I voted bexit. 

Your comment of "Anyone with any racist or discriminitave tendencies all voted Brexit its a diagrace" just goes to show that you have a bias and simply disagree to the point of name calling.

The coronavirus crisis has exposed the truth about the EU: it's not a real union

The European Union has scraped through its latest crisis by the skin of its teeth. The past week has been a disgrace. When ministerial talks collapsed on Thursday over the plan for a “coronabond”, the reaction seemed terminal. Germans and Dutch insulted Italians and Spaniards. Italy’s prime minister, Giuseppe Conte, said his country faced an “economic and social emergency”, and the EU appeared not to care.

The Danes spoke of “a financial crisis on steroids”. The European commission’s vice-president, Frans Timmermans, predicted “the EU as we know it will not survive this”.

Finally a last-minute package was agreed, for €500bn of emergency loan finance. This was little more than an extension of the existing European stability mechanism, designed to help individual countries in short-term emergencies. Even then, it was a mere third of what the European Central Bank had said was needed, €1.5tn euros. What was specifically not agreed was any sharing of the economic burden of the pandemic across European treasuries in general. It was mostly more loans.

The reason was glaringly obvious, and as old as the EU itself. The northern European nations within the eurozone still do not trust the hard-pressed southern ones to spend money wisely and pay back their debts.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/10/coronavirus-crisis-truth-eu-union-financial-rescue

If you read it on TheGuardian....

to be fair....  Theguardian is a british newspaper, that would like to go out of their ways to smear the EU.

One point is right in all this though:

"The northern European nations within the eurozone still do not trust the hard-pressed southern ones to spend money wisely and pay back their debts."

And if you look how Italy has been run in the last decades, you'd not be surprised the least. Italy, for example, has been a sinkhole for the EU for, like forever. And now they are yelling "we want even more money from the EU because it's all the EU's fault". The louder people in Italy are mad because they think they have the right to get even more money, while the louder people in the north are mad and think enough is enough, Italy should be tossed out of the EU.

From theguardian as well:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/09/brexit-britain-economy-coronavirus-gdp-figures-economic-growth


"When this outbreak first began, all the talk was of a sharp but mercifully short economic sting in the tail. The downturn triggered by putting everyday life on hold to halt the infection should, we were told, be V-shaped: a shock, but one from which we’d soon bounce back. Like many comforting predictions in the early days of this pandemic, that is beginning to look alarmingly over-confident."

"The first problem with picking up exactly where we left off is that where we left off was already in trouble."

"we may have been teetering on the verge of a recession, as business confidence dried up in the face of a potentially hard Brexit. The fear is that the economic aftermath of this crisis, like the virus itself, might be toughest on those with pre-existing conditions - including otherwise thriving western countries choosing this moment in history to shoot themselves in the foot."

^ basically Britain already had "pre-exisiting conditions" with reguards to its economy.... before the Corona virus hit them.
They also were very late to shut things down (because they believed in herd immunity at the start of the outbreak), so the UK is weeks behinde other nations, in fighting this thing off (and thus likely have to stay closed up for even longer).

"Yet the trouble with calls to ward off economic disaster by risking an early end to the lockdown is that, in a sense, it’s too late for that now. If the country had been shut down right at the start, when there were only a handful of cases in Britain and influential voices were still scoffing that this was just a touch of flu, there may have been public outrage at a perceived over-reaction, but we might now have had the luxury of wondering whether we could afford to ease off.

As it is, there was something almost surreal about a No 10 press conference that saw journalists asking when we might be allowed out again while the death toll was climbing towards 1,000 a day. We are nearing the moment of maximum danger, the moment hospital chiefs hold their breath and even atheists in Whitehall start praying. The blunt truth is that nobody is going anywhere, possibly not for months yet, if we want to keep this infection within hospitals’ capacity to cope. So if we can’t cure what directly ails the British economy any time soon, the only option is to try and improve its underlying condition. "

"if the lockdown lasts into early summer, a similarly big ideological leap of imagination looms over Brexit. For the first time, according to a YouGov poll, a narrow majority of Britons now want to extend the transition beyond December, suggesting the last thing many voters want right now is another economic shock. For now, Boris Johnson’s administration is clinging to the pretence that a complex Brexit deal can still somehow be negotiated in the middle of a national emergency that has put the prime minister in intensive care."


