What Goalpost? I'm not playing the part of someone if you want to bounce a projected racism comment against, you can find someone else for that. I wasn't changing the goal from either post above I was simply pointing out that the situation can be shown from both sides of the exact same scenario, one show starting completely white the other completely black and no way of looking at Joey really as anything other than White with a localization accent when he wants to ask someone "how you doing?" , the entire cast and extended cast of Bel Air are African American the highest number of episodes a white cast member is in ranks at 8 eps for Uncle Phils Partner in Law, 8 from 148 or 5% of the episodes. I really don't think you'll find a recent series which doesn't buckle and include at least a touch of diversity. There's nothing wrong with a show about a African American family all of who's family is that ethnicity and all of the friends and relatives are the same also, that's my point.

As for the show being produced for black familys? Will Smith and Fresh Prince (at least in Europe) were watched, listened to and enjoyed by everyone here... which at least in the 90s in Ireland were absolutely majority white. Also you suggest there wasn't a show featuring a black family on TV the Cosby Show was still running for another 2 years after Fresh Prince debuted so not sure where that comes from either.

as for - "but we're not really living in a mentally segregated society anymore, at least not to the same capacity we used to. " in some area's the segregation has either become worse or has gone from surface level to deep seeded racism. That was my point, showing a rainbow of diversity on a TV show doesn't mean that cultures just mix like that in real life, even here in smaller towns groups of people of certain nationalities moved here during the 90s still do not venture outside their culture generally and visa versa.

Sorry Cgi I went back and removed the in reply pics but one of my posts still obviously has several pictures and a video in it. Will try to keep in mind in future!

I'm generally against all forms of washing if the idea is simply to show off your impressive laundry, and not much else.

I don't understand why you're automatically assuming that I'm trying to race-bait you or call you a racist. I haven't even implied that thus far. When I replied to you and pointed out you're only talking about white families, I only did so because I assumed you knew that there actually are a lot of sitcoms nowadays featuring a predominantly one-ethnicity cast, which would refute your argument about diversity. Not because I was trying to paint you as a racist or someone who wanted white-exclusive programming. 

When I said that you were "shifting goal posts", I said it because you changed the subject from how it's "positive racism" or "discrimination" to look for specific races in order to have a diverse cast, to talking about how it makes sense to have shows which are specifically one ethnicity. These are not really the same thing being argued here. They are similar, and you can lump them in, but while I did argue against the latter in my original reply, most of what I was responding to originally was the first idea, not the second one. 

I either worded my argument incredibly poorly, or you are being far too literal. Personally, I think it's a bit of both. When I say that Fresh Prince of Bel-Air was made because there was a niche that needed to be filled, I don't mean there was absolutely no black shows on television, although maybe it sounded that way. I mean that said niche needed to be represented more, and obviously it was a huge success in that regard. It should be especially obvious that this isn't what I meant, since I literally used a Cosby project as an example for a later argument in the reply you're quoting. In fact I almost switched out Fresh Prince for the Bill Cosby show. I also expected to get a reply about how "everyone loved Fresh Prince", because I knew that my wording made it sound like a minority-exclusive club but ehh ... I thought maybe you would reply sooner than you did, so I didn't edit it further and it was late so I didn't wait long. Yes, everyone loved Fresh Prince, but I think when you look at a television landscape that was as dominated by sitcoms as it was back then ... a big part of success was specific unique aspects. I don't think it was just race, I think it was the different charisma and cultures specific to that sort of community that added flair to the show. By the way now that I've cleared up this stuff, you really should be agreeing with it rather than disagreeing, because you're the one advocating for shows with one ethnicity, not me. So if you don't think that these shows get added value through representation ... than you'd be shooting yourself in the foot. 

And I agree with that. But I think a lot of these shows already tackle that, albeit mildly and usually not as a main theme. I also think that Television Dramas have taken a lot of the serious topics away from the sitcoms. Also, and I say this fully acknowledging that this is something I'm not sure about but seems to be stated by experts in the Television world quite a bit, but overall sitcoms are not as prominent as they used to be. Dramas are going over the ratings. And remember I already stated why you usually don't see sitcoms that are about very specific communities - they are about average people. And while average people usually don't have as many ethnically diverse friends as on a sitcom, that's usually more to do with probabilities and less to do with racism or communities. So, a little bit of artistic license is given and a diverse cast is made to appeal superficially to many demographics. Otherwise, you can look up shows that have one ethnicity, I'm sure there's a lot of them. 

Ah... I understand what you were getting at now with the shifting part, but.... I wasn't though, the "reverse racism" works both ways, it isn't just when a different ethnicity to Caucasian is added to an all Caucasian cast but also if you have a cast with a large number of say African Americans like in "That's so Raven" then if the final spot in the cast for the friend was yet to be cast while the rest of the cast was in place then a African American girl would have had a far lesser chance at the role when the series producer would look to see that there was 0 diversity in the main cast, again by the reboot of that series last year more of the original cast doesn't return in key roles so that the balance is now 50%, I still think there is absolutely nothing wrong with a show featuring a group of friends which has zero diversity in it because that is the way a lot of if not the majority of friend groups form in a lot of regions. For me racism doesn't stop being racism when it's whites losing a role because of their colour or when it's a African American losing the role, it's a role lost due to the colour of the skin and nothing else.

And the last bit I left in just makes me feel a little sad about today's media, you're correct in that board room puts shows together and even movies like star wars where we have disabled Asian roles injected into Rogue one in a very calculated and blunt way to try to make the films appeal (failingly) to those audiences , it's just that point where a show has introduced you to 90% of the cast and it's all Caucasian... oh, there's a knock on the door, "hey hey guys, it's me Jerome, wassup my homies" I can't help but cringe a little and think there is a reason that character is present and it's a cold, calculated reason which had nothing to do with the actors talent nor their actual part in the main story arc's or plots (say.... it's animated but Cleveland Brown from Family, that role).

This isn't a failing on your argument for why it happens btw but a failing on the boardroom of directors choice when a show is pebble dashed with diversity just to try to appeal to everyone.... Bel Air comes to mind again... zippo diversity, appealed to everyone regardless of that if not like the example I gave the lack of diversity in the main cast allowed people who are as white as casper like myself to have my eyes opened to things like racism suffered by African American youth in a 6pm show for teens. I know we have some of those issues handled in drama shows now and more late night shows, but chances of someone 9-13 being awake still at 9pm to watch those shows is fairly slim in comparison to my youth getting Fresh Prince.

Just yeah the TL:DR of my feelings is a persons skin colour should never really be a factor of if they get a role or not, just what makes sense to the show should trump getting that diversity cast in place.

First I want to see an all white movie about African mythology.

Stick to the source material. I mean imaginge if suddenly a William Wallace film came out and he was Chinese, or they made Peter pan black. James Bond is White and British, Alladin is Asian, Blade is black etc

Hm, after reading the comments in this thread. I've changed my opinion, I don't think it should really matter unless it's some historical accuracy type of thing.

All gamers know that reskinning old assets in order to make them appear as something new is lame.

Follow the source material.

And I'm just tired of the wave of the last couple of years that all is representation, need to shoehorn it, and etc.

In Brazil on the last couple of years almost all production needs to portray a affirmative gay character and story have a lot of focus on him and minorities. Plus all news in the country for the last 6 months have been about "feminicide" (we have about 65000 kills per year in the country, about 5000 are women and 200 are know LGBT people... and all news and progressives want to make it seem like there is an epidemic of female and gay homicides and hate against them, when in fact there is just epidemic killing of all sort of people).