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Shiken said:
WhatATimeToBeAlive said:

RDR2 was also review bombed. And when you take into account what happened after Jim Sterling's BotW review, it's safe to say that Nintedo fans are more fanatical. RDR2 was also review bombed by PC fans and PS4 and Xbox fans who bombed the competing console version.

And RDR2 is the highest rated current generation game on Metacritic. That statement is a fact. If you want to be specific you can add "RDR2 Xbox One version".

And since this seems so hard to accept, lets then add BotW WiiU score (96) to the mix since BotW was released at the same time on WiiU and Switch. 

Numbers are in, I did the math myself.

 

RDR2- 96.79

BotW- 96.71

 

So there you have it, RDR2 is a whopping 0.09 higher than BotW on metacritic.  This is WiiU and Switch scores combined for BotW as well as RDR2 scores for PS4 and X1 combined.  If you are really clinging to that 0.09, I will let you have it.  Numbers do not lie.  HOWEVER...

 

Seeing how you decided to go behind the mods back and change your thread title back to stating that RDR2 is the highest current gen game period, I will say this.

 

While RDR2 has a whooping 0.09 higher score on metacritic, the reader reviews say otherwise.  This makes BotW much better received overall in terms of quality than RDR2 when it comes to the general public.  I mean you said yourself they both got review bombed, so it seems fair to compare them in this case.  Also as I stated before, Zelda is a holder of the GotY title while RDR2 is not.  Also over at gamerankings, Zelda is also more acclaimed than RDR2 there as well.  On open critic, RDR2 is more acclaimed.

 

So the way I see it...

 

RDR2 has Metacritic CRITIC advantage (by 0.09) and Open Critic advantage.

 

BotW has Metacritic USER advantage (by more than 5), won more awards, and has gamerankings advantage.

 

This mean that by what you changed your title back too even after a mod changed it for you once, Zelda BotW is this generation's highest rated and decorated game overall.  Anything more you say is basically hinging on 0.09 and at this point, it is not worth my time anymore.

 

RDR2 highest critcal game on MC this gen by 0.09 as per your OP.

 

Zelda BotW is the highest rated and acclaimed game of this gen overall as per the title you insist on keeping around to bait people.

 

Have a nice day!

0.08 lol

Also what was the title the admin changed it to? I assumed it was the current one? but guessing why what you wrote, it was something else and he changed it.



 

 

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Cobretti2 said:
Shiken said:

Numbers are in, I did the math myself.

 

RDR2- 96.79

BotW- 96.71

 

So there you have it, RDR2 is a whopping 0.09 higher than BotW on metacritic.  This is WiiU and Switch scores combined for BotW as well as RDR2 scores for PS4 and X1 combined.  If you are really clinging to that 0.09, I will let you have it.  Numbers do not lie.  HOWEVER...

 

Seeing how you decided to go behind the mods back and change your thread title back to stating that RDR2 is the highest current gen game period, I will say this.

 

While RDR2 has a whooping 0.09 higher score on metacritic, the reader reviews say otherwise.  This makes BotW much better received overall in terms of quality than RDR2 when it comes to the general public.  I mean you said yourself they both got review bombed, so it seems fair to compare them in this case.  Also as I stated before, Zelda is a holder of the GotY title while RDR2 is not.  Also over at gamerankings, Zelda is also more acclaimed than RDR2 there as well.  On open critic, RDR2 is more acclaimed.

 

So the way I see it...

 

RDR2 has Metacritic CRITIC advantage (by 0.09) and Open Critic advantage.

 

BotW has Metacritic USER advantage (by more than 5), won more awards, and has gamerankings advantage.

 

This mean that by what you changed your title back too even after a mod changed it for you once, Zelda BotW is this generation's highest rated and decorated game overall.  Anything more you say is basically hinging on 0.09 and at this point, it is not worth my time anymore.

 

RDR2 highest critcal game on MC this gen by 0.09 as per your OP.

 

Zelda BotW is the highest rated and acclaimed game of this gen overall as per the title you insist on keeping around to bait people.

 

Have a nice day!

0.08 lol

Also what was the title the admin changed it to? I assumed it was the current one? but guessing why what you wrote, it was something else and he changed it.

Fixed lol

 

He was refering to the X1 SKU of RDR2 (which only had 33 reviews), as the PS4 version is decimals lower than BotW on MC.  He left that part out in his OP and after that was revealed, a mod changed to title to specify the X1 SKU on MC only.  It appears he changed it back to the same baity title where it just says RDR2 is the highest current gen game period (which is false).

 

He purposely went over the mods to drag this out.  This entire discussion has been petty and pointless from the start, but I have a feeling he knew this was going to happen.  In any case, I have said my piece and corrected him while bringing up several points to counter his thread title.  I am done with it, because after doing the math and seeing his entire argument is hinged 0.08 difference, the debate is worth even less of my time than I originally had figured.



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OTBWY said:



These earlier games surpass it. Other games after it will too.

Wait. Doesn't this mean BotW is the highest-rated current generation game? Not by much, though.



Medisti said:
OTBWY said:



These earlier games surpass it. Other games after it will too.

