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Jabba89 on 05 December 2018

@Shiken this topic seems to be more about you trying to convince everyone that Switch is the best primary console and not why it is just as viable as any other console as a primary.

Of course it is just as viable as a primary console, I don’t see many disagreeing but some users have said why it’s not a viable primary console for them, just as you have stated the reasons it is a viable primary console for you.

It is a viable primary console but it is not for everyone, just as every other thing in the world is a viable something but not for everyone.



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Sixteenvolt420 on 05 December 2018

I wouldn't game much if Switch was my only console. I only care to play Nintendo first party games on it, for the most part. PS4 is my main gaming machine.



Shiken on 05 December 2018
Nozz-A-La said:
Shiken said:

Ok, so far I have seen no valid argument over why the Switch cannot be a viable primary console option in general, only subject reasons that only account for their own needs.

"lack of major 3rd party games"

Most of these games are only big in advertising, as it does not rquate to quality.  How many times have major releases disappointed this gen?  Also there are plenty of other 3rd party games that are just as good on Switch, just without the advertising that the "bigger" games have.  I have listed a few of them countless times already.

Point is, there will always be something to play.

"I do not care about portability"

Thats nice, but just as many people do.  Myself for example is a result of it giving me double the playtime that my PS4 offers.  This allows me to play more games on Switch, making my PS4 Pro my SIDE console.

The bigger library is a pointless thing FOR ME if I will play and finish more games on the Switch anyway.  Time to play is everything, and the Switch has a solid library overall so far in of itself.  There was never a time I felt like I had nothing to play, and even picked up games that I had previously skipped on PS4 due to those very time constraints.  Being on Switch made that possible for me.

"online sucks"

Yes it does.  Not to a point where it makes the system unviable, but yes it does suck.  No argument from me on this.

"Too many ports"

The Switch is less than 2 years old, and it already has more exclusive games in quality and quantity than the PS4 and X1 did during their entire first 2 years.  Furthermore most of the games during that period were cross gen, offering little incentive to buy a PS4 at the time (remember the PS4 has no gamez memes?).

Did this make the PS4 any less viable if a main console for you, or does that only apply to Nintendo devices?  Hell the PS4 was even a jump from free online on PS3 to paid online on PS4.  The free games sucked as well, only recently have they hotten better.  At least Nintendo gives us ports of current gen games that can be taken on the go, alongside great exclusives out of the gate.

"No games that cater to me"

Can be made for any console.  Switch has more playformers and Metroidvania games, and will likely have the most Japanese support moving forward.  Not to mention the games that support local multiplayer in comparison to the ither two.  One of the most subjective points yet.

"less visual performance"

That is a trade off for portability.  Do not like it and do not like Nintendo games, go with PS4 or X1.  This makes it no less viable for others though

These are the main points I am seeing and the only thing they do is make you look closed off in your own little bubble.  Your needs are not the needs of everyone, and so far no evidence has been given to why the PS4 or X1 are more viable as a main console than the Switch.

With that logic every console can possibly be a main console..

What console can't be a viable primary console in your eyes?

That is the entire point.  The PS4, X1, and Switch are all viable in their own way depending on the person.  There are people on these very forums (and across the net) that would try to argue that the Switch is not viable to a "real gamer" or that "you are missing out on the best games" if Switch is your primary.  Just look at some of the replies in this thread.

 

This is me giving them valid evidence of the contrary  and giving them a chance to debate the matter.  So far no valid reason has been presented as to why their preferences are absolute.  Some make claims that "most people" fit their bill, but they do not.  There are people on these forums that value portability, but because some would rather believe the "Switch will fall off a cliff", they disregard these people.  Let alone the people who do not even partake in online forums.

Jabba89 said:
@Shiken this topic seems to be more about you trying to convince everyone that Switch is the best primary console and not why it is just as viable as any other console as a primary.

Of course it is just as viable as a primary console, I don’t see many disagreeing but some users have said why it’s not a viable primary console for them, just as you have stated the reasons it is a viable primary console for you.

It is a viable primary console but it is not for everyone, just as every other thing in the world is a viable something but not for everyone.

Incorrect, I am saying all three are equally viable depending on the person.  I make that clear in every reply  but seeing how I am replying to people who would rather believe the Switch is a side console at best for most people, it might seem like I am saying Switch is best for everyone.

