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What generation is the Nintendo Switch?

Generation 8 (PS4, XBoxOne) 71 44.94%
 
Generation 9 57 36.08%
 
Generation 1 (of the hybrid era) 14 8.86%
 
I don't care...I come to VGC for the chicks 16 10.13%
 
Total:158
Wyrdness said:
Hynad said:

What a hilarious reply you laughably wrote there. Couldn’t refrain myself from chuckling at this complete display of hilarity.

I mean, seriously.

So... The Vita is a Hybrid console. Thanks for clearing that up.

Ironic considering the only other person who shares your view dismissed Vita as we brought that up against both your views and even he said it doesn't fall under that as the PS3/4 is required so this leaves you hilariously on your own in trying to be funny, don't worry we all laughed at your poor attempt at posts as well here's a simple question for you, can Wii U be played anywhere as described in the definition or a portable handheld above?

Simple yes or no answer.

It's not our argument that the Vita is a hybrid console.
So do you believe it to be a Hybrid console or not? If not, then why?



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Pemalite said:
Wyrdness said:

Ironic considering the only other person who shares your view dismissed Vita as we brought that up against both your views and even he said it doesn't fall under that as the PS3/4 is required so this leaves you hilariously on your own in trying to be funny, don't worry we all laughed at your poor attempt at posts as well here's a simple question for you, can Wii U be played anywhere as described in the definition or a portable handheld above?

Simple yes or no answer.

It's not our argument that the Vita is a hybrid console.
So do you believe it to be a Hybrid console or not? If not, then why?

Earlier me and some others pointed out that under the notion you're pushing it would make the PS3 and Vita hybrids because of remote play but you said that's entirely different as they're separate devices that require each other which is the point in the reply to him.

If by Switch I've always said it's a hybrid that has access to both portable and home markets if you mean Wii U no it's not a hybrid in my view because being limited to one location doesn't make it a portable it's just a home console with a convenient feature.



Wyrdness said:

Earlier me and some others pointed out that under the notion you're pushing it would make the PS3 and Vita hybrids because of remote play but you said that's entirely different as they're separate devices that require each other which is the point in the reply to him.

That isn't what I said at all. I suggest you go back and re-read my statements if that is the conclusion you came to.

The WiiU does off-screen gaming. Each and every single console does that out of the box.

Wyrdness said:

If by Switch I've always said it's a hybrid that has access to both portable and home markets if you mean Wii U no it's not a hybrid in my view because being limited to one location doesn't make it a portable it's just a home console with a convenient feature.

List the amount of fixed home consoles that you can game anywhere in your home without the requirement of a Television.
It can be used as a handheld or it can be used as a traditional console gaming device. - THUS by it's very definition it is a "Hybrid" device as it melds two different concepts together.

Thus far I haven't been shown an argument that is really solid on why the WiiU isn't a hybrid.



Pemalite said:
Wyrdness said:

Earlier me and some others pointed out that under the notion you're pushing it would make the PS3 and Vita hybrids because of remote play but you said that's entirely different as they're separate devices that require each other which is the point in the reply to him.

That isn't what I said at all. I suggest you go back and re-read my statements if that is the conclusion you came to.

The WiiU does off-screen gaming. Each and every single console does that out of the box.

Wyrdness said:

If by Switch I've always said it's a hybrid that has access to both portable and home markets if you mean Wii U no it's not a hybrid in my view because being limited to one location doesn't make it a portable it's just a home console with a convenient feature.

List the amount of fixed home consoles that you can game anywhere in your home without the requirement of a Television.
It can be used as a handheld or it can be used as a traditional console gaming device. - THUS by it's very definition it is a "Hybrid" device as it melds two different concepts together.

Thus far I haven't been shown an argument that is really solid on why the WiiU isn't a hybrid.

"The Vita is a separate console, not an accessory that is included with every single Playstation 4 sold, meaning we cannot regard the Playstation 4 as a hybrid device as not every Playstation 4 came with everything out of the box. (Although, Sony would probably appreciate the extra Vita sales.)"

That's the vita/PS4/PS3 part sorted, look at the definition of handheld I linked you earlier Wii U doesn't fall under that as you're rooted to one singular location your home while a handheld by definition allows gaming everywhere so by that definition Wii U is not a handheld much like the same way a cordless house phone is not a mobile phone as a result Wii U is not a hybrid. As for your question PSone and PS2 had screen attachment accessories that allowed gaming with out TVs.