Wait. Doesn't this mean BotW is the highest-rated current generation game? Not by much, though.

It's Gamerankings which has a lot less reviews than Metacritic but yes, if you prefer the way that site aggregates scores then BOTW is the GOTG so far. 



AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Medisti said:

Wait. Doesn't this mean BotW is the highest-rated current generation game? Not by much, though.

It's Gamerankings which has a lot less reviews than Metacritic but yes, if you prefer the way that site aggregates scores then BOTW is the GOTG so far. 

Still higher than XB1 version with 33 reviews on Metacritic. 

Metacritic

1. Zelda BOTW 97 = 109 reviews

2. RDR 2 97 = 97 reviews

3. SMO 97 = 113 reviews

Gameranking 

1. SMO 97.42 = 58 reviews

2. Zelda BOTW 97.33 = 63 reviews

3. RDR 2 96.45 = 49 reviews

Opencritic

1. SMO 97 = 104 reviews

2. RDR 2 97 = 114 reviews

3. Zelda BOTW 96 = 113 reviews

 

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LGBTDBZBBQ said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

It's Gamerankings which has a lot less reviews than Metacritic but yes, if you prefer the way that site aggregates scores then BOTW is the GOTG so far. 

Still higher than XB1 version with 33 reviews on Metacritic. 

I'm just stating it as it is. GameRankings has less reviews than Metacritic overall on average. So if you prefer their way of aggregating scores, than BOTW is indeed the GOTG. 



Shiken said:
WhatATimeToBeAlive said:

RDR2 was also review bombed. And when you take into account what happened after Jim Sterling's BotW review, it's safe to say that Nintedo fans are more fanatical. RDR2 was also review bombed by PC fans and PS4 and Xbox fans who bombed the competing console version.

And RDR2 is the highest rated current generation game on Metacritic. That statement is a fact. If you want to be specific you can add "RDR2 Xbox One version".

And since this seems so hard to accept, lets then add BotW WiiU score (96) to the mix since BotW was released at the same time on WiiU and Switch. 

Numbers are in, I did the math myself.

 

RDR2- 96.79

BotW- 96.71

 

So there you have it, RDR2 is a whopping 0.09 higher than BotW on metacritic.  This is WiiU and Switch scores combined for BotW as well as RDR2 scores for PS4 and X1 combined.  If you are really clinging to that 0.08, I will let you have it.  Numbers do not lie.  HOWEVER...

 

Seeing how you decided to go behind the mods back and change your thread title back to stating that RDR2 is the highest current gen game period, I will say this.

 

While RDR2 has a whooping 0.08 higher score on metacritic, the reader reviews say otherwise.  This makes BotW much better received overall in terms of quality than RDR2 when it comes to the general public.  I mean you said yourself they both got review bombed, so it seems fair to compare them in this case.  Also as I stated before, Zelda is a holder of the GotY title while RDR2 is not.  Also over at gamerankings, Zelda is also more acclaimed than RDR2 there as well.  On open critic, RDR2 is more acclaimed.

 

So the way I see it...

 

RDR2 has Metacritic CRITIC advantage (by 0.08) and Open Critic advantage.

 

BotW has Metacritic USER advantage (by more than 5), won more awards, and has gamerankings advantage.

 

This mean that by what you changed your title back too even after a mod changed it for you once, Zelda BotW is this generation's highest rated and decorated game overall.  Anything more you say is basically hinging on 0.08 and at this point, it is not worth my time anymore.

 

RDR2 highest critcal game on MC this gen by 0.08 as per your OP.

 

Zelda BotW is the highest rated and acclaimed game of this gen overall as per the title you insist on keeping around to bait people.

 

Have a nice day!

Your Metacritic calculation for RDR2 is clearly wrong since PS4 and Xbox One are both above 97, so they can't be below 97 when combined. And I don't even know how you could count, because the decimals aren't visible in Metacritic.

I most certainly haven't changed the thread title and the mods can confirm that. I saw the Mod's post where he said he was going to change the title, but noticed that the title was still the same.

The reson why I didn't include "Metacritic" in the title was because I wanted the whole title to be visible on the main page, but now I realise that I should have. But I mentioned that I was talking about Metacritic in my first sentence. And things outside of Metacritic  (GOTY, ...) are not even anything I was talking about in my OP.

I don't value Metacritic user score at all, and I don't think that any reasonable person would either, since it depends on how many fanboys each game "achieves" to attract. So that's also one reason why I don't agree with your conclusion about the overall highest rated game.

But the purpose of this thread was to talk about what current generation games can surpass RDR2 on Metacritic and claim the top spot on the list. Nice that after all these posts you have agreed that that's how things are in regards to RDR2. I used RDR2 as a reference, since it's the game that's  at the top of the list, aka: the game you have to beat.

Yeah, those (RDR2) calculations??  



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At this point, I think this thread has run its course. The criteria was problematic from the start, and despite several title changes, it doesn't appear like there will be any resolution.

What you can do, OP, is perhaps create a topic that allows for more leeway on the basis of the grading system. I know one 97 on Metacritic can be lower than another (based on the places), but when you have multiple games that have the same score, and one is omitted, it is bound to cause some friction. Consider changing it up.