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phinch1 said:
Wyrdness said:
The is no best way we're a medium economy with practically no significant resources we leave we're buggered no matter what the fact that the are still people who still believe it's great despite the chaos going on is mind boggling.

Wrong wrong,Were the 5th largest economy in the world and the fact we've given our fishing industries away for all those land locked eu countries 

That was true back in 2016.

Today France is a bigger econemy than the UK is.
Your 6th place now not 5th.
Also in terms of purchasing power parity (PPP), the UK isnt even in the top10.

With how the £ dropping and brexit, things arnt looking to improve imo.



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phinch1 said:
Wyrdness said:
The is no best way we're a medium economy with practically no significant resources we leave we're buggered no matter what the fact that the are still people who still believe it's great despite the chaos going on is mind boggling.

Wrong wrong,Were the 5th largest economy in the world and the fact we've given our fishing industries away for all those land locked eu countries 

We're not 5th mate that was a while back don't be surprised if we slip even further down as time goes on if we leave also the's more to economics than what they use to place us on such a chart for example our purchasing power is nowhere near the other big economies in the top 10, if you look at our actual situation we're actually medium economy and a lot of that comes from the finance sector where businesses from the world use us for transactions rather than our other industries and mind you the are alternatives to our financial sector for businesses so that's not very secure either.

 

Edit: Someone already pointed this out.



Mr Puggsly said:
OTBWY said:
A new referendum with everyone knowing the implications this time.

Democracy does work, but not with one side telling mostly lies and misleading people.



If the UK is going to be so hopelessly screwed when they leave the EU, why is the EU trying so desperately to hold onto the UK? Because they care oh so much about it's people and 'lousy' economy or because when the UK leaves and ends up just fine, or possibly better off, it will mean even more trouble for the EU and it's fed up members?



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Oh planet Earth! The home of native lands, 
True social law, in all of us demand.
With cattle farts, we view sea rise,
Our North sinking slowly.
From far and snide, oh planet Earth, 
Our healthcare is yours free!
Science save our land, harnessing the breeze,
Oh planet Earth, smoke weed and ferment yeast.
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Honestly, Brexit was absolutely idiotic. The EU was created to counter the U.S so that the countries in the union had a bigger say in the economy and world affairs. Nowadays you could say the EU is also used to counter China and soon India, therefore in the event the U.K leaves the EU it will have no bargaining power whatsoever against the gargantuan top 3 economies of the future. Also, most of the E7 countries will eventually catch up or surpass the U.K in terms of economic power bringing more competition to international markets and thus less of a need to trade with the U.K. individually especially if the kingdom were to split up.



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EricHiggin said:

If the UK is going to be so hopelessly screwed when they leave the EU, why is the EU trying so desperately to hold onto the UK? Because they care oh so much about it's people and 'lousy' economy or because when the UK leaves and ends up just fine, or possibly better off, it will mean even more trouble for the EU and it's fed up members?

Somone gets it, we're one of their biggest buyers of goods, German car manufacturers have already pleaded for some sort of deal because we're their biggest buyer of cars 



EricHiggin said:

If the UK is going to be so hopelessly screwed when they leave the EU, why is the EU trying so desperately to hold onto the UK? Because they care oh so much about it's people and 'lousy' economy or because when the UK leaves and ends up just fine, or possibly better off, it will mean even more trouble for the EU and it's fed up members?

Define desperately because to most people it's more them preferring UK remains because of collective power on the world stage but still being fine if UK left because unlike us they actually have things mapped out for either scenario after all do you hear EU politicians talking about food shortages and stashing medicine like the PM is? If UK leaves it'll only be replaced in relevancy by another country eventually.



JRPGfan said:
phinch1 said:

Wrong wrong,Were the 5th largest economy in the world and the fact we've given our fishing industries away for all those land locked eu countries 

That was true back in 2016.

Today France is a bigger econemy than the UK is.
Your 6th place now not 5th.
Also in terms of purchasing power parity (PPP), the UK isnt even in the top10.

With how the £ dropping and brexit, things arnt looking to improve imo.

Wanna link some proof to that? Also I don't think France is doing well losing billions in its 5th week of protest. 



phinch1 said:
JRPGfan said:

That was true back in 2016.

Today France is a bigger econemy than the UK is.
Your 6th place now not 5th.
Also in terms of purchasing power parity (PPP), the UK isnt even in the top10.

With how the £ dropping and brexit, things arnt looking to improve imo.

Wanna link some proof to that? Also I don't think France is doing well losing billions in its 5th week of protest. 

https://money.cnn.com/2017/11/22/news/economy/uk-france-biggest-economies-in-the-world/index.html

India is not far behind us either.



phinch1 said:
EricHiggin said:

If the UK is going to be so hopelessly screwed when they leave the EU, why is the EU trying so desperately to hold onto the UK? Because they care oh so much about it's people and 'lousy' economy or because when the UK leaves and ends up just fine, or possibly better off, it will mean even more trouble for the EU and it's fed up members?

Somone gets it, we're one of their biggest buyers of goods, German car manufacturers have already pleaded for some sort of deal because we're their biggest buyer of cars 

Democracy isn't simply for the people, by the people. It's for "your" people, by "your" people. As soon as "your" people, becomes 'everyone's' people, democracy in whatever form, no longer works properly. This is the reason why the UK and the EU are in this mess, and same goes for the US in their own way. When 'everyone's' beliefs, morals and rules, etc, are no longer the building blocks of "your" system, a democracy doesn't work unless you change it as well, to fit the changes of 'everyone's' ethics. That's not to say democracy only works if 'everyone' is always 100% in agreement, but the core principles must be aligned or it won't function as intended. This is part of the reason for individual countries and their borders.

It isn't coincidence why you heard the US media and it's 'followers' promoting 100% democratic voting considering the popular vote in 2016, and why they don't seem to care much about borders, especially right now. That is not how the US system works however, and for good reason.



The Canadian National Anthem According To Justin Trudeau

 

Oh planet Earth! The home of native lands, 
True social law, in all of us demand.
With cattle farts, we view sea rise,
Our North sinking slowly.
From far and snide, oh planet Earth, 
Our healthcare is yours free!
Science save our land, harnessing the breeze,
Oh planet Earth, smoke weed and ferment yeast.
Oh planet Earth, ell gee bee queue and tee.