Wyrdness said:

 

That's the vita/PS4/PS3 part sorted, look at the definition of handheld I linked you earlier Wii U doesn't fall under that as you're rooted to one singular location your home while a handheld by definition allows gaming everywhere so by that definition Wii U is not a handheld much like the same way a cordless house phone is not a mobile phone as a result Wii U is not a hybrid.

A Handheld is any gaming device you hold in your hands. The range/distance you can take it is not what the term "handheld" entails.

So yes, the WiiU is a handheld. It's also a fixed console. Thus a hybrid.

A cordless house phone is also a "hybrid". - It melds two concepts together... A fixed home phone and a mobile phone.

Wyrdness said:

 

As for your question PSone and PS2 had screen attachment accessories that allowed gaming with out TVs.

Fantastic.



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Pemalite said:
Wyrdness said:

 

That's the vita/PS4/PS3 part sorted, look at the definition of handheld I linked you earlier Wii U doesn't fall under that as you're rooted to one singular location your home while a handheld by definition allows gaming everywhere so by that definition Wii U is not a handheld much like the same way a cordless house phone is not a mobile phone as a result Wii U is not a hybrid.

A Handheld is any gaming device you hold in your hands. The range/distance you can take it is not what the term "handheld" entails.

So yes, the WiiU is a handheld. It's also a fixed console. Thus a hybrid.

A cordless house phone is also a "hybrid". - It melds two concepts together... A fixed home phone and a mobile phone.

Wyrdness said:

 

As for your question PSone and PS2 had screen attachment accessories that allowed gaming with out TVs.

Fantastic.

Wii U is not a handheld as it doesn't fall under the handheld definition of allowing play in multiple locations your house is just one location so no it's not a handheld and not a hybrid, people aren't bringing up range distance as what defines being a handheld they're bringing it up because if you can't move away from the fixed console unit then you can't play in any other location.



Pemalite said:
Wyrdness said:

 

That's the vita/PS4/PS3 part sorted, look at the definition of handheld I linked you earlier Wii U doesn't fall under that as you're rooted to one singular location your home while a handheld by definition allows gaming everywhere so by that definition Wii U is not a handheld much like the same way a cordless house phone is not a mobile phone as a result Wii U is not a hybrid.

A Handheld is any gaming device you hold in your hands. The range/distance you can take it is not what the term "handheld" entails.

So yes, the WiiU is a handheld. It's also a fixed console. Thus a hybrid.

If we want to go broad on the definition it doesn't have to be a gaming device or even an electronic device. A hammer is a handheld, a book is a handheld, a screwdriver is a handheld, a knife is a handheld. A Swiss Army Knife is a hybrid, a book with a sturdy cover (sturdy enough to use it for hammering) could also be a hybrid

"Console" is also a broad term and includes non-gaming devices and even non-physical stuff like command-line interfaces.

But we are in a gaming forum and if there is talk about "handhelds", usually we are talking about "hand-held dedicated gaming consoles". And if there is talk about "consoles", usually we are talking about "dedicated gaming consoles connected to a TV".

Of course if we are talking here about a console hybrid, we mean a hybrid of  a "hand-held dedicated gaming console" and a "dedicated gaming console connected to a TV". Not of a hybrid between a "hand-held dedicated gaming console"and something other or a hybrid between a "dedicated gaming console connected to a TV" and something other. You keep ignoring that.



Wyrdness said:

Wii U is not a handheld as it doesn't fall under the handheld definition of allowing play in multiple locations your house

Actually, that is exactly what off-screen gaming allows for.

Conina said:

Of course if we are talking here about a console hybrid, we mean a hybrid of  a "hand-held dedicated gaming console" and a "dedicated gaming console connected to a TV".

Just like the WiiU?

Conina said:


Not of a hybrid between a "hand-held dedicated gaming console"and something other or a hybrid between a "dedicated gaming console connected to a TV" and something other. You keep ignoring that.

Like the Switch?



Hybrids are mixtures. Hybrid cars run off electric or diesel so they're not actual hybrids. They're either-or like Switch is.

WiiU is a hybrid like impotent mules are.

Switch isn't.

Switch is a Schroedinger console that exists in a superposition of multiple states until an observer collapses the wave function into a state of handheld, tabletop or home console.



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