By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Sony Discussion - PS4 just surpassed XB360 on VGChartz

Best place to play is Playstation! Full stop!



Around the Network

Lol, if over 80 million is your worst selling console you are waaaay ahead of the game.



Lube Me Up

LMU Uncle Alfred said:
Lol, if over 80 million is your worst selling console you are waaaay ahead of the game.

That’s why it amazes me when people put down the PS3’s numbers. It is still the 5th best selling console of all time, even though it’s the worst selling PS home consoles 



0331 Happiness is a belt-fed weapon

Can't wait for the 100M MARK.

Last edited by Keiji - on 08 December 2018

John2290 said:
I wonder how many more individual sales that is considering failure rates, I remember seeing estimates of a 51% failure rate for 360, if it was even half that and victims rebought multiple times it could be in he tens of millions.

I’ve read about people who went through 6 or 7 consoles, so highly plausible. 

What that would also mean though is, for what reason ever, X1 in reality would be ahead of 360, launch aligned.



Around the Network
John2290 said:
I wonder how many more individual sales that is considering failure rates, I remember seeing estimates of a 51% failure rate for 360, if it was even half that and victims rebought multiple times it could be in he tens of millions.

The other wild card this generation is how many people double dipped due to the kid generation upgrades.  On one hand, units sold are units sold.  On the other hand, if we're trying to measure the relative popularity of a system, double dipping muddies the waters.  



VAMatt said:
John2290 said:
I wonder how many more individual sales that is considering failure rates, I remember seeing estimates of a 51% failure rate for 360, if it was even half that and victims rebought multiple times it could be in he tens of millions.

The other wild card this generation is how many people double dipped due to the kid generation upgrades.  On one hand, units sold are units sold.  On the other hand, if we're trying to measure the relative popularity of a system, double dipping muddies the waters.  

Can you write in more simplistic way so my small french brain could understand ?



But their worst selling console sold worse than any Xbox console



Jezz, 360 was a god damn beast and Ps4 already outsold it.



Keiji said:
VAMatt said:

The other wild card this generation is how many people double dipped due to the kid generation upgrades.  On one hand, units sold are units sold.  On the other hand, if we're trying to measure the relative popularity of a system, double dipping muddies the waters.  

Can you write in more simplistic way so my small french brain could understand ?

Sorry, there's a typo in there that probably contributes to the confusion.   So....

Because of the PS4 Pro and Xbox one X coming in the middle of the generation, some portion of the consoles sold were sold to people that already owned the original version each of those consoles. So, 80 million PS4 sold does not mean 80 million different people purchased PS4s. Several million of those are people that bought more than one.

I was mentioning this in relation to the Xbox 360 replacement comment. Certainly, the Xbox 360 numbers were inflated to some degree (moreso thantusual) by people replacing their broken systems.  I think the mid generation upgrades have a similar effect on sales numbers in this generation.  I just don't know to what extent.