But we embrace eternal darkness as it is our own and we do not force faith upon ourselves out of fear of the heavenly father and Jesus Christ who had people like him that are more real also suffering for us,let me just respect the countless unnamed heroes and not the  one forced upon me by this ''almighty'' god.

But i will think about you while being my own maker of thoughts and freedom in eternal darkness, and you will puppeteer and be a puppet for god because you have no choice.

Faith by definition is belief without evidence, it's an illogical position.

If there is a God/s... Then I believe he/they is not worthy of worship.

I have been to a roadcrash where I am cutting out a dying father out of the vehicle whilst his screaming child is in the back, wanting nothing but to hold him. - Where was your God then?

I have given my all to protect life, property and the environment for months at a time... (December-January-Februry this season!) while my entire country burned.
Where was your God then?

I have scaled down cliffs on a couple lengths of rope to retrieve mangled bodies from the bottom. - Where was your God then?

Thousands are dying today due to the Coronavirus, an insidious disease upon those who are immune-deficient and/or have respiratory issues... Aka. Society's most vulnerable. - Where is your God now?

If that is the "will" of your God, you can absolutely keep it.

Is this a joke thread?

Because I'm queer and he loves us queers

I could be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure the documentary I watched on the LHC quite a few years back, had a few highly regarded individuals who were part of it, mention while the intention/hope was to find/prove the Higgs boson, there was no guarantee. Obviously there was some level faith there, even after all the math and science, not to mention the money and man hours it took to build it. Otherwise, why build it? Now it did eventually succeed, after years of tinkering, changes, additions, etc, which certainly weren't as "good" as instantly being successful, so was that bad? Does math and science always go to plan, and does it always succeed, flawlessly?

A question that has to be asked, is were those incidents you witnessed God's will/fault, since they are the one and only creator so it's written? Did God give people free will? Is that why the Devil get's to mess with things as well? Is life without hardship whatsoever better/sustainable? Could science prove that?

Let's just assume you have a strong point, and assume God does exist, and that most of what is written about them is true for the most part. Based on that, what about everything good that God has done aside from the negatives? If God is not worth worshiping, then is anything or anyone worth worshiping? Where exactly is the point when people cross the line into specifically worshiping something? How does that apply to the world today? If there are people worshiping stuff, should we make it illegal?

The difference there was that the math provided the necessary evidence to showcase it's "possible" existence... Math doesn't do the same for justifying the existence of any deity.

They did eventually prove the Higgs Boson to exist during testing in 2012.

Of course not. But if the science proved the Higgs Boson didn't exist, then scientists wouldn't have denied the results and continued to assert that it existed.

Does science and math always go to plan? No. No they do not. And Math and Science will change it's stance on something as the evidence proves/disproves something, it's not rigid.

That is the difference between science and faith-based religious concepts.

If God is all-powerful, then he is all-knowing and he is able to put a stop to such horrors... And can make a hypothetical devil disappear in a flash, the fact he doesn't means his empathy can come into question.

For example, if I was to have a Road Crash occur at the front of my home, I am NOT going to stand-by and do nothing, I will be jumping in to lend a hand, because watching people suffer isn't a good thing, it's not good, it's not loving, it's not empathy.

Me jumping in to save someones life isn't removing that other persons free will, it's as simple as that.

What good? A quick read of the Bible which is full of torture, abuse, discrimination, death, war, hate and bigotry proves that the God of the Abrahamic religions is far from being good, kind, loving or fair.

And correct. No one is worth worshiping... Our prime minister for example fucked off during a national crisis while our country was burning... And he only sent "thoughts and prayers". - People died. That is the danger of religion and it's ability to numb peoples responses.

Should worshiping be made illegal? No. I fully support the Australian constitution and it's intrinsic rights to freedom of religion... But also the implied right of freedom from religion... And of course support my right to criticize other peoples belief systems.

Australia is far less religious than the USA thankfully and we are becoming more secular as time goes on.

Honestly, the positives don't matter, if you believe god is omnipotent.  

If we have a limited person, then we credit them for effort.  We recognize that even with the best of intentions and the most earnest efforts, people can not make things perfect.  If a doctor has 100 cancer patients, treats all 100 to the best of his ability, and but loses 5 patients, we would probably find him worthy of praise.  But suppose there were a doctor who could, completely effortlessly, cure cancer, who had 100 patients, and only cured 95.  He could cure the remaining 5 just as effortlessly, and there is absolutely no reason not to.  What would you think of that doctor?

Obviously, that doctor is a metaphor for god, if you believe the bible.  He can eliminate all suffering that is not the result of free will.  He chooses not to. God could have just as easily created a world without microscopic organisms that can infect and kill us.  He chose instead to create one with it.  He could have just as easily created a world where children don't get cancer.  He instead chose to create a world where they do.  He could have just as easily created a world where the elderly don't lose control of their bowels.  Instead he created a world where they do. 

