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AngryLittleAlchemist said:

This thread IS really poor because it's essentially baiting for replies that you knew would suck. Either that or you just didn't think this through at all. However considering how this thread is set up, it doesn't seem that way. I'm not saying you have bad intentions, but I think subconsciously you were looking for an outlet to defend Nintendo against a criticism that honestly is pretty rare. 

For example, your OP states: 

"Instead of just making a long list of points to counter what is most commonly argued for the contrary, lets play a game."

then in your first and only reply to another person: 

"Replies like this make it evident that you have no real counter to the various points that have been made."

What points? You said it yourself, you didn't make any points in the OP! You expected other people to do the work for you by either reading every reply in the thread or starting the discussion in the first place (because a referee shooting a gun in the air doesn't start a race until the people actually begin to run), so that they can argue against a position you hold that they can't reasonably argue against because you didn't explain the position at all. Your OP doesn't state any valuable arguments, so it's impossible for people to argue with it, because no points were made.

Not only that, but you had to know that the people who would counter this would be irrational, because you yourself state:

"Also note, that I am speaking of the Switch in general.  Everyone is different and will need different criteria to meet their gaming needs.  So arguments like, "I do not care about portability" are null and void, because this is about why the Switch is just as viable as any other console as a primary, not why it does not meet your personal needs."

If someone who is a rational person, is going to argue against a subjective claim ("the Switch is a viable primary console"), how would they do so without at least recognizing that their counter-claim would be subjective? They can't. So you're essentially closing discussion to only fit people who are irrational. Is that really that different from baiting someone by using their personal bias against them? Rational commentators do not go on to write in every Nintendo thread about how Switch is not a viable main platform. In fact, most irrational posters don't either. I've only seen this type of comment made like 9 times since joining this site, which is in the span of almost 2 years, and 3 of them are in this thread (and they're not even outright saying it, so it's debatable it's more like 6). 

Again, I don't think you're doing it on purpose, I just think you didn't think through the implications. 


It is obviously a thread to just show love for Switch or call out possible detractors, you can read the whole thread and there isn't much debate besides OP doing what he said wouldn't do.



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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
OTBWY said: 

I don't think it matters much what kind of thread it is, the (i'm guessing) purpose is to get a conversation going, which it clearly accomplished to some degree. However, people are free to not engage in the conversation, so I don't see how the responsibility falls on him to be responsible for what users post, irrational or otherwise. A troll thread would have been way more obvious and dear God have we seen a lot of those on this here website.


It doesn't matter what kind of thread it is? ... That's literally what the pretenses of the thread would be. Of course it matters. And like I said, I don't think that the OP's point was to bait people. But the affect is practically the same. The thread is pretty lame. 97% of it is just "I agree". The other 3% is the unreasonable part or the part that gets shut down with one reply. That's not really discussion. Which is the expected affect when your OP is of that quality. So noting is really being discussed. I mean, people are *talking* but the result isn't a real discussion. The only reasonable comments so far are "I agree". 

Honestly who cares. If Sheiken wants that kind of thread, it's his thread and his choice. Nobody is forcing anyone to participate in any thread. If you think it is an interesting subject but the OP is lame, make a better one. I think it is worth it. As for discussion, I think that is what kind of went on (maybe more a dialectic but harmless) but I guess our opinion on it differs. I think the "I agree" is somewhat unfair but fair do's. Nothing wrong with just having a conversation in these threads, unless they devolve into shouting matches. Then the mods can step in.



Shiken said:

Ok quick reply to your two main points.  When I replied to the guy, he straight up called me annoying.  Ok cool, I am thick skinned, NP.  But what this implied was that maybe he was annoyed with my responses and failed to add anything contructive to the discussion.  Admittedly however, I was working when I made that reply and maybe I jumped the gun.  If so, my bad.

 

To the next point, I was simply trying to nip in the butt the bias arguments of only looking at their own point of view.  The point of the thread is to illustrate how the Switch is just as viable as a primary platform as any of the others based on the needs of the gamer.  What it is NOT about is trying to discredit any of the other platforms, but highlight that many gamers have different needs.  You have to admit, there is an abundance of people who would dismiss the viability of a platform to "real gamers" because of their own bias.  As you can tell by the replies however, it did not work (to be fair, it should have been obvious it wouldn't lol).

If you wanted to nip that in the butt you should have wrote a thread that began with constructive arguments. You get what you give. The problem with doing it in this method is that it's almost like a poll with no context. It doesn't really offer anything of substance. Now that being said, if that's your intention and you're aware of that, go for it. But I always write my critiques assuming that someone wasn't aware of why an argument or idea didn't make sense, and that clearing it up would make them understand the error. Which I think is essentially how most people write arguments.

I'm just bringing this to your attention, because I don't want to see good users that make threads in which, if the user in question was different, the motivations or contents of the thread would be an instant red flag. You don't have to agree with the criticism or take it to heart.



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This may have been addressed by earlier posts ,but the simple fact is if you own multiple consoles the title of primary console is easily definable by use , that's if you want to label things, the one thing I feel being overestimated is people denying Switch can be your primary console , just about every time multiple consoles are bought up it's usually along the lines of someone mentioning such and such being their primary console and the order tends to be as variable as the people and the number of consoles mentioned, I can't recall any talk that Switch should not be used in such examples.



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Pemalite said:
Has absolutely no notable Real-Time Strategy games.

None of them have text based choose your own adventure RPGs like Radical Dreamers either...

 

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