 

I am simply pointing out how foolish it is to state that the Switch cannot be a main platform to a "real gamer", as some people try to claim in several threads on this site.

 

Let me be clear on my stance, all three offer equally viable options as a primary console for the mainstream audience.  It is not a niche console like Vita, Virtual Boy, WiiU, etc.  I am not trying to take away from the other two, but simply stating how the Switch has just as much mainstream appeal as the PS4 and X1 as they all offer something unique.

 

Switch- flexibility to play on the go or at home using a single save file, single copy of the game, and seamlessly for those that desire it.  Also it has more exclusive content than any of the three.

 

PS4- Great exclusive content and better 3rd party support for HD home console gaming.

 

X1- Has some decent exclusives, but their real advantages are their services and 360 BC.  Also of you have the money for an X, best 4k console experience to date.

 

All of them have their place in mainstream gaming, to argue otherwise only makes you look narrow minded.  That is all I am saying.



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DonFerrari on 05 December 2018
mjk45 said:
This may have been addressed by earlier posts ,but the simple fact is if you own multiple consoles the title of primary console is easily definable by use , that's if you want to label things, the one thing I feel being overestimated is people denying Switch can be your primary console , just about every time multiple consoles are bought up it's usually along the lines of someone mentioning such and such being their primary console and the order tends to be as variable as the people and the number of consoles mentioned, I can't recall any talk that Switch should not be used in such examples.

I would say I remember seeing much more people saying Switch was their primary or that Switch can be than people saying it can't. So at most this thread would be directed at a very minimum subset of users of VGC that may or may not be in the thread.



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Shiken on 05 December 2018
BasilZero said:
Shiken said:

 

Well you see, the portability is the key.  Just because it is not that important to you does not mean that it is not huge for other people.  As pointed out before, I get nearly double the gaming time with my Switch than I do my PS4 Pro.  For me, the Switch is the obvious winner because actually playing the games comes before all the bells and whistles.

 

I get games that are not on Switch on my PS4, and the rest on Switch for that reason.  This makes Switch my primary console, and there are more people in this boat than many realize.  I have seen at 10 or so people get a Switch at my workplace for this reason in fact.

 

Also you do not NEED all big AAA releases, in fact one could say that most of them are overrated these days anyway.  I mean look at Fallout 76 and Battlefield 5 for example.  Also games like Ys VIII, Wolfenstein 2, Dragonball FighterZ, and Valkeria Chronicles 4 are no less viable as options than any other game, and they are on Switch.

 

Heck I have RDR2, but I am focusing on Wolfenstein right now because playing on my PS4 does not give me the allotted time I desire to play games right now.  There is far more to it than just library size alone, especially considering that the Switch has a good one in its own right.

 

Not to mention they have their own exclusive experiences as well, some of the best in fact.  So with that in mind, you really lose nothing by having Switch as a primary and if portability is a factor, you gain so much more.  What is the use of the bigher library if there are equally good games on Switch that I will actually have time to play, if I will never get to most of what the other console offers?

 

So you see, it varies person to person and the reality of it is that the Switch is no less viable than any of the other 3 platforms.  You can admit to this fact without it being your own choice as well, your situation does not equal everyone else's afterall.

 

Err, you are wrong. Portability is important for me specifically because I play games during my lunch break every day I work. I alternate between the PSP, DS and 3DS currently.

I get equal play time on all my platforms (via alternating once I finish playing games).


Despite that, the bells and whistles versions are well worth the price moreso than the inferior versions on the Switch. You say playing the game is the most important, playing a game in the highest resolution and FPS adds to the overall experience. But of course, you get what you paid for.

 

And the problem with your logic is that you assume everyone's needs are the same as yours.  If someone can only game say 6 hours a week when tied to a TV, or 15 hours a week when utilizing the Switch, it would make perfect sense that they would choose the Switch version of those games.  There are just as many people who fit this category as there are those who fit yours, and to ignore that puts a huge hole in your entire argument.  I am not saying Switch as a primary is best for everyone, just that there are just as many people out there in the  mainstream that it is.  As an example, I just played Wolfenstein 2 on Switch and loved it.  Not because I waited for the game to come out on Switch just to do it, but for the simple fact that without the portability I would have never been able to make time for it, as is the case for most multiplat games on Switch when it comes to a schedual similar to mine.



