Well if God is all knowing, wouldn't they know all the possible outcomes and how to plan ahead of each branch? They're also everlasting and the only one, so they've got lots of time on their hands.

Does time work the same for God since they live forever? If it's more like one really long day, as long as the plan succeeds at the end, wouldn't that mean it was all good? Without having days, minutes, seconds, how to you quantify "in between"?

I get how it works, that's why my point worked. Religion is about using the 'biblical method' let's call it, that points to God and the possibility of eternal life in heaven. Some use those tools, find they work, and venture forth hoping to achieve these things. While some proclaim to have found God while living, nobody completely finds out about life after death until it's too late to document and prove.

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Science still get's things wrong, makes mistakes, creates things that get turned into weapons that could kill us all in a flash. Is that better or worse than before? I'd say it's worth the risks of the negatives that have come with it, not so much different than religion. Progress isn't perfect.

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God is all knowing but also eternal. Does time work the same for God? Is there a beginning, middle, and end? Is it all one big long day for God? If they truly have a plan, if the plan eventually succeeds, does that mean it was all good to them? Could it have been done better? You'd think not if God knows everything.

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Having a life horrible enough to want to end it does not necessarily mean you have mental issues. It's possible they could have mental issues though, but again, you don't know that until after the fact. God doesn't want people offing themselves either though. Seems like you agree with them on that then.

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My evidence would be the Bible. Not worth playing the prove it game, because there's many things science thought it could prove, yet hasn't. Now the scientists would probably say they simply need more time. Well to be fair then, just give the worshipers more time as well.

Would things have definitely worked out better if the P.M. did things differently? You can assume/guess they might have, but nobody can know for certain.

From the human perspective it's hard not to see the logic behind this. Religion itself isn't 100% logic though. That's why faith is used.

I can't help but look at a similar non God scenario. If the amazing doctor who tried to save as many as possible, but lost a couple, had the ability to work more, but chose not to, are they still worthy of praise? I'd have to say no based on this. How could you allow more people to die when you could have possibly saved them by working more? Free will and choice, that's why. Is working more, as long as you're capable and not compromised a bad thing? Is the doctor actually a terrible horrible careless being?

Why doesn't everyone work to their absolute useful limit? Why don't more people step up and do something more beneficial to the human race? Some could, maybe many, yet don't. It's their choice, and nobody forces them to in a free society, because that would be wrong, apparently...Where was God?

I think too many read/hear about GOD and get sucked into the marketing, because it's good. Others see an old fat rich CEO that's just after your money. That's not to say the product isn't still great, but don't believe it's going to completely change your life and free you from negativity entirely.

What if free will to God is like freedom to America? There are rules, and for good reason, which means less than 100% freedom. That doesn't mean you aren't free to do as you like for the most part. It also doesn't mean others won't try and nudge you in a certain direction. Would you rather that everyone be 100% free to do as they please? Maybe there should be so many rules that it feels more like a prison sentence?

What would the perfect universe be like if it could be made?

There isn't much evidence that Jesus had any choice about being executed. He was in hiding and was and someone who told the authorities where he was. That the Romans even cared enough to do that indicates that he wasn't just a religious guy preaching Peace and Love to all.

What there is evidence for is that Christianity was chosen to brought to the Roman Empire because it had useful features such as fixing ongoing quarrels over which of the many Roman god was best, and in particular featured a human who was a God on earth. It is unclear why an Emperor would like that in particular. There is also good evidence that the bulk of Jesus' life was constructed at the Council of Nicaea, where they edited together the New Testament. How impartial that was is up to debate, but at least the put together a decent selection of stories.

In terms of how self-consistent the religion is, most people kind-of give up. This is where science drops the issue - usually after a couple of failed scientific experiments you decide that maybe there is a fundamental flaw and look for something else. In Christianity, the most glaring flaw is "There is one God", and "Jesus is also God". And the Holy Spirit is God. There was also a huge problem in that Genesis incorrectly describes the solar system, which is not good for a book written by God through his power.