You guys have to remember:
Brexit didnt go into effect until Jan 31st 2020. (realistically it hasnt yet, first dec 31st 2020)
Also theres a 11 month long transition periode, granted the UK (in the deal).

So once this corona virus outbreak is gone, the UK is gonna have to deal with all their trade deals falling apart (dec. 31st 2020).
Good luck trying to get the economy back on track in the UK.

Its hard to "invest" into production (build new plants / create jobs), if you know your gonna run into issues selling things, soon after.


Edit:
Reminder, before the UK joined the EU, their ecomony was in huge trouble (its why they joined).
They got farvorable deals, to help them get their economy back on track, and kept those all the way to they left.

They have a huge "service industry" and "financial industries" that are dependent on the EU allowing them to do bussiness the way they have, and these allowances are bound to fall by the side, once they are out of the transition periode.  Its a no brainer, their economy will suffer a hard hit, because large amounts of their money are made from un-sustainable bussiness (once they leave).

TheGuardian go out of their ways to smear the EU? The Guardian has more faith in the EU than the EU itself. I literally scroll through TheGuardian headlines to chuckle, sometimes though, they do manage to be objective.  

EDIT; I see you managed to find out that yourself given the guardian article you just linked

Thats not Pro EU, thats just "holy cows are we screwed!" type of article.

Economy was going bad, even with favorable deals from EU, while in the EU.
Large amounts of their economy is based on financial trade systems, that wont work once their out and past their transition periode.

Coronavirus ontop, and their trade deals falling apart soon after (31st dec 2020).

The UK economy is f***ed.

EU is in a real crisis at the moment due to the circumstances

if there was a country that had better avoid a crisis, that was Italy, their debt was already on the limit (due to corruption) and now this

but what does a real union mean anyway? that the rich North have to pay for the debt of the poor-corrupted South? how will the South society improve if others pay their debts? a real union is a fair one too

I really hope the EU makes it through without more losses or it's a finished matter, the EU and the Economic Zone is a huge hope for Europeans in a world of titans, if we let it slip through our hands we are very stupid as a continent

I predict that the actual Brexit will take another year extension, not enough time for negotiations and a no deal would be bad for an already weak UK economy that cannot take any more after the virus and the damage already done by Brexit... funny and ironic but only the flag and the parliament members did an exit - for now

edit: US elections could mean that the US trade deal is not guaranteed to come fast enough if Biden wins, another reason for extension

Europe has already given the UK like ~4 years of time (the vote was in 2016).
I think if UK has to ask for another extention, there should be some demands from EUs side / consessions from the UK.

It isnt right for the UK to pull the EU around by the nose, and dictate when things happend.
If anything that fact that the UK is now in a even weaker position, means the EU should pressure the UK.

I get the impression that you think the UK has had easy/plenty of time granted by the EU, that is not the case.

The UK is the 3rd biggest net contributor to the EU, I believe the UK should have every right to have a favourable deal, yes preferably being useful to both the UK and EU. https://fullfact.org/europe/uk-one-biggest-contributors-eu-budget/

"The UK also gives and receives much more money via trade with other EU countries, so transactions with the EU budget aren't the full story when it comes to the UK’s economic relationship with the rest of the EU."

Yes the UK had a vote in 2016. At that time it was Teresa May leader of the Conservative party who was pro remain with mostly pro remain party support and the opposing party (Labour) who was also pro remain trying to deliver a 'brexit' deal. In the media both the major parties (Conservative and Labour and other smaller parties) made big claims in the begining about honouring the vote to leave on live TV only to push a more pro remain deal which angered the population as a democratic vote was being actively subverted.

This eventually lead to a complete break down of parliment (and eventual replacement of the speaker) as the deal Teresa May made was basically capitulation to the EU as a colony and never actually leaving. 

Back when the UK joined the European Economic Community (EEC) it was based mainly upon economic interests to benefit both parties, however evolution has gone much beyond that, as in the European Courts having the power to override the courts of european countries themselves. People see this as power that has simply gone too far (an extra layer of bureaucracy that can not be overturned by a nation) and want out.

For the record I did vote leave and personally have no prejudice towards Europe and the people that live there, however I do believe the European Union has been seeking too much power in the last few years and now it appears to be close to falling apart.

Edit for spelling!