You say 10 people at your work place means your reasoning is right, I can tell you a similar thing except there's more than 10 people at my workplace that have either a PS4, Xbox or a gaming PC but dont even have a Switch mainly cause they

 

a) dont realize what a Switch is
b) didnt even know Nintendo was still around (with the N64 or the Wii as the last system they knew about it)
c) PS4/XBO/PC being a much more bang for a buck platform than the Switch

 

Well thats the entire point, many people have many different situations.  For some, Switch is best, for others not so much.  Not sure what you are getting at here.


You say "You do NOT need all AAA releases, games are overrated"? What happened to playing games as the most important thing? lmao - whether those games are overrated or not, is irrelevant for one who plays games for the sake of games - someone like me who primarily buys game systems to play games.

 

Again, thats the point.  You buy a system to play games so if you do not have the time to play them all without portability, what is the point?  I am not saying that those games are not worth playing, I am saying that the Switch has many other 3rd party games that are.  At no point will someone with a Switch as primary not have a game to play.  This is why I own Red Dead 2 but have yet to start it, no time.  But I did finish Starlink, Wolfenstein 2, and put a good chunk of time into Warframe.  I will play RDR2 when I have time, but I have the Switch as my primary to cover me until that time comes.

Blaming one game of a franchise while ignoring the other games in the franchise while abandoning any hope of said IPs in the future is a bit silly. I mean surely you who play Nintendo games mostly can agree , that not even Nintendo makes a perfect game - especially if you go by last gen's greatest creations in the last two years (i.e. that Amiibo festival game, Star Fox Zero, etc).

 

You are missing the point, which is that just because a game belongs to a specific IP or it has heavy marketing, that does not make it a must play when there are other game, as good or better, to play on.

 

"Not being able to play the PS4 in my alotted time" - sounds more like a personal problem than a reason for argument to play one console over another. If as a gamer your main intention is to play games, than setting a time to play said games should be priority, you dont need to play games for hours and hours a day. For an example, I play 1 hour of a portable game (PSP, DS, 3DS) during my lunch break at work and I spent about 1 hour to 1 hour and 30 min in the evening right before going to sleep - plentiful amount of time to play and beat games - you arent required to play games every day either, its all about time management and it can be easily done. I work so many hours and still spend time with my family yet I'm still able to finish 48 games so far in 2018.

The problem here is you are living ina bubble, and anyone who has different needs than you are wrong or has a personal problem.  If putting my career, kids, and wife ahead of making sure I can game on my PS4 as much as I can on my Switch is a personal problem to you, perhaps I am not the one with my priorities mixed up.

 

Library sAize is key to buying a platform, you buy a platform that has the potential to have the biggest selection of what you want, as a gamer I want as many games and am interested in playing them, I dont limit myself to a few specifically inferior versions of games that are better elsewhere.

 

The thing is, the Switch has a nice library size, so many of us choose it as primary because it allows us to have the time to experience that library as much as possible.  Not everyone lives in your bubble.


"You dont lose any more with the Switch" - umm, I guess you didnt get my previous points. Achievements/Trophies, a bigger fanbase for online interaction, better resolution/fps - you dont have any of these things on the Switch versions lol

Except there arent equally good number of games. Nintendo's first party lineup is great but when that and its low number of third party support pales in comparison to Playstation's first and third party output combined specifically the third party output. Hell even the Xbox can be easily compared to the Switch, the main issue with the Xbox is its first party support while it gets decent third party - while on the other hand Switch's main positive is its first party output but its third party output is the weakest out of the three.

You keep saying you dont have time and that it doesnt matter what other consoles offer, but that sounds like your own personal problem and you are using that as an argument against the PS4, XBO and PC lol. Stop using a excuse as an argument.

Ya you are right that varies from person to person - you and your 10 people's situation do not equal the situation of the rest of the game industry's market.

 

So what proof do you have that a good chunk of the mainstream does not fit into this category?  And to clarify, I am not using anything against X1 or PC, simply saying there are just as many people in the mainstream that would benefit from having Switch as primary as those who do not.  You are trying to say that we are the minority, when HW sales in even a slow year prove otherwise.  Hell some 3rd party games outsell the X1 version on Switch, so someone else must be benefiting from them.

