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Angelv577 said:
piggychan said:

I'm not surprised with the Witcher 3.  The Xbox one X patch has caused a lot of graphical glitches and seems like they too busy with cyberpunk to fix it now.

Really?  Didn't know anything about that

That X1X/Pro patch came about a year ago though. At this point I imagine they addressed some bugs.

I also haven't heard complaints outside of this really, so I imagine its a mostly bug free experience.



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Mr Puggsly said:
piggychan said:
also Mr Puggsly if you haven't got it yet; RDR2

Oh yes, I'm well aware of RDR2 after watching the Digital Foundry videos.

I haven't really been in the mood for that though, so many open world games recently. I've been playing more linear action stuff and Forza Horizon 4 at the moment.

I do plan on getting it though.

Final Fantasy XIII trilogy then especially the first one as you can't get more linear than that.  MS even went through the trouble of upgrading the video quality and it really shows!

 

 

even the in game stuff looks a lot better than the original 360 576p



smroadkill15 said:
vivster said:
How can 60fps be more enjoyable if the human eye can't even see faster than 24fps?

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. 

Then you haven't been here long enough.



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Why didn't you buy GTX 1060 or RX 580.



Oneeee-Chan!!! said:
Why didn't you buy GTX 1060 or RX 580.

I don't think it would fit in my Xbox One S.



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John2290 said:
Buy a 4k TV. Pretty minimal improvments without it. Especially for the price tag. Same with pro, unless you plan on getting a 4k TV or have a PSVR, there is no need to buy it unless you want to future proof or have a very slightly, sharper image on some first party games and a faster UI experience.

Entirely dependent on the users visual acuity of course, how large the display is... And how far they sit from the display.

I am personally fine with 1440P and just downsampling from 4k. - Especially if it means higher framerates and a display with better contrast/HDR.

The Xbox One X does allow for better lighting, shadowing, texturing, anti-aliasing, framerates, frame pacing and resolution over the base Xbox One regardless of resolution you operate at, so minimal improvements is a bit of a stretch. - In-fact you get everything sans-native output resolution. - And even then on a 1080P display, allot of Xbox One games aren't native 1080P titles anyway, so you get a resolution uptick there as well.

Mr Puggsly said:

I hear ya, but I find some of those LOD and animation problems less jarring on the X1X. Especially in Warzone Firefight where this game was visually at its worse. However, the boosted resolution and super sampling has made the assets look amazing in comparison of the base hardware. I would love a patch for Halo 5 that trades resolution for better LOD and animations from a distance, but I argue the game still looks fantastic as is. Maybe we won't see that all addressed until a new Xbox or a real PC port.

I'm a fan of BC so any performance and resolution improvement are certainly a bonus. I just wish it gave all 360 games a resolution boost.

I think they just traded visual fidelity for resolution, it is what it is I guess.

I would rather a lower resolution but better graphics, framerate is a super big focus with Halo 5, so it's good that it's 60fps regardless of console you play it on.

Mr Puggsly said:

An X1X is a good move for more PC visual fidelity without actually changing platforms.

When the Xbox One launched it was roughly equivalent to a mid-range PC in terms of graphics output... However, the PC didn't stop progressing (it never does) and of course it fell behind.
The Xbox One X just brings the Xbox platform back up to parity with a mid-range PC.

If you have already invested in the Xbox platform as a whole, then the Xbox One X makes sense, just like if you are invested in the Playstation 4 platform, the Pro might make more sense.



Mr Puggsly said:
Dulfite said:
I bought a steam link for like $4 and can play my beast PC on my projector in the basement with a 360 controller.

Hmmm, now that you mention it I could stream X1X from a PC to my projector.

Not a bad idea, thanks for mentioning that.

Yeah it is amazing. I get occasional lag, but overall it is a great experience.



Dulfite said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Hmmm, now that you mention it I could stream X1X from a PC to my projector.

Not a bad idea, thanks for mentioning that.

Yeah it is amazing. I get occasional lag, but overall it is a great experience.

Perhaps I'm just a simpleton, yet I simply move the console to my projector when I want to play on that, It only needs a standard power cable and hdmi cable, and you get to enjoy uncompressed 7.1 audio with uncompressed lag free picture quality. The idea of watching compressed video on a projector defeats the point of blowing the image up that big!

Why get the most powerful console and then compress the picture :) I have streamed games to my laptop as a convenient extra screen (alt-tabbing back and forth for those slow games) yet on a projector you don't want any compression artifacts.

Actually I had to, to get the Dreamcast working on my old CRT projector at the end of the 90's. However that was not streaming. DC to video capture card on PC, upscaled to 800x600 and send as S-VHS signal to the CRT projector. For some reason the projector didn't recognize the composite video output of the Dreamcast. Nowadays it's just pure laziness to accept lower quality instead of hooking things up directly. Plus the DC to capture card, upscale, to S-VHS, to CRT projector still had far less lag than any streaming solution. The ways in which tech doesn't advance :)



SvennoJ said:
Dulfite said:

Yeah it is amazing. I get occasional lag, but overall it is a great experience.

Perhaps I'm just a simpleton, yet I simply move the console to my projector when I want to play on that, It only needs a standard power cable and hdmi cable, and you get to enjoy uncompressed 7.1 audio with uncompressed lag free picture quality. The idea of watching compressed video on a projector defeats the point of blowing the image up that big!

Why get the most powerful console and then compress the picture :) I have streamed games to my laptop as a convenient extra screen (alt-tabbing back and forth for those slow games) yet on a projector you don't want any compression artifacts.

Actually I had to, to get the Dreamcast working on my old CRT projector at the end of the 90's. However that was not streaming. DC to video capture card on PC, upscaled to 800x600 and send as S-VHS signal to the CRT projector. For some reason the projector didn't recognize the composite video output of the Dreamcast. Nowadays it's just pure laziness to accept lower quality instead of hooking things up directly. Plus the DC to capture card, upscale, to S-VHS, to CRT projector still had far less lag than any streaming solution. The ways in which tech doesn't advance :)

I failed to mention I don't have the console lol. I'm streaming from my PC.



Angelv577 said:

Well I bought the xb1 X last week and I am bit disappointed as well because I don't see that much d8fference between the pro and X. I am still glad I will be able to play some games at 60fps such as gears 4 which IMO looks better at 1080p 60fps than 4k 30fps. It is my bad because I expected more on native 4k or maybe my eyes got used to higher resolution. I bought the witcher 3 to play it at 60fps as well since again, native 4k doesn't look that impressive to me.  I do have a 4ktv with hdr.

Well that always depends how far you're sitting away from the screen.
When I play a 4k game, I usually sit directly in front of my 70" TV. (just a bit over 1m). For anything else (FullHD content) I sit on my couch which is roughly 3m away from screen.

even then, don't expect the difference to be massive if you compare 4k to whatever PS4 Pro usually renders at.