauty said:
PortisheadBiscuit said:
So did Pokemon technically push more hardware than Smash? Or did the cyber Monday being counted for Nov instead of Dec screw things up?

How could Pokemon push more hardware when it sold more in December?

If you’re talking YOY increases that only because last November there were no Black Friday deals for the switch. 

 

Smash is a juggernaut. Let’s Go is a wet paper towel. 

And yet despite your personal feelings, Let’s Go did fine for what it was.

Its not Smash, but it complemented Smash for what was a great Nov-Dec for Nintendo.



Bofferbrauer2 said:
Miyamotoo said:
Despite all 3 sold little less than expected, PS4 and XB1 are in their 5. year on market so they done OK numbers,
Switch just had best December of hole generation, had best year of 3 and sold more than PS4+XB1 combined in December, so 1.8m is still very good despite didnt sold 2m+ like most people expected.

360 did 1.4M in 2012, it's 7th year, and PS3 had 900k in December 2011 despite also being 5 years old, and even the Wii did about that despite it's sales having crashed down. I'm pretty sure the PS2 did better in 2005 despite being 6 years old by then.

While the platforms are aging, blaming that performance solely on age is just wrong.

However, considering how Black Friday got more and more important, the market is slowly shifting away from December sales. I think for the entire picture we would need to add both November & December figures and compare those with the other years, as buyers who bought in December in the past now buy a BF deal instead.

Not sure, but one point to argue about if Cyber Monday week was counted against Nov or Dec in 2011. In this year, Cyber Monday week was counted as part of November which could eventually reduce December numbers. I believe this is the first time where we have Cyber Monday week reported as part of November where it was always counted as part of December in previous NPD reports.