 

(Nice thread btw - wish there were more engaging threads like this on this site lol)

 

thank you, and nothing personal with my replies.
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Mnementh on 05 December 2018
The_Liquid_Laser said:

Reading through this thread I realize the main distinction for people is really how they feel about Western AAA games.  Some people see these games as the main draw in getting a console and others do not.  I would bet the OP doesn't really care about Western AAA games too much.

Some people point to other aspects like cutting edge graphics or online multiplayer, but really these are aspects associated more with Western AAA games.  Online shooters are mostly Western, and the games that go for high end graphics are like 80%+ Western games.  

So really the distinction is, "What are my favorite games?"  If your favorite games include few AAA Western games, then having Switch as your primary/sole console makes a lot of sense.  But if you play a lot of Western AAA games, then you may scratch your head at why people are talking up the Switch so much.

Yeah, that is very much a main point here. To the point that missing the major western AAA equals to "Switch has no games" or "with Switch as primary you don't play much". Many people don't even acknowledge the existence of games beyond a narrow window of western AAA. Which is a pity, there are great japanese or indie games.

Mr Puggsly said:

If Switch was my only gaming device, I simply wouldn't do much gaming. Many of the games I play or interested in playing are not on Switch.

I could have easily bought a Switch during Black Friday, but I purchased a Xbox One X instead. That means I rather make my Xbox One games play better versus having access to the Switch library.

Thanks for this post. Not because you have the same opinion as me, you choose differently. But because you say the Switch has not enough game for you instead of not enough games period. There is a big difference. It is pretty clear, that people have different tastes and Switch has a library that differs strongly from the libraries of PS ans Xbox. But it has a big library of good and great games. It is clear not everyone is into it, and that's cool, that's the other consoles are for.

DonFerrari said:
mjk45 said:
This may have been addressed by earlier posts ,but the simple fact is if you own multiple consoles the title of primary console is easily definable by use , that's if you want to label things, the one thing I feel being overestimated is people denying Switch can be your primary console , just about every time multiple consoles are bought up it's usually along the lines of someone mentioning such and such being their primary console and the order tends to be as variable as the people and the number of consoles mentioned, I can't recall any talk that Switch should not be used in such examples.

I would say I remember seeing much more people saying Switch was their primary or that Switch can be than people saying it can't. So at most this thread would be directed at a very minimum subset of users of VGC that may or may not be in the thread.

Isn't every thread for a subset of users in VGC? If there is a thread about God of War, it is only for the GoW-fans, isn't it? I don't get your point.



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DonFerrari on 05 December 2018
Mnementh said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

Reading through this thread I realize the main distinction for people is really how they feel about Western AAA games.  Some people see these games as the main draw in getting a console and others do not.  I would bet the OP doesn't really care about Western AAA games too much.

Some people point to other aspects like cutting edge graphics or online multiplayer, but really these are aspects associated more with Western AAA games.  Online shooters are mostly Western, and the games that go for high end graphics are like 80%+ Western games.  

So really the distinction is, "What are my favorite games?"  If your favorite games include few AAA Western games, then having Switch as your primary/sole console makes a lot of sense.  But if you play a lot of Western AAA games, then you may scratch your head at why people are talking up the Switch so much.

Yeah, that is very much a main point here. To the point that missing the major western AAA equals to "Switch has no games" or "with Switch as primary you don't play much". Many people don't even acknowledge the existence of games beyond a narrow window of western AAA. Which is a pity, there are great japanese or indie games.

Mr Puggsly said:

If Switch was my only gaming device, I simply wouldn't do much gaming. Many of the games I play or interested in playing are not on Switch.

I could have easily bought a Switch during Black Friday, but I purchased a Xbox One X instead. That means I rather make my Xbox One games play better versus having access to the Switch library.

Thanks for this post. Not because you have the same opinion as me, you choose differently. But because you say the Switch has not enough game for you instead of not enough games period. There is a big difference. It is pretty clear, that people have different tastes and Switch has a library that differs strongly from the libraries of PS ans Xbox. But it has a big library of good and great games. It is clear not everyone is into it, and that's cool, that's the other consoles are for.

DonFerrari said:

I would say I remember seeing much more people saying Switch was their primary or that Switch can be than people saying it can't. So at most this thread would be directed at a very minimum subset of users of VGC that may or may not be in the thread.

