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Who is your favorite PC Digital Distributor?

Steam 16 57.14%
 
GOG 11 39.29%
 
Origin 0 0%
 
Uplay 0 0%
 
Betheseda.net 0 0%
 
Blizzard/Battle.net 0 0%
 
itch.io 1 3.57%
 
Other 0 0%
 
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Darwinianevolution said:
Chazore said:

Also, another thing. People seem to forget that Tencent own a lot of Epic's shares, and so far Tencent do not have a client storefront in the West, so by default, Epic's new client could become Tencent's proxy in the West. I know how Tencent see Steam ads their enemy, and will do anything to Steal Steam's thunder (for their own gain, not the consumer's) 

Dammit, that's true. Compared to Tencent, Steam is an innocent lamb, so I really dread the idea of Epic turning into Tencent's key to the western PC market.

If Tencent's going all in for this, though, they could put bot League of Legends and Fortnite in their service. That's huge, bigger than anything Steam has by far.

Also this:

https://www.dsogaming.com/news/epic-games-is-no-longer-actively-working-on-unreal-tournament/

Great PC "support" so far right?.

 

People give Steam shit for not pulling a Ubisoft and spamming franchises yearly (which is actually quite bad and shows a willingness to milk something to death, but some forum users here don't give a fuck about artistic vision or integrity), yet here is Epic deciding to drop a PC IP because Tencent likely told them to, all because it's not a "billion dollar franchise". 

All this tells me, is that it's all about money and nothing else. Although Valve are making some VR games and a card game, both of which I have no interest in, at least they are still making something, while Epic just drop their PC ip's like a rock, because a greedy af Chinese company told them to (just like they told them to make FN a BR game and to focus less on the original design). 



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Chazore said: 

Maybe it might give MS a right heavy kick up the arse to completely sort out their storefront and get more PC only games going. 

Steam has a bigger library going than the MS store, so let's not kid ourselves into giving MS more pats across the back, for what little they do for PC gaming. Steam by far still has more features and built in modding for PC games, MS store does not.

Also Activision only has two games on B.net, which are both online and have a defined limited lifespan, L4D 1-2/Tf2/HL/Portal do not.

Also CoD went for more than full price on B.net, so no "competitive" pricing there at all, same for the MS store and Uplay/Origin. The only one actually being decently competitive is GoG.

Also"matching"?, yeah, when's that going to actually happen for once?. 

Not seeing the bigger picture again are you. Steam only offers 3rd party games with an exception of afew. Something there competitors will be offering as well.

Sure Steam has more games, its also filled with some of the worst shovelware and offers a bunch of VR games that are useless to the majority. Steams quality control is up the creek and that needs to be addressed.

Windows store isnt perfect but it works well enough. While next gen Win10 will be offering games like Halo Infinite, Gears and 14 studios making games with W10/Live in mind, Steam will be offering.. umm the same 3rd party games like every other store front. 

Valve needs a kick up the ass because they need to offer there own games where as Xbox has there own games plus many more via GamePass and there many 1st party studios.

PSNow and Live are only getting bigger and this is something i am suprised you don't see.



Azzanation said:


Not seeing the bigger picture again are you. Steam only offers 3rd party games with an exception of afew. Something there competitors will be offering as well.

Sure Steam has more games, its also filled with some of the worst shovelware and offers a bunch of VR games that are useless to the majority. Steams quality control is up the creek and that needs to be addressed.

Windows store isnt perfect but it works well enough. While next gen Win10 will be offering games like Halo Infinite, Gears and 14 studios making games with W10/Live in mind, Steam will be offering.. umm the same 3rd party games like every other store front. 

Valve needs a kick up the ass because they need to offer there own games where as Xbox has there own games plus many more via GamePass and there many 1st party studios.

PSNow and Live are only getting bigger and this is something i am suprised you don't see.

There is no "bigger picture" to begin with. There are only a few storefronts doing one or two things, all while largely ignoring what Steam has been offering for years (even you ignore this directly on purpose. You try to excuse it and you will do so when I point this out to you in some shape or form) in terms of features and services.

Steam offers thousands of games, thousands more than any other storefront hopes to even offer. If you want to cite one storefront having garbage, then you have to include them all, and when you have to then resort to "well this store has the most", then you're honestly running out of options to admit that the other storefronts do a poorer job. Look at MS's storefront and their cluttered mess of mobile and F2P games, with the few AAA games being offered within their storefront. They have a very, very tiny 1st party offering on their storefront, smaller than Steam itself. Even then I can still play L4D 1-2, TF2 and the portal games just fine on my system. The gears ultimate collection?, not a chance, because it currently still runs like arse on my system as well as other user's systems as well (and please don't pull that shitty little "well it works on my system, so I'm right above everyone else" schlock), and there is still no way to sort those issues out, as well as there being any help from MS to fix it. Meanwhile, TF2 still receives updates, as well as CSGO, years and years later. Same goes for DOTA 2.

