it worth noting that the last article from nintendo/business wire for December LTD  was spot on. 

Not the same 5 days, no..., please stop giving bad info. Those numbers are from different days....

It's amusing being able to tell the people who only read the title/PR spin and the people who are actually trying to understand the data.

If that 8.2 mil LTD US sales is even close to accurate, that's not a great start for the holidays.

So it's like 900k for november up until now?

Well there is a third option that Benji pointed out:  PS4 and Xbone are actually comfortably *down*.  Benji and others like him track through extrapolation based on data they have.  The accuracy is dependent on properly understanding the marketshare they are accounting for in the stores they track.  It's entirely possible that what looked like a very strong year in hardware was actually fairly mediocre overall.   But the people providing estimates underestimated the marketshare they were tracking and thus overestimated the total sales happening across the industry.

I don't believe in benji data honestly, ever since he said switch had a chance to win last november and it got out sold by nearly a million, i'm just not a believer and if these numbers are true, he should stop. 

All he said this month:

- Switch had a huge boost YoY in regards to BF week (proven true)
- Switch was outselling the PS4 earlier in the month
- PS4 had a huge BF week but at best will be sorta flat for the month or down a bit
- PS4 probably takes the month still but by a narrower margin than last year
- Xbox likely down YoY

All of these can be true, and switch still sell 1-1.2 million. 

Switch selling about as expected, should be pretty close to my prediction. Switch will have to rely heavily on December.

he said switch is up tremendously he way over hyped switch sales imo, saying stuff like the people that underestimated switch holidays RIP. 1 million with cyber money included unlike last year means its only up slightly up. i mean h'es been hyping switch sales all month like crazy that he actually convinced me a little.

Come on now, he's even perplexed at those results if true.

Again, all statements he said could still be true. It will be interesting at the end of the day. The key thing he was highlighting is the gap isn't as big as last year this whole month.