This isn't really anything new, it's an argument that dates back (allegedly) to Epicurus (slightly modified).  If God is capable of preventing any suffering not caused by exercise of free will, but he chooses not to, then he is malicious and unworthy of worship.  Of course, the far more likely scenario is that there simply is no god and that since the world is not created for the benefit of humans, there is no reason to expect that it would be perfectly suited to us.  

Possible. Based on techniques used, created by human minds, to fulfill a need. Something was there, and they made a highly educated guess, and with a little faith, or whatever word you want to use, they moved forward and luckily were successful eventually. Has religion made any progress?

I mentioned this below in the next point you singled out. Not sure if you missed it or not. Hopefully it wasn't in bad, faith. ;)

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I agree about being more flexible in general. Religion doesn't seem to allow for that as much. Depends on the religion, people, and time. Religion isn't near as violent as it once was, but doesn't seem as efficient as science in it's quest for truth. Less efficient doesn't mean bad or wrong though. Also, some are getting the wrong impression about science as well, that it's in a way, 'all knowing' and 'unquestionable', which needs to be addressed before it causes trouble like it has for religion.

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God created what they created though, and now we're here. Why they created things the way they did would be great to know, and would probably help answer many questions, but the fact is the universe operates as it does, and 'bad' things happen because of that. I'm not saying there aren't bad things that happen, but what bad means also isn't exactly scientific. Time itself changes what falls into the good or bad categories. Is God allowed to change the rules on the fly? How would that change the universe and it's laws? Is that why the double slit experiment makes no sense?

I get your point, but what if that person in the one car, has had a life you wouldn't ever wish upon yourself let alone anyone, and is suicidal? What if they crashed their car on purpose? That's quite unlikely, but you can't know for sure what they, or the other person were thinking, and what they want. You may have gotten in the way of their choice, but that's the problem with free will. It doesn't always allow things to work out as someone may have chosen. Did you do the right thing by saving them? God apparently would think you did.

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God created everything, in just 6 days. That itself I think would be hard to argue against, is an unmatchable achievement, if it's all true. Your P.M. did really screw the pooch there. They are human, and much worse, a politician, so it's tough to be surprised though right? I like freedom too, as long as your freedom stays clear of my lawn.

If God planned ahead, all knowing, then it's possible. That's not to say everything they planned will come to be, but lay out enough bread crumbs and it's more likely someone will follow. As long as you've given them free will, and especially if an evil powerful entity also exists, there's no guarantee they'll follow. Stacking the deck doesn't guarantee you win, but it does change the odds. Was the plan to always win and never lose? Is losing always a negative?

You aren't understanding how the scientific method works.

If a mathematical equation points to the possibility of something existing, then scientists will venture forth, put the scientific method to work and find out if that is truly the case.

And that is what occured with the Higgs particle.

They didn't assert with 100% authority that it existed before they discovered it... That is the difference between science and religion.

Religion is still violent.
In the Western World religion is oft-used to attack the LGBTQI community... Westboro church for example constantly attacks the LGBTQI community and even has websites like godhatesfags.com
Religion of love and peace? Hardly.

In Africa the Christian religion was used by extremists such as Kony and the Lords Resistance Army which recruited children and turned them into soldiers and that was just a few years ago.

Over in the Middle East... The Quran which is a book founded on the same Middle-Eastern Abrahamic teachings that defines the Bible and the Jewish Bible (Torah) and is used as justification for extremism, beheadings, murder and general bad behavior still runs rampant.

Is religion as violent as it once was? Well. We aren't exactly burning witches at the stake anymore... But it's not all sunshine, lollipops and rainbows, it's still full of abuse, torture, condemnation, hate and bigotry.

If God is supposedly all-knowing, all-powerful, then in theory would have seen every single possible scenario for all of time.

Thus when God "created" man, he knew how things would play out right up to today, all the good and the bad... And did nothing.

He either did nothing or isn't all-powerful. - And thus still not worthy of worship if he is willing to let even a single child die or suffer.

Why they did something or how they got into that situation where they crashed their car is irrelevant... And not my issue.
My issue is to try and save their life, other people are trained and geared to assist them in those other aspects like mental health issues.

Mental health issues aren't free choice, thus I was not imposing on their freedom.

God created everything? - Prove it. I dare you. Prove it.
Not only are you unable to do so... But if you assert something with zero evidence, then your assertion can be discarded in it's entirety with equally as much evidence.

The evidence is thus... The Earth took much longer to be created than just 6 days... And the evidence supports the idea that the Bibles timeline of how it was created (I.E. Sun after the Earth formed) is incorrect.

The PM fucked up because he let religion get in the way of common sense, religion is dangerous when used by the incompetent and ignorant.