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Shadow1980 said:
Okay. Good. Now drop the MMO elements and make the story mode a proper single-player offline FPS experience with a definite beginning, middle, and end (co-op and RPG elements are fine, but none of that farming shit). Without Activision's grubby little paws on Bungie there's no excuse for Bungie to do any of the bullshit that's forced into AAA games these days by the likes of Acti and the other majors.

I have some doubts that Bungie would even have sided with Activision in the first place if the MMO elements were forced on them. So, this is exactly what they wanted the game to be initially.



 

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This can only be good news.



mjk45 said:
LurkerJ said:

It's easy to blame Activision for the bad reception TWO, not one, Bungie games have received. It's not like their union was forced upon Bungie.

I want to know just how big Destiny of an IP is at the moment, with the game being given for free just months ago and the rise of Fortnite-like games, it doesn't look like the IP is standing on solid grounds.

It's is one likely scenario behind Activision deciding to sell the IP to bungie , the other  scenario being when they came up with the ten year plan there may have been a clause where it came back to Bungie at the end of the ten year contract if there wasn't a renewal of contract , this would tie in with activision selling now ,  not wanting to renew contract due to gaming climate and  Destiny had made them good money but  was now past its peak so rather than wait for the  IP to revert to Bungie make an early sale.

Activision hasnt sold anything cause the IP was never theirs. The IP always belonged to Bungie. Activison only ever had publishing rights. Now they dont.

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/bungie-signs-10-year-activision-deal



twintail said:
mjk45 said:

It's is one likely scenario behind Activision deciding to sell the IP to bungie , the other  scenario being when they came up with the ten year plan there may have been a clause where it came back to Bungie at the end of the ten year contract if there wasn't a renewal of contract , this would tie in with activision selling now ,  not wanting to renew contract due to gaming climate and  Destiny had made them good money but  was now past its peak so rather than wait for the  IP to revert to Bungie make an early sale.

Activision hasnt sold anything cause the IP was never theirs. The IP always belonged to Bungie. Activison only ever had publishing rights. Now they dont.

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/bungie-signs-10-year-activision-deal

Oh well its not the first time I've made an idiot of myself, The headline of Bungie splits with Activision Keeps Destiny IP made me assume that that The IP rights were  part of the settlement . I'm not going to escape by claiming it was just a scenario am I ?

Still if I redacted IP and replaced it with publishing rights would that make sense ?.

Last edited by mjk45 - on 10 January 2019

Interesting. Software output has become very slow from the Activision side of Activision-Blizzard over the last couple years.

2017
Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy
Destiny 2
Call of Duty: WWII

2018
Spyro Reignited Trilogy
Destiny 2: Forsaken
Call of Duty: Black Ops IIII

The last two years have followed a three pillar approach, Crash/Spyro remakes, COD & Destiny. I wonder what they will do to fill the void left by Destiny. I know they are publishing Sekiro but I dont see that being nearly as successful as Destiny, maybe they will start publishing more medium sized games again instead of focusing on a few mega hits?



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mjk45 said:
LurkerJ said:

It's easy to blame Activision for the bad reception TWO, not one, Bungie games have received. It's not like their union was forced upon Bungie.

I want to know just how big Destiny of an IP is at the moment, with the game being given for free just months ago and the rise of Fortnite-like games, it doesn't look like the IP is standing on solid grounds.

It's is one likely scenario behind Activision deciding to sell the IP to bungie , the other  scenario being when they came up with the ten year plan there may have been a clause where it came back to Bungie at the end of the ten year contract if there wasn't a renewal of contract , this would tie in with activision selling now ,  not wanting to renew contract due to gaming climate and  Destiny had made them good money but  was now past its peak so rather than wait for the  IP to revert to Bungie make an early sale.

Disregard this I wrongly assumed from the heading that Activision owned the Destiny IP and it was part of the settlement.



Ka-pi96 said:
dx11332sega said:

Microsoft pockets are very deep and provide freedom I hope bungie makes an exclusive deal with them activision pockets are 2nd behind microsoft me thinks I don't know any other that comes close to that?

Not a chance of that ever happening.

They abandoned the Halo IP in order to get away from MS, they certainly ain't gonna go back!

We see how devs are getting on under Sony. Maybe they'll try them for a game or two and develop for pc/ps4. Kojima seems happy enough in that same situation.

Online FPS is one area sony could do with ticking a box. Destiny in 2014 moved a both load of ps4 but it was also on xbox. Imagine what a launch exclusive on ps5 would do. 



zorg1000 said:
Interesting. Software output has become very slow from the Activision side of Activision-Blizzard over the last couple years.

2017
Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy
Destiny 2
Call of Duty: WWII

2018
Spyro Reignited Trilogy
Destiny 2: Forsaken
Call of Duty: Black Ops IIII

The last two years have followed a three pillar approach, Crash/Spyro remakes, COD & Destiny. I wonder what they will do to fill the void left by Destiny. I know they are publishing Sekiro but I dont see that being nearly as successful as Destiny, maybe they will start publishing more medium sized games again instead of focusing on a few mega hits?

I guess they don't really care. Looks like COD is enough for them while it is still the best selling game every year. Crash and Spyro also were major hits so probably they don't really have to worry about their software output.



 

mjk45 said:
twintail said:

Activision hasnt sold anything cause the IP was never theirs. The IP always belonged to Bungie. Activison only ever had publishing rights. Now they dont.

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/bungie-signs-10-year-activision-deal

Oh well its not the first time I've made an idiot of myself, The headline of Bungie splits with Activision Keeps Destiny IP made me assume that that The IP rights were  part of the settlement . I'm not going to escape by claiming it was just a scenario am I ?

Still if I redacted IP and replaced it with publishing rights would that make sense ?.

No no, the news makes it seem like Bungie got the IP rights back, so its not your fault per se. I just saw your comment and thought to reply to it with the info. Sure, I think publishing rights makes more sense.



derpysquirtle64 said:
Shadow1980 said:
Okay. Good. Now drop the MMO elements and make the story mode a proper single-player offline FPS experience with a definite beginning, middle, and end (co-op and RPG elements are fine, but none of that farming shit). Without Activision's grubby little paws on Bungie there's no excuse for Bungie to do any of the bullshit that's forced into AAA games these days by the likes of Acti and the other majors.

I have some doubts that Bungie would even have sided with Activision in the first place if the MMO elements were forced on them. So, this is exactly what they wanted the game to be initially.

Exactly. Where is the preconceived notion that Bungie didn't make that they originally set out to make coming from? Not mention, those MMO elements are hardly the game's biggest problem. 

Last edited by LurkerJ - on 10 January 2019