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281,000 Switch
_74,500 PS4
____150 Xbox One
Not bad.... Switch is crushing its competition.
Miyamotoo said:
Offcourse that 3rd party game can sell well on Switch, but we here talking about legs, I mean you were rearly see on any platform and on other markets that any 3rd party game has strong sales like Nintendo games do, only notible games to kind to my mind are GTAV and Minecraft. Talking about Nintendo games, you also have 2D Mario, alogside Animall Crossing and Pokemon, and in any case I think that price cuts and revisions will do more for Switch sales in Japan than any game could. Switch 3rd party is increasing, next year from 3rd party we will have Yokai Watch 4 and Dragon Quest 11 S, and those are just currently confirmed games. |
2D Mario -> Port
DQ XI -> Port
Yokai Watch 4 is the only game that truly fits in what i'm asking. We are close to finish the second year of Switch and the best 3rd party title still remains Mario Rabbids and it looks like a Nintendo game, not an Ubisoft game. After that ...what?, more ports of old games like Skyrim or Minecraft. And after those, the only 3rd party game reaching 1M or more worldwide must be Octopath Traveler and i doubt it will sell more than 2M. Fifa and other sport games did meh, Diablo 3, Crash Bandicoot and Dark Souls ports (more ports) did nothing too big either....
So where are the 3rd party new games (even exclusive games) from western and eastern companies like Wii, DS or 3DS had?? 2019 will have some more..., but again, except yokai watch 4, i'm not seeing nothing groundbreaking. And to be precise..., i don't mean niche games, i mean games that have the potential to sell 3M, 4M, 5M or more, like the rest of Nintendo first party games, like the big 3rd Party titles PS4 have.
Switch was supposed to change this, like WiiU back then, but both seems to follow the same path.
Edit: And i'm not forgetting indie digital games. They're critically successful but they don't put the world on fire saleswise.
RolStoppable said:
Third parties are doing well on Switch. Don't make the fundamental mistake that games that don't even exist should chart high. As for Nintendo's biggest IPs, 2D Mario is missing on your list. There's also no reason to be concerned about IPs having appeared on Switch already, because sequels also drive hardware sales. Regarding reaching sales of the 3DS, Switch will be at ~8m after two full years vs. ~10m for the 3DS; that looks like Switch isn't in a good position, but Switch is 30k yen vs. the 3DS's 15k yen (therefore more sales potential due to price cuts) and Switch is without revision while the 3DS already had one (another advantage for Switch in the long run). DS sales are in a league of its own, so not matching them is the norm rather than a reason to be worried. |
That's what i meant. Your "doing well" is not the same as my "doing well". When we low the bar with Switch because reasons..., and don't put Switch at the same level as its competition, we are not being honest and fair. Just Destiny in 2014 probably sold more units than all the other 3rd party games combined on Switch in 2018, and then you have to count the Watch Dogs, the Evil Withins, the Middle Earths, the Assassin's Creeds, the CODS, the FIFAs.....
Edit: The reason why Switch is doing so well is because Nintendo is at the top of their game right now, giving the best possible Marios, Zeldas and Smash Bros. You don't have that quality of games (and i mean GOTY caliber level, not just good games) and you repeat what happened with WiiU.
Last edited by colafitte - on 12 December 2018
| Kerotan said: If ps4 keeps this up it could have another 1.8m+ year. Anything over 1.75m would be excellent. Keeping well ahead of the ps3 aligned. 8m here we go! |
This week shouldnt fool you, its a temp price cut sure but its also one right at the start of holidays with 2 free games. I dont think sony going to go that hard next year. Maybe a price cut, im thinking more of 1mil-1.2mil next year. Unless something drastic happens tbh
tbone51 said:
This week shouldnt fool you, its a temp price cut sure but its also one right at the start of holidays with 2 free games. I dont think sony going to go that hard next year. Maybe a price cut, im thinking more of 1mil-1.2mil next year. Unless something drastic happens tbh |
He means 1.8 for this year and with the sale lasting until January 6th, the 1.8 number is doable.
RolStoppable said:
I put Switch at the same level, so it's you who isn't honest and fair at the moment. For example, if a game has a development and marketing budget of $10m, then the sales expectations should be the same regardless of console. What you are doing is compare PS4 games with a budget of $200m to Switch games with $10m. You insist that Switch should have third party games that sell 1m+ copies in Japan alone and that at a time when no game that can reach that threshold has been released yet. |
Nah, you are being subjective. Why should i consider a game costing 1M and generating 10M in sales more succesful than a game costing 10M and generating 50M???, one has 9M profit and the other has 40M. To earn mony you have to spend it first. Don't compare relative success to absolute success. The only way to reach those levels of profits is spending a lot.
And i'm not asking 1M+ in Japan, but at least some game that reach 200k, 300k, 500k.
colafitte said:
2D Mario -> Port DQ XI -> Port Yokai Watch 4 is the only game that truly fits in what i'm asking. We are close to finish the second year of Switch and the best 3rd party title still remains Mario Rabbids and it looks like a Nintendo game, not an Ubisoft game. After that ...what?, more ports of old games like Skyrim or Minecraft. And after those, the only 3rd party game reaching 1M or more worldwide must be Octopath Traveler and i doubt it will sell more than 2M. Fifa and other sport games did meh, Diablo 3, Crash Bandicoot and Dark Souls ports (more ports) did nothing too big either.... So where are the 3rd party new games (even exclusive games) from western and eastern companies like Wii, DS or 3DS had?? 2019 will have some more..., but again, except yokai watch 4, i'm not seeing nothing groundbreaking. And to be precise..., i don't mean niche games, i mean games that have the potential to sell 3M, 4M, 5M or more, like the rest of Nintendo first party games, like the big 3rd Party titles PS4 have. Switch was supposed to change this, like WiiU back then, but both seems to follow the same path. Edit: And i'm not forgetting indie digital games. They're critically successful but they don't put the world on fire saleswise. |
I didnt had NSMBU on mind when I said 2D Mario but something like Mario Maker or new 2D Mario game, but NSMBU will also have strong sales and effect in some degree on Switch. DQ11 is a port but will have effect on sales in any case.
If you paid attention lately you would notice that Switch has increasing 3rd party support, most 3rd party decided or to support or to take Switch more seriously this year, and that means we will start seeing more bigger games next year and in 2020. Also Nintendo itself will keep investing in 3rd party exclusives in any case. Despite point that games like Dark Souls, Diablo 3, CrashBandicot...are ports they still have effect in some degree on Switch sales because we talking about great games in any case that now could be played in full handheld mode.
We just got announced MK11, Crash Bandicoot Racing and Marvel Heroes like Switch exclusive, we will have much more of those when we actually get in 2018.
But Switch is changing this, its getting very wide support on market, going from Indies, to A, AA, last gen ports to some AAA games and 3rd party exclusives, and we can expect much more of all that next year.
Look on this list will gave you clear picture just how much stronger 2019. currently looks compared to how 2018. looked in same period of last year:
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=238576&page=1#
1.8 million would require 100k average the last 3 weeks. I don't think that's doable. 1.7 million would be ~67k average and is likely the ceiling. That would leave the PS4 around flat YoY wouldn't it?
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