Also, one man's trash is another man's treasure, and according to Windows store, PC gamers apparently fucking love mobile trash, just look at this utter tripe:

Now compare it to Steam's, which also includes offers and what's trending among friends, as well as offering categories up front on the same page, as well as being sifted automatically thanks to the discovery queue that I've been able to complete at any time:

Windows store is far, far from perfect, and even MS know this, and they've known this for more than 4 years and yet they keep nattering the same promise year after year and yet they do nothing about it, and you have gall to think that Steam needs a kick up the arse. At least they are leaking details and info about their storefront overhaul via Twitter, fucking MS hasn't said nor shown anything for theirs. All they keep doing is spewing the same "we know it's bad, but we promise we'll work on it", but they never do. That's not my opinion either, that's a god damn fact, and I'm tired of you always mirror retorting or blocking the shit that I point out each and every time. 

This was two years ago: https://www.pcgamer.com/microsoft-promises-to-improve-the-windows-store/

Now 25 days ago: https://www.pcgamer.com/xbox-boss-admits-microsoft-has-a-ton-of-work-to-do-on-the-windows-store/

And then there's this: https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/9w3ey3/phil_spencer_promises_to_fix_microsoft_store_for/

This has been well over a year ago and all we've had is AoE 1 remaster: https://www.pcgamesn.com/microsoft-promises-more-games-in-2017

 

MS made promises to PC gamers last gen, and they fell through with them and just kept rolling with that horrible GFWL DRM, just like they wish to roll with UWP, so PC gamers cannot mod/fix those games. That's why I cannot modify and fix the broken mess that is Gears Ultimate. My PC runs all other games fine and dandy, but not a busted console port that's forcing you to run with the horrid DX 12 API, with zero option for DX 11. 

Steam will be fofering their own games, the games they have been working on over the years, years which MS has been working "forever" on, umn, like maybe, I dunno CRACKDOWN?.

MS needs a far bigger kick up the arse when it comes to PC gaming, because others like Steam/GoG have been offering what MS has not (by definition of fact, not subjectivity). 

Also, fuck paying a sub fee for "free games", I'd rather pay up front per game to own them. Fuck right off with that toxic netflix style bullshit. 

I'm surprised you still defend a mega corp to the death, and claim you're "for everyone". You sure don't show it. 



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@Chazore

The point still goes over your head. Yes Steam is bigger at the present, no one is debating it isn't, its still my preferred PC platform today so stop with the mega corp defence BS and talk sensible. Steams library is bigger with the exception of more utter trashy games and VR which adds fat to a pool of games, but I will agree and say all storefronts have there bad games but Steam has been criticized many times for there lack of quality control, this isn't coming from me, but I have seen it many times as I view there store front nearly every day. Don't believe me, go ask Jim Sterling, he has tons of videos on Steams quality control, ill link one for your convenience.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0GPmRCTOO8

Win10 games not running well.. I mean Horizon 4 runs great on PC and I haven't heard anyone having any issues with that game. Gears I have only played on Xbox, I cannot tell you how it runs on PC, but I am sure it runs better on PC over Xbox regardless.

The point is Steam relies heavily on there current and old customers. I am done with TF2, LFD2 and Portal 2 etc, I want new games from Valve not some mediocre card game. I want a L4D3 etc. AAA Games I cannot play on anything else. Next gen is a new era and right now with the efforts others are putting into there digital stores and software like MS buying out dozens of studios makes there store front more attractive because you know, Games you cannot play anywhere else, and many gamers wouldn't care about the performances if the games are exclusives and unplayable on Steam. If MS go that route. 

What's Steam going to offer me that other gaming stores wont? Mods? okay.. but I am not into mods, I just want good AAA games. When the competition starts fixing there apps and not only matching the deals on Steam with 3rd party support, but offering a truck load of 1st party games that Steam might not see the light of day on, that's where Valve needs to counter back with games. And right now, Valve brought 1 studio compared to MS's 6 in 2018. 

As a huge Valve fan I hope they see this and start thinking about making games again rather than relying on 10 year old games and 3rd party AAA games that just about every other store front gets anyway.

Last edited by Azzanation - on 08 December 2018

Steam has the biggest library but its GOG for me to be the most consumerfriendly,steam supports so much trash that it feels like looking at a scam when overlooking the games they have on sale.
I love the epic store because it gives me 24 games a year for free for just having an account. :p



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Honestly, after seeing all that Epic isn't doing and putting me off wanting to support indie devs, I'm still sticking with Steam.

Console level wars shouldn't even be a thing on PC, it should be competition via features and service, not buying up devs exclusively like some petty and greedy child.



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BasilZero said:
Immersiveunreality said:

Steam has the biggest library but its GOG for me to be the most consumerfriendly,steam supports so much trash that it feels like looking at a scam when overlooking the games they have on sale.
I love the epic store because it gives me 24 games a year for free for just having an account. :p

 

They didnt guarantee the free program to last a year.

Well yeah it would be even worth it for 1 free game :)