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What could possibly exceed the janky gunplay and straight jacket mission design of RDR2, well GTA6 of course. That's the only correct answer. R* just needs to make a story of the poor white male disadvantaged in life by all the sjw's simply trying to make Los Santos great again.



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Getting a little heated in here, guys. I can edit the thread title more (so things can clear up a little), but let's keep it civil.



                                                                                                                                            

Persona 5 R, if it's a Racing game.

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Evilms said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

It's overrated because the actual player doesn't think it's that great of a game.  Just compare the critic scores to the user scores on Metacritic.

RDR2 (XB1)
Metascore: 97 User score 7.3 (or 73 equivalent) difference: 24 points

RDR2 (PS4)
Metascore: 97 User score: 7.9 (or 79) difference: 18 points

BotW (Switch)
Metascore: 97 User score 8.5 (or 85)  difference: 12 points

Mario Odyssey (Switch)
Metascore: 97 User score: 8.9 (or 89) difference: 8 points


The biggest gap between the user base and the critics is on RDR2.  That makes the game OVERRATED.  It is rated too highly by critics.  Players think the game is decent but nothing special.  Players are saying RDR2 is OVERRATED.

God Of War (PS4) [118 critics]
Metascore: 94 User score: 9.2 (or 92) difference: 2 points

If we follow this logic : God Of War remains unbeatable.

God of War sounds like a good game.  Maybe I should check it out after all.



Shiken said:
Mr.Joker said:

So now User score is important huh

When people review bombed Breath of the Wild Sony fans seemed to think they were.  After the storm cleared and they settled in at 8.5, now all of a sudden they act like they do not.

 

Funny how double standards work.  The bottom line is that in most ways you break it down, RDR2 IS NOT the highest rated current gen game on meta critic.  The OP is highlighting the one and very flawed, instance where it is (when you look at the version that got only 33 reviews instead of the one that got 94).  All people are doing is using hos own cherry picking logic against the OP to show him just how ridiculous his claims are.

 

However considering this kind of reaction was likely what he was after all along, he is probably patting himself on the back.

RDR2 was also review bombed. And when you take into account what happened after Jim Sterling's BotW review, it's safe to say that Nintedo fans are more fanatical. RDR2 was also review bombed by PC fans and PS4 and Xbox fans who bombed the competing console version.

And RDR2 is the highest rated current generation game on Metacritic. That statement is a fact. If you want to be specific you can add "RDR2 Xbox One version".

And since this seems so hard to accept, lets then add BotW WiiU score (96) to the mix since BotW was released at the same time on WiiU and Switch. 



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Both Mario Odyssey and Zelda: BotW are at 97, so RDR2 is tied for best. That being said only a handful of games actually stand a chance to beat them, these being:
- GTA6
-TLoU2
- Mario Odyssey 2
- Zelda: BotW 2
- Death Stranding
- Cyberpunk

- maybe the new Gen Pokemon

- and the dark horse Metroid Prime 4



WhatATimeToBeAlive said:
Shiken said:

When people review bombed Breath of the Wild Sony fans seemed to think they were.  After the storm cleared and they settled in at 8.5, now all of a sudden they act like they do not.

 

Funny how double standards work.  The bottom line is that in most ways you break it down, RDR2 IS NOT the highest rated current gen game on meta critic.  The OP is highlighting the one and very flawed, instance where it is (when you look at the version that got only 33 reviews instead of the one that got 94).  All people are doing is using hos own cherry picking logic against the OP to show him just how ridiculous his claims are.

 

However considering this kind of reaction was likely what he was after all along, he is probably patting himself on the back.

RDR2 was also review bombed. And when you take into account what happened after Jim Sterling's BotW review, it's safe to say that Nintedo fans are more fanatical. RDR2 was also review bombed by PC fans and PS4 and Xbox fans who bombed the competing console version.

And RDR2 is the highest rated current generation game on Metacritic. That statement is a fact. If you want to be specific you can add "RDR2 Xbox One version".

And since this seems so hard to accept, lets then add BotW WiiU score (96) to the mix since BotW was released at the same time on WiiU and Switch. 

Numbers are in, I did the math myself.

 

RDR2- 96.79

BotW- 96.71

 

So there you have it, RDR2 is a whopping 0.09 higher than BotW on metacritic.  This is WiiU and Switch scores combined for BotW as well as RDR2 scores for PS4 and X1 combined.  If you are really clinging to that 0.08, I will let you have it.  Numbers do not lie.  HOWEVER...

 

Seeing how you decided to go behind the mods back and change your thread title back to stating that RDR2 is the highest current gen game period, I will say this.

 

While RDR2 has a whooping 0.08 higher score on metacritic, the reader reviews say otherwise.  This makes BotW much better received overall in terms of quality than RDR2 when it comes to the general public.  I mean you said yourself they both got review bombed, so it seems fair to compare them in this case.  Also as I stated before, Zelda is a holder of the GotY title while RDR2 is not.  Also over at gamerankings, Zelda is also more acclaimed than RDR2 there as well.  On open critic, RDR2 is more acclaimed.

 

So the way I see it...

 

RDR2 has Metacritic CRITIC advantage (by 0.08) and Open Critic advantage.

 

BotW has Metacritic USER advantage (by more than 5), won more awards, and has gamerankings advantage.

 

This mean that by what you changed your title back too even after a mod changed it for you once, Zelda BotW is this generation's highest rated and decorated game overall.  Anything more you say is basically hinging on 0.08 and at this point, it is not worth my time anymore.

