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Who is your favorite PC Digital Distributor?

Steam 16 57.14%
 
GOG 11 39.29%
 
Origin 0 0%
 
Uplay 0 0%
 
Betheseda.net 0 0%
 
Blizzard/Battle.net 0 0%
 
itch.io 1 3.57%
 
Other 0 0%
 
Total:28

Eh. That's nice and all. Competition is always good for consumers. But, I'll be excited if/when I see them make a serious push to take market share from Steam.



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Looks like Epic is also looking for a way to stop making games...



I'm not sure how I feel about this. On one hand, this sounds pretty neat, but on the other hand, Steam is pretty good and I don't want the market to become even more fractured than it already is.



Hm, seems like there's a lot of store clients on PC as it is. Do we really need another one? And from a dev who hasn't really made any games since Gears (as far as I can recall and no, fuck Fortnite)



Zkuq said:
I'm not sure how I feel about this. On one hand, this sounds pretty neat, but on the other hand, Steam is pretty good and I don't want the market to become even more fractured than it already is.

Steam is actually pretty terrible and could cause a crisis in the video game market, especially because of the out-of-control inflation in the number of games on the platform. Developers compare this possible crisis to 1983 and call it the indiepocalypse, because a lot of indie developers could disappear (mostly on Steam and mobile).

Otherwise, sure, Steam is pretty good for the customers. But I could understand why some developers could be interested in alternatives. But not sure if this one will be able to get big enough, like all the other ones who tried and failed...



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BasilZero said:

Terrible in what sense though? Going by your definition, Playstation is the Steam equivalent of Consoles, has been and will keep on being so especially since the Xbox brand lost a lot of support from the Japanese region compared to the 360 and Nintendo still in no shape to have as good as third party support as Playstation or even Xbox at this point.

There's plenty of alternatives out there and will keep coming in. If Epic Games/Tencent cant become big enough to be a competitor to Steam, then no one can.

There are 20.000~ games available on PSN and sees 150 releases weekly?

It doesn't matter how many alternatives there are, it is one market that is littered with garbage.



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BasilZero said:
Zoombael said:

There are 20.000~ games available on PSN and sees 150 releases weekly?

It doesn't matter how many alternatives there are, it is one market that is littered with garbage.

 

I wish PSN would have that much but unfortunately they wont see those numbers mainly because Sony refreshes PSN every generation (at least going by this gen) - hopefully the next Playstation (5) will support b/c with digital titles but I'm not gonna hold my breath on that.

 

Also ,surely you jest about the number of games coming out a week, do you honestly go through each and every thing that is released in a physical store or do you go search for something you know you want like a normal person does lol.

 

The number of alternatives do matter because you are given a choice of buying what you want, when you want and where you want just like on consoles.

The issue is that Steam has way too many games releasing all the time, without control, and it is impossible for most games to be visible and to sell more than maybe a hundred of copies. Too much crap for that. So a lot of small developers end up in danger because their games can't sell, and the quality of the games have nothing to do with it. 



BasilZero said:
Faelco said:

The issue is that Steam has way too many games releasing all the time, without control, and it is impossible for most games to be visible and to sell more than maybe a hundred of copies. Too much crap for that. So a lot of small developers end up in danger because their games can't sell, and the quality of the games have nothing to do with it. 

 

If you have told me that, 15 years ago - I would have believed you.

 

But we're living in a age of social media - Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Twitch, etc - make this moot.

 

Its not that there's too many games overshadowing indie titles, its that there's too many GOOD games overshadowing them.

 

When you consider a niche Japanese title that barely sells compared to AAA western studios on consoles doing better than PC indies on the same platform, I think being overshadowed should be the least of their worries.

 

It's not even about being overshadowed. It's that Steam listings are a complete mess filled with a lot of crap, so your chances of finding a game without looking specifically for it are almost zero. Sure, they can talk on social media, but how many "Try this great indie game" ads on social media can you see everyday?

Niche Japanese titles have a loyal audience following them closely, assuring at least a minimum level of sales, good enough to be profitable. But if you release your own indie game on Steam, it will get completely buried and forgotten in just a few hours, and you can consider yourself lucky if you get 100 sales. 



If it has similar curation to GOG, it could maybe stick around. Steam is nice, but has severe content curation issues. I don't know how anyone can tell you that the volume of games on the platform doesn't lead to good games failing. It completely destroyed the mobile game market for paid games and has lead to indies fleeing to any new platform where they can get visibility (which is why Switch was so attractive, but even Switch is getting buried with too many crappy games each week).



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If it's not bothering to take all of Steam's pages, while also adding in as many features as Steam has, all while adding in mod support and a very beefy library selection of games, then I'm honestly not going to be interested.

I'm not interested in Discord's crappy storefront because of how it is, and I'm not interested in the likes of Ubisoft's either.

Competition is good, but only when the competition offers a very, very strong offering, and not just "oh I think this offering is better than Y offering", it's got to be the whole caboodle, and nothing less.

Also, I'm not a massive fan of companies trying to seriously fragment gaming on PC. People think indie devs need some form of special snowflake protection, but you're ultimately asking me and everyone else to jump through more hoops, paying up more, and also giving up the ease of having all my games in one place of my choosing, as well as ease of gaming in general.



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