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Innovation and thinking outside the box is their pedigree, so I imagine it could be something never seen before.



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Console cycles are a stupid outdated byproduct of the 1980s when the industry was all kiddies, break the wheel Nintendo. Don't have a cycle where you have to reset to zero create a new cycle that's more like the one Apple has for iPhones/iPads and just create a continuous ever amassing library that simply has new hardware models coming out every 2-3 years. Player can upgrade when ever the time is right for them.

Just like Switch shattered the paradigm of what is a home console and what is a portable system, the "console cycle" shit of 5-6 years can go too. If I'm Nintendo I'm not resetting at 5-6 years back to zero. Fuck that noise. Especially when you have no second system to fall back on. Where is the upside for me as a business. A company that has a successful hardware product has nothing to gain and everything to lose in most of these cases. 

Make it more like PC where there are no real generations, a person just upgrades their GPU when ever they feel like that and games gradually scale to a point where an older GPU simply can't run some newer games. It's smarter business wise, console generation transitions have been nothing but trouble for Nintendo most of the time. 

It's not 1988 anymore, the market is not 90% children who rely on their parents to buy them all their games. It's time for this cycle to come into 2018 and be more like every other popular electronic product. 

The PS4 Pro and XBox One X have also changed the game for the what Sony/MS do, Nintendo should go even further. I bet MS probably will too. There will be more than just 2 versions of the next XBox, we're likely gonna see hardware refreshes every 2 years soon enough. 

Last edited by Soundwave - on 27 November 2018

Soundwave said:

Console cycles are a stupid outdated byproduct of the 1980s when the industry was all kiddies, break the wheel Nintendo. Don't have a cycle where you have to reset to zero create a new cycle that's more like the one Apple has for iPhones/iPads and just create a continuous ever amassing library that simply has new hardware models coming out every 2-3 years. Player can upgrade when ever the time is right for them.

Just like Switch shattered the paradigm of what is a home console and what is a portable system, the "console cycle" shit of 5-6 years can go too. If I'm Nintendo I'm not resetting at 5-6 years back to zero. Fuck that noise. Especially when you have no second system to fall back on. Where is the upside for me as a business. A company that has a successful hardware product has nothing to gain and everything to lose in most of these cases. 

Make it more like PC where there are no real generations, a person just upgrades their GPU when ever they feel like that and games gradually scale to a point where an older GPU simply can't run some newer games. It's smarter business wise, console generation transitions have been nothing but trouble for Nintendo most of the time. 

It's not 1988 anymore, the market is not 90% children who rely on their parents to buy them all their games. It's time for this cycle to come into 2018 and be more like every other popular electronic product. 

The PS4 Pro and XBox One X have also changed the game for the what Sony/MS do, Nintendo should go even further. I bet MS probably will too. There will be more than just 2 versions of the next XBox, we're likely gonna see hardware refreshes every 2 years soon enough. 

No one mentioned starting from zero, but there will always be that in some point you have much bigger difference. For instance look at Sony and MS, they have Pro and X but PS5 and X2 will be next gen consoles despite they will not start from zero.

Also Nintendo, there will be next gen Switch most likely, but offocurse they will not start from zero, they will almost certain keep Nvidia + ARM.



PortisheadBiscuit said:
Innovation and thinking outside the box is their pedigree, so I imagine it could be something never seen before.

I don't think that'll be the case. They'll stick with the Switch so-long as its a compelling product design. Recall what happened with the Wii U: instead of releasing a Wii HD, they tried to shoe-horn a half-baked concept into it. The Wii U ended up ugly and cumbersome looking compared to the Wii... even the OS of the Wii U was unforgivably sluggish. It came out both too late and with too large of a price point, and failed badly.

While it can be argued that perhaps that failure led to the Switch (as a positive), I felt that direction was an eventuality considering the stress on the dev resources to support two platforms. I think the relevant point is that a more conservative Wii HD coming out in 2010 would have been significantly more successful than the Wii U. It could have been more powerful, or the same power, and cut down a lot in price and dev time because the Gamepad and different OS wouldn't have been required.

