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Nuvendil said:
SpokenTruth said:

I don't have to convince you of anything given that the industry itself accepts it as such.

I think people often forget that generations are entirely arbitrary categorizations used in the industry to divide the history of console sales and competition into periods dominated by sets of hardware that were considered contemparies of one another and were each other's principle competition.  The Switch makes the most sense as a Gen 8 platform.  Yes, that means Nintendo had 2.  Doesn't really matter.  Barring miraculous legs or a surprise early launch for gen 9, the Switch will garner the majority of its sales in competition with the PS4 and Xbone.  And it will do so over a period of 3 years or more.  Rolling it into gen 9 would make no sense.  

Absolutely correct.  And having 2 consoles in the same generation is not unprecedented.  Magnavox had 2 consoles in the first generation, Atari had 2 in the second generation, Sega and Atari both had 2 in the 3rd generation and SNK had 2 in the fourth generation.  It's less common now but it's certainly not something unique to Nintendo this generation.

Too many people think power determines their inclusion into a generation but nobody in the industry itself has ever used that criterion.



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colafitte said:
p0isonparadise said:

Nintendo used NPD data for its PR. 

Yes, i agree of course. But then should not be "Nintendo:...."??.

Just looking at some of the very first google sites that appear searching for "switch sales" in last 24h brings me to articles like this one:

https://www.kitguru.net/gaming/damien-cox/the-nintendo-switch-is-selling-quicker-than-the-xbox-one-and-playstation-4/?PageSpeed=noscript

"American researchers at the NPD Group have stated that the Nintendo Switch has sold “more than 8.7 million units” in the United States in its first 20 months."

It doesn't  even name Nintendo PR until the 3rd paragraph, and articles like this will be all over the world. That's my problem.

Edit: There are others that make it right too, to be honest.

So......you're just mad at the facts then.



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Great sales. Congrats.



SpokenTruth said:
Nuvendil said:

I think people often forget that generations are entirely arbitrary categorizations used in the industry to divide the history of console sales and competition into periods dominated by sets of hardware that were considered contemparies of one another and were each other's principle competition.  The Switch makes the most sense as a Gen 8 platform.  Yes, that means Nintendo had 2.  Doesn't really matter.  Barring miraculous legs or a surprise early launch for gen 9, the Switch will garner the majority of its sales in competition with the PS4 and Xbone.  And it will do so over a period of 3 years or more.  Rolling it into gen 9 would make no sense.  

Absolutely correct.  And having 2 consoles in the same generation is not unprecedented.  Magnavox had 2 consoles in the first generation, Atari had 2 in the second generation, Sega and Atari both had 2 in the 3rd generation and SNK had 2 in the fourth generation.  It's less common now but it's certainly not something unique to Nintendo this generation.

Too many people think power determines their inclusion into a generation but nobody in the industry itself has ever used that criterion.

I dont see a normal xbox one and a one x as the same console either



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kirby007 said:
SpokenTruth said:

Absolutely correct.  And having 2 consoles in the same generation is not unprecedented.  Magnavox had 2 consoles in the first generation, Atari had 2 in the second generation, Sega and Atari both had 2 in the 3rd generation and SNK had 2 in the fourth generation.  It's less common now but it's certainly not something unique to Nintendo this generation.

Too many people think power determines their inclusion into a generation but nobody in the industry itself has ever used that criterion.

I dont see a normal xbox one and a one x as the same console either

Well yeah, hardware revisions are another example of major new hardware releases - even ones that constitute a substantial upgrade - don'ttruigger a new gen.  The first gen of dedicated handhelds for example is more or less measured as the GB to the launch of the GBA.  The GBC was not considered a new gen.  Nor were the many competitors that launched during that span at different points.



tbone51 said:
Wyrdness said:
My prediction for first month sales was 9m but it looks like it possibly will do that in its first 2 weeks.

Sell thru or ship+digital?

The prediction was for WW ship+digital but at this point it's looking to beat 9m sell through.



p0isonparadise said:

Nintendo PR? Confusion ensues.

Only for a single person this time *shrugs*



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kirby007 said:
SpokenTruth said:

Absolutely correct.  And having 2 consoles in the same generation is not unprecedented.  Magnavox had 2 consoles in the first generation, Atari had 2 in the second generation, Sega and Atari both had 2 in the 3rd generation and SNK had 2 in the fourth generation.  It's less common now but it's certainly not something unique to Nintendo this generation.

Too many people think power determines their inclusion into a generation but nobody in the industry itself has ever used that criterion.

I dont see a normal xbox one and a one x as the same console either

This is where you have to be careful about generational and console delineations.  Again, power is not the criterion.  The Xbox One X doesn't differentiate itself enough from the standard model to gain acceptance as a separate and independent console.

Admittedly, these rules aren't written in stone and their application is largely centered around industry consensus. With that in mind, the industry still qualifies the One and One X as the same console....just different models.



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Well, this has become not fun at all a long time ago. I stretched this conversation long enough. I made the point that i didn't like (whoever actually says it) reading a PR saying X console is the fastest selling consoles against Y and Z without any kind of context, and i should not have done that. I derailed the thread badly because i wanted to answer every poster and that was a mistake.

The point was, that i don't like recent PR from anyone recently. I made the same criticism back then with Nintendo PR (and it was proved that Nintendo failed at giving correct numbers) and when Rockstar announced RDR 2 sales (with its best selling weekend ever). I WOULD DO THE SAME IF SONY DID THE SAME THING, but because Sony is more quiet than a mute nun in a church recently..., they obviously can not make mistakes that way....but believe, i will be there when they screw up. I expect then people calling me a hater or a Nintendo fanboy then.

So my honest apologies to everyone here. It seems that i failed miserably in trying to explain my point of view....Again, congrats to Nintendo and their fantastic sales numbers. I probably need to spend some time off of this site....