Isn't every thread for a subset of users in VGC? If there is a thread about God of War, it is only for the GoW-fans, isn't it? I don't get your point.

Sure every thread is for a subset of users. But when it is a reaction and defense thread aimed at VERY MINIMAL SUBSET, that as said by most on the thread doesn`t even occur in relevant numbers it is much different than making a thread to discuss GoW.



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0D0 on 05 December 2018
Shiken said:
0D0 said:

I agree. The biggest games are on all other platforms: ps4, xb1 and pc, while Nintendo is more about Nintendo exclusive, Japanese stuff and indies. Games like FE, Pokemon, Animal Crossing, Luigi's, Yoshi, Kirby, those are not the games for the casual market. When you want to be sure you'll getting all the games everybody's playing you need to go to the other platforms.

Besides, everything from Nintendo is more expensive. They just don't care about cutting prices. I can get lots of great PS4 games with the price of a weird SMT x FE for Wii U. Nintendo is too expensive.

I've got lots of friends with Switch getting dust. They went for "look how cool that is" and they ended up with a Zelda only machine. They're all playing RDR, Call of Duty, Fifa, Spiderman, right now while Swicht will get pokemon and smash that they don't give a damm.

Your main console has to be the console where you can find everything, shooters, sports, big triple a, big world, 4k graphics, backwards compatibility (either like xbox or PS now), apps, blu-ray, etc. Your main console is a console filled with entertainment features, all types of games, good prices and all the games that you can find on all other platforms. Switch is just it's own thing. Nintendo is selling its own product for its own market.

Of course the op will say that everything we're saying here is just our own tastes and opinions and that they're talking about games and not things like blu-ray and that graphics doesn't matter, and that they can have all the nintendo goodness and have a ps4 for the rest and in the end i don't think this thread has much sense honestly.

But still, nsw is more like it's own thing. it's not a modern console. doesn't look like one, doesn't have all the features, doesn't have all the games, doesn't have all the good prices.

Sigh so much wrong with this post.

 

Your main console is the one you buy and play most of your games on.  For me and many others, that is Switch.  I get more game time due to the portability of the device so I choose to game on it more.

 

I have a PS4 Pro as a side console  so I got my plat in God of War, beat Persona 5, RE7, Horizon, and got RDR2.  After I get the experiences the Switch does not have however, I go back to gaming on Switch because the versatility of it makes all the difference in the world.

 

Most of my gaming time this year goes to Ys VIII, Octopath Traveller, Dragonball FighterZ (double dipped this one), Wolfenstein 2, Valkeria Chronicles 4, Xenoblade Torna, etc.

 

Also what is a "big" game?  Marketed to a certain extent?  All of those games I listed above are just as good or better than most "big" games this year (Battlefield V and Fallout 4 anyone?).  Perhaps you are a bit narrow minded when it comes to what makes a quality game, but that is not my loss.  Heck in both quality and quantity, Switch has delivered more exclusive games in under 2 years than PS4 did in two entire years, and most of its games were on PS3 during that time as well.

 

If those things are important to you, that is fine.  Nothing is wrong with that.  But there is also nothing wrong with many people choosing portability and versatility over those things as well.  There are more than enough current gen games on Switch to support that, even without the overhyped "big" games out there.  Both consoles are equally viable pending on what the person in question needs.

 

What defines a primary console is none of what you describe, and the fact that you think otherwise is puzzling to say the least.  What defines a primary console is its ability to meet your gaming needs and what you game on most.  Nothing more and nothing less.

If it's none of what i describe, what's the point of this thread? If it's subjective, your thread is just kinda pointless. your main console is nintendo my main is ps4 and let's close the thread.

at least we can agree that your thread has nothing of constructive rational debate, is just you being subjective and saying that everybody is subjective. you can change this thread into "why i love switch". that would make more sense.

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0D0 on 05 December 2018
Nozz-A-La said:
Shiken said:

Ok, so far I have seen no valid argument over why the Switch cannot be a viable primary console option in general, only subject reasons that only account for their own needs.

"lack of major 3rd party games"

Most of these games are only big in advertising, as it does not rquate to quality.  How many times have major releases disappointed this gen?  Also there are plenty of other 3rd party games that are just as good on Switch, just without the advertising that the "bigger" games have.  I have listed a few of them countless times already.