Sorry about the kind of off-topic rant (I'm sure to have angered people with my bashing of the Wii U and Gamecube, and perhaps angered still more with my praise of the Wii) - but it ties into this: Nintendo learned their lesson with the failure of the Wii U - just as they learned their lesson about trying to make a "baby" version of the competing consoles with the Gamecube. So, at that point we agree - that they are at their best when innovating, but at the same time, they should learn to be conservative when it is beneficial to do so - the Switch is the best at what it does, and an upgraded version of it may do it better.



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It should be Switch 2, and unless Switch is going to receive upgrades, it'll be replaced a lot sooner than people in here are hoping. Really they should make it an iterative console, simply release a new generation of Switch as they do with the IPhone while continuing to support all old models until it's no longer feasible and then phase them out.

They should release an updated Switch every 3 years and support each Switch model for 6 years before phasing it out, I'd like to see PlayStation and Xbox do the same.



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I can't even imagine what Nintendo is planning next really.



People keep bringing up how early it is, but that's not the point here. It's just to imagine what could be. Of course the new console should release in 2023 or something but what would it be. I have a feeling mobile processing will get much stronger in that time frame. A 1440p screen seems ludicrous but I can easily see 1080P with 4k. The biggest problem I see is with batteries. Maybe graphene battery tech improves and ninty uses that to make a much sleaker, better battery and still stronger switch 2. No one even talked about new joycons. I would love for them to innovate in that department since they can do so much. Maybe next joycons have a more rounded ergonomic shape to them and an accessory that makes them feel like actual big controllers rather than mini versions. I'm trying to think how they can innovate and maybe they add a feature where there switch connects wirelessly to the TV and and uses both the switch screen and TV screen in some way like an actual; Wii u but again battery is a big issue plus latency. Thinking of that, will it be ever possible to do that? I think that would be a nice goal to have for the future like maybe switch 3 or 4 if it lasts that long. How long do you think until streaming becomes so prominent that traditional consoles become an afterthought? Like project stream is crazy good and only requires 25 mbps



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Lets see.....

No new gimmicks, just a more powerfull Switch
Out in 2022?
1080p in Handheld mode, and 1440p in Docked Mode (only for Nintendo 1st party titles)
Name = Switch 2



Just give me a Switch Phone. Everything else about the Switch is perfect.

A Switch Phone with a Smaller Form Factor, a Solid State Battery, and a 7nm revision of the Terga for better Efficiency, Battery draw, and Heat.

A 7nm Terga and a Solid State Battery should be enough for 24 hours of Gaming, or a week of Youtube.

Make it pocketable, and it would be the perfect Mobile Gaming device.

I wouldalso like to see a Stand alone VR unit on the same platform as Switch, and an upgraded Switch Hybrid/Tablet.

The next Switch Tablet upgrade (the Pro/X version of the current model), should have an edge to edge screen, making it the same size as the current model, but with more screen space. Through in a 7nm Tegra with twice the CPU and GPU power, double the RAM and Bandwidth, and throw in a Solid State Battery, and you have a perfect Switch upgrade.

Honestly a Switch upgrade should be able to more than double the Switch in power since it would be going from 20nm to 7nm. It would be more in line with the jump from PS4 to PS5, than PS4 to PS4 Pro.

That's what I want.

And, like Soundwave said, get over generations. Switch should be the platform going forward. Just build on it from here on out. It should be the foundation of all products going forward. Give people options and let them upgrade at their own pace. After 6 years drop support for the OG Switch on new titles. Follow the winning fomula. If Nintendo does this, and releases a Switch Phone they will take over the mobile market in Japan. Switch could sell 50M+ in Japan alone.



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I think we will see a mid-gen refresh for the current Switch similar to the New 3DS, dropping the price of the current model.
It probably wont do 4k, but will have better battery life, manage more constitent framerates and higher resolutions across the board and give a little bit more headroom for ports.
It would probably get a few exclusives, but nothing world shattering, again much like the the New3DS.

I don't think Nintendo is dropping the hybrid Idea anytime soon, so I'd expect a proper successor to the Switch to arrive 2023/2024 and retain a similar formfactor.
Better screen and chip, possibly native 4k support, wich by 2024 should be much more widespread. We will see what kind of chip it will have, but mobile chipsets are becoming insanely powerful, so if Nvidia actually develops a custom chip, optimized for the Switch 2 we might see a decent generational leap, even over the mid-gen refresh.

If they retain backwards conpatibility, they can still drop the current Switch model further in price and make it an ultra budget machine.