In terms of "Is there a God?", it seems unlikely. You either have an extremely rule-based Universe that manifests due to mathematics, or you can have God appear out of nothing and create that Universe. That the God or the Universe exist at all merely implies that zero isn't a valid solution to a Physics equation somewhere. So God doesn't even answer any interesting philosophical questions.

In terms of a "Personal or Guiding God", for some reason that no-one can explain to me, God decides not to have a Twitter account, despite how the Bible says that you can easily talk directly by praying. That he can't be "put to the test" only leads to the conclusion that he can have no measurable impact on the Universe.

So sadly, Jesus didn't really exist as described, and it seems unlikely that he made a conscious decision to be killed.

The "Biblical method" is based upon the claims found in the Bible and not evidence... The Bible then uses the power of fear and ignorance to conform people to it's indoctrination.

Those who "claim" they have "found God" have absolutely zero repeatable tests to verify their claims, ergo their claims can be discarded with equally as much evidence.

God can actually resolve this debate entirely, right now, permanently, if he existed.

It's actually a good thing that science gets things wrong, makes mistakes. That is the entire point of the scientific method.
It doesn't assert anything as 100% factual, ever. It is capable of changing it's views.

All things we enjoy in the modern era, advanced medicines, communications, efficient transport, even the yields we get from crops... Is all thanks to the scientific method.

The Scientific method has even allowed us to explore the stars.

What has religion done? Flown planes into buildings? Abused children? Attack the LGBTQI community endlessly? Recruited child soldiers?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_cases
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_Resistance_Army

For God to be "all knowing and eternal", God needs to actually exist... And for the existence to be proven, you need a thing called evidence.

Fact of the matter is there are thousands of Christian denominations... If the Christians cannot even agree on all the rubbish found in the Bible, then why should anyone else take it seriously?

Not to mention all through history there have been thousands of religions/gods... And they all claim the same old bullshit that is found in the Bible, that their God is the only God, that their God is the true God...

I mean, Muslims, Jewish and Christians technically worship the same "god". - The Abrahamic God, how does that make you feel knowing you are painted with the same brush as those religious sects? How do you know that your position is the correct one and theirs the incorrect one?

If you want to end your life, you have a mental illness or are suffering from such intense physical pain that Euthanasia is an option, either way, it's brought on by an illness.
I work in multiple rescue agencies, I've seen it all. I am trained in dealing with Mental health.

The Bible is the claim, not evidence.

As for things in science not being proven... Well. Until it is proven, those claims can be discarded, same goes for religion, science isn't rigid, it doesn't assert ANYTHING as fact until it has the evidence to support it's theory.

Worshippers have been given 6,000+ years to prove their religion and God exists and have failed to do so, how much time do you want?

Where do we draw the line?

How do you know the flying spaghetti monster isn't real? The tooth fairy even?

Yes the P.M could have done a better job, by not sending thoughts and prayers and actually doing the job he is employed to do... That is support the country by direct means, not touchy-feely feel-good religious propaganda.

I'ts a myth, and not really that impressive if you really think about it. It was God sacrificing himself to himself, because of rules set by himself. For an all-powerful being, it wasn't much more than a minor inconvenience anyways.

Lol religion. An organised system for shared delusions.

Faith is not a path we use to get tot he truth in any other area of life.  There is no reason to ignore the methods we use to come to sound conclusions in other areas of life when it comes to religion.  

As for the doctor, he is subject to human limitations.  He has a right to and a need for personal satisfaction outside his work, he has to deal with physical and mental exhaustion, he has responsibilities outside work, etc.  Knowing what we do about humans, it would be unreasonable to expect him to work to his absolute maximum capacity.

God, assuming the typical definition, on the other hand is not subject to any such limitations, and being omnipotent, can cure all of the patients with no ill effects to himself, and can do so with 100% reliability.  

Simply put, if you could snap your finger and eliminate all childhood cancer, would you?  I'm assuming yes.  So, is god incapable of eliminating all childhood cancer, or is he capable of doing so, but chooses not to?  Those are the only possibilities.  

I also feel a bit sad for all those people that live in constant fear of a god and think it's their duty to try to save others from eternal hellfire,that is some form of twisted suffering for religion.