curl-6 said:
They failed to have a strong Q1/Q2. If your teams are all busy, outsource to or moneyhat third parties, or better yet, expand your first and second party teams ahead of time, like they should've done years ago, so that they never have a problem providing a steady stream of big games. |
Outsorce some big internal games to 3rd parties could complicate and not do much, also just expanding teams cant gave results, simple, strong/big games need time in any case.
Miyamotoo said:
Outsorce some big internal games to 3rd parties could complicate and not do much, also just expanding teams cant gave results, simple, strong/big games need time in any case. |
Outsourcing games has given great results on numerous occasions going back to the SNES days. Stop making excuses for them, they've been given years and years to fix this problem, first it was "oh they need to get used to HD development" then it was "oh they're supporting two platforms". There are no longer any excuses for them to ever have a stretch as weak as they did this Jan-Oct.
curl-6 said:
It's doable though, Nintendo just didn't invest enough to make it happen. The possibility of Labo not taking off should've been shored up with core heavy hitters in Q1 and Q2. They have only one platform to support now, they're adapted to HD development, and they have had years to expand their studios, buy up second parties, and court/moneyhat third parties. The days of excuses are over, any failure to deliver now is solely on Nintendo for not properly planning ahead. |
They had plenty of 1st/2nd party content this year.
Jan-Kirby Battle Royale, Pokken DLC pack 1
Feb-Bayonetta 1+2, Odyssey Balloon World DLC
Mar-Kirby Star Allies, Detective Pikachu, Kirby DLC pack 1, Pokken DLC pack 2
Apr-Labo Variety, Labo Robot
May-Tropical Freeze, Hyrule Warriors, Dillon Heat Breaker
Jun-Sushi Striker, Octo Expansion, Mario rabbids DK Expansion, Mario Tennis
Jul-Captain Toad, Octopath Traveler, Kirby DLC pack 2
Aug-WarioWare
Sep-Labo Vehicle, Xenoblade 2 Expansion
Oct-Mario Party, Luigi's Mansion
Nov-Pokemon, Kirby DLC 3
Dec-Smash Bros
It just wasnt filled with mega sellers or games you personally want.
When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.
zorg1000 said:
They had plenty of 1st/2nd party content this year. Jan-Kirby Battle Royale, Pokken DLC pack 1 Feb-Bayonetta 1+2, Odyssey Balloon World DLC Mar-Kirby Star Allies, Detective Pikachu, Kirby DLC pack 1, Pokken DLC pack 2 Apr-Labo Variety, Labo Robot May-Tropical Freeze, Hyrule Warriors, Dillon Heat Breaker Jun-Sushi Striker, Octo Expansion, Mario rabbids DK Expansion, Mario Tennis Jul-Captain Toad, Octopath Traveler, Kirby DLC pack 2 Aug-WarioWare Sep-Labo Vehicle, Xenoblade 2 Expansion Oct-Mario Party, Luigi's Mansion Nov-Pokemon, Kirby DLC 3 Dec-Smash Bros
It just wasnt filled with mega sellers or games you personally want. |
DLC/Labo/ancient ports/borderline shovelware are not good enough.
RolStoppable said:
Not good enough for what exactly? |
For a company of Nintendo's caliber.
curl-6 said:
DLC/Labo/ancient ports/borderline shovelware are not good enough. |
Kirby, Mario Tennis, Octopath & Mario Party are borderline shovelware? Nope, those are all solid mid-tier titles in terms of score and sales. Yoshi & Fire Emblem were sadly delayed out of this year which would have given them 6 mid-tier games in the Jan-Oct period which is pretty good output.
When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.
curl-6 said:
For a company of Nintendo's caliber. |
That doesnt answer the question.
When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.
zorg1000 said:
Kirby, Mario Tennis, Octopath & Mario Party are borderline shovelware? Nope, those are all solid mid-tier titles in terms of score and sales. Yoshi & Fire Emblem were sadly delayed out of this year which would have given them 6 mid-tier games in the Jan-Oct period which is pretty good output. |
They're all filler, the kind of games that fit between the showpieces, not showpieces themselves.
One must not have a very high opinion of Nintendo if they think this year is truly the best they can muster.
curl-6 said:
They're all filler, the kind of games that fit between the showpieces, not showpieces themselves. One must not have a very high opinion of Nintendo if they think this year is truly the best they can muster. |
I thought DLC, late ports & shovelware were filler? Brand new entries in popular franchises are not filler titles.
When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.
zorg1000 said:
I thought DLC, late ports & shovelware were filler? Brand new entries in popular franchises are not filler titles. |
Some franchises are filler in themselves, the sort of thing people buy in between the big A-grade games but which aren't really system sellers or major events in and of themselves. I mean, it's nice to have a new Kirby, but it's not in the same league as Odyssey, Breath of the Wild, Smash, or Splatoon 2, for instance.
Anyway, I can just see this turning into a days-long slog so I'm just gonna skip to the end and just say that I'm sure we can all agree that 2019 looks much better and that hopefully it is.
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