 

RDR2 highest critcal game on MC this gen by 0.08 as per your OP.

 

Zelda BotW is the highest rated and acclaimed game of this gen overall as per the title you insist on keeping around to bait people.

 

Have a nice day!

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Shiken said:
WhatATimeToBeAlive said:

RDR2 was also review bombed. And when you take into account what happened after Jim Sterling's BotW review, it's safe to say that Nintedo fans are more fanatical. RDR2 was also review bombed by PC fans and PS4 and Xbox fans who bombed the competing console version.

And RDR2 is the highest rated current generation game on Metacritic. That statement is a fact. If you want to be specific you can add "RDR2 Xbox One version".

And since this seems so hard to accept, lets then add BotW WiiU score (96) to the mix since BotW was released at the same time on WiiU and Switch. 

Numbers are in, I did the math myself.

 

RDR2- 96.79

BotW- 96.71

 

So there you have it, RDR2 is a whopping 0.09 higher than BotW on metacritic.  This is WiiU and Switch scores combined for BotW as well as RDR2 scores for PS4 and X1 combined.  If you are really clinging to that 0.09, I will let you have it.  Numbers do not lie.  HOWEVER...

 

Seeing how you decided to go behind the mods back and change your thread title back to stating that RDR2 is the highest current gen game period, I will say this.

 

While RDR2 has a whooping 0.09 higher score on metacritic, the reader reviews say otherwise.  This makes BotW much better received overall in terms of quality than RDR2 when it comes to the general public.  I mean you said yourself they both got review bombed, so it seems fair to compare them in this case.  Also as I stated before, Zelda is a holder of the GotY title while RDR2 is not.  Also over at gamerankings, Zelda is also more acclaimed than RDR2 there as well.  On open critic, RDR2 is more acclaimed.

 

So the way I see it...

 

RDR2 has Metacritic CRITIC advantage (by 0.09) and Open Critic advantage.

 

BotW has Metacritic USER advantage (by more than 5), won more awards, and has gamerankings advantage.

 

This mean that by what you changed your title back too even after a mod changed it for you once, Zelda BotW is this generation's highest rated and decorated game overall.  Anything more you say is basically hinging on 0.09 and at this point, it is not worth my time anymore.

 

RDR2 highest critcal game on MC this gen by 0.09 as per your OP.

 

Zelda BotW is the highest rated and acclaimed game of this gen overall as per the title you insist on keeping around to bait people.

 

Have a nice day!

And in the end, a decimal point different is futile.

Both are acclaimed games regardless of how we try to twist the narrative. It all just boils down to what the consumers think of the games once they play the games.



Kai_Mao said:
Shiken said:

Numbers are in, I did the math myself.

 

RDR2- 96.79

BotW- 96.71

 

So there you have it, RDR2 is a whopping 0.09 higher than BotW on metacritic.  This is WiiU and Switch scores combined for BotW as well as RDR2 scores for PS4 and X1 combined.  If you are really clinging to that 0.09, I will let you have it.  Numbers do not lie.  HOWEVER...

 

Seeing how you decided to go behind the mods back and change your thread title back to stating that RDR2 is the highest current gen game period, I will say this.

 

While RDR2 has a whooping 0.09 higher score on metacritic, the reader reviews say otherwise.  This makes BotW much better received overall in terms of quality than RDR2 when it comes to the general public.  I mean you said yourself they both got review bombed, so it seems fair to compare them in this case.  Also as I stated before, Zelda is a holder of the GotY title while RDR2 is not.  Also over at gamerankings, Zelda is also more acclaimed than RDR2 there as well.  On open critic, RDR2 is more acclaimed.

 

So the way I see it...

 

RDR2 has Metacritic CRITIC advantage (by 0.09) and Open Critic advantage.

 

BotW has Metacritic USER advantage (by more than 5), won more awards, and has gamerankings advantage.

 

This mean that by what you changed your title back too even after a mod changed it for you once, Zelda BotW is this generation's highest rated and decorated game overall.  Anything more you say is basically hinging on 0.09 and at this point, it is not worth my time anymore.

 

RDR2 highest critcal game on MC this gen by 0.09 as per your OP.

 

Zelda BotW is the highest rated and acclaimed game of this gen overall as per the title you insist on keeping around to bait people.

 

Have a nice day!

And in the end, a decimal point different is futile.

Both are acclaimed games regardless of how we try to twist the narrative. It all just boils down to what the consumers think of the games once they play the games.

Exactly!  For me RDR2, Zelda BotW, Mario Odyssey, Persona 5, and God of War are top of this gen together.  Really once you get over a 9, everything is subjective.

 

I mean a decimal that small could go either way if they had the same amount of reviews (122 vs 130), but he will ignore that because it has become obvious he only made this thread to get people worked up.



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I dont think any pokemon title can reach those numbers, even more than 90 would be a great surprise. Anyway, I hope thay can achieve it so it would mean the game is great!

Also I think theres no point on arguing that much over the topic, we all have our opinion and facts have been exposed so people can check and take their conclusions... In my opinion BotW is one step forward to any other game this generation for what it meant when it came out but well I guess I prefer those kind of games!

And for the thread, its gonna be difficult because I think nowadays, only big games with big names can really compete, which is kind of sad. I feel like a new 3d mario different from odyssey could make it.. (odyssey was great but in my opinion there was something in mario galaxy, some magic that made more special)