Point is, there will always be something to play.

"I do not care about portability"

Thats nice, but just as many people do.  Myself for example is a result of it giving me double the playtime that my PS4 offers.  This allows me to play more games on Switch, making my PS4 Pro my SIDE console.

The bigger library is a pointless thing FOR ME if I will play and finish more games on the Switch anyway.  Time to play is everything, and the Switch has a solid library overall so far in of itself.  There was never a time I felt like I had nothing to play, and even picked up games that I had previously skipped on PS4 due to those very time constraints.  Being on Switch made that possible for me.

"online sucks"

Yes it does.  Not to a point where it makes the system unviable, but yes it does suck.  No argument from me on this.

"Too many ports"

The Switch is less than 2 years old, and it already has more exclusive games in quality and quantity than the PS4 and X1 did during their entire first 2 years.  Furthermore most of the games during that period were cross gen, offering little incentive to buy a PS4 at the time (remember the PS4 has no gamez memes?).

Did this make the PS4 any less viable if a main console for you, or does that only apply to Nintendo devices?  Hell the PS4 was even a jump from free online on PS3 to paid online on PS4.  The free games sucked as well, only recently have they hotten better.  At least Nintendo gives us ports of current gen games that can be taken on the go, alongside great exclusives out of the gate.

"No games that cater to me"

Can be made for any console.  Switch has more playformers and Metroidvania games, and will likely have the most Japanese support moving forward.  Not to mention the games that support local multiplayer in comparison to the ither two.  One of the most subjective points yet.

"less visual performance"

That is a trade off for portability.  Do not like it and do not like Nintendo games, go with PS4 or X1.  This makes it no less viable for others though

These are the main points I am seeing and the only thing they do is make you look closed off in your own little bubble.  Your needs are not the needs of everyone, and so far no evidence has been given to why the PS4 or X1 are more viable as a main console than the Switch.

With that logic every console can possibly be a main console..

What console can't be a viable primary console in your eyes?

The op has zero logic (not that it's a problem or that he's just unable to be logical), but he's as subjective as everybody else, or perhaps I don't understand the point of this thread.



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Mnementh on 05 December 2018
0D0 said:
Shiken said:

Sigh so much wrong with this post.

 

Your main console is the one you buy and play most of your games on.  For me and many others, that is Switch.  I get more game time due to the portability of the device so I choose to game on it more.

 

I have a PS4 Pro as a side console  so I got my plat in God of War, beat Persona 5, RE7, Horizon, and got RDR2.  After I get the experiences the Switch does not have however, I go back to gaming on Switch because the versatility of it makes all the difference in the world.

 

Most of my gaming time this year goes to Ys VIII, Octopath Traveller, Dragonball FighterZ (double dipped this one), Wolfenstein 2, Valkeria Chronicles 4, Xenoblade Torna, etc.

 

Also what is a "big" game?  Marketed to a certain extent?  All of those games I listed above are just as good or better than most "big" games this year (Battlefield V and Fallout 4 anyone?).  Perhaps you are a bit narrow minded when it comes to what makes a quality game, but that is not my loss.  Heck in both quality and quantity, Switch has delivered more exclusive games in under 2 years than PS4 did in two entire years, and most of its games were on PS3 during that time as well.

 

If those things are important to you, that is fine.  Nothing is wrong with that.  But there is also nothing wrong with many people choosing portability and versatility over those things as well.  There are more than enough current gen games on Switch to support that, even without the overhyped "big" games out there.  Both consoles are equally viable pending on what the person in question needs.

 

What defines a primary console is none of what you describe, and the fact that you think otherwise is puzzling to say the least.  What defines a primary console is its ability to meet your gaming needs and what you game on most.  Nothing more and nothing less.

If it's none of what i describe, what's the point of this thread? If it's subjective, your thread is just kinda pointless. your main console is nintendo my main is ps4 and let's close the thread.

at least we can agree that your thread has nothing of constructive rational debate, is just you being subjective and saying that everybody is subjective. you can change this thread into "why i love switch". that would make more sense.

If the threads point is "why I love switch", why you and others are so supremely pissed about this thread? Why you don't just walk by, say "you love switch, I love PS4" and go on?



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