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Well like earliest possible when next gen Nintendo console can arrive is 2022. more realistic 2023-2024. so this talk is way premature, I mean we still dont know what current Switch will bring us with revisions.

But, I am certain that Nintendo will continue with Switch, so most likely we will have Switch 2, they will definitely have some new gimmick also (very possible AR/VR support) and they will keep to Nvidia + ARM. Also its way to premature to talk how powerful could be because in around 5 years we dont know what kind of mobile chips we will have (much stronger than current ones in any case).



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Innovation and thinking outside the box is their pedigree, so I imagine it could be something never seen before.



Console cycles are a stupid outdated byproduct of the 1980s when the industry was all kiddies, break the wheel Nintendo. Don't have a cycle where you have to reset to zero create a new cycle that's more like the one Apple has for iPhones/iPads and just create a continuous ever amassing library that simply has new hardware models coming out every 2-3 years. Player can upgrade when ever the time is right for them.

Just like Switch shattered the paradigm of what is a home console and what is a portable system, the "console cycle" shit of 5-6 years can go too. If I'm Nintendo I'm not resetting at 5-6 years back to zero. Fuck that noise. Especially when you have no second system to fall back on. Where is the upside for me as a business. A company that has a successful hardware product has nothing to gain and everything to lose in most of these cases. 

Make it more like PC where there are no real generations, a person just upgrades their GPU when ever they feel like that and games gradually scale to a point where an older GPU simply can't run some newer games. It's smarter business wise, console generation transitions have been nothing but trouble for Nintendo most of the time. 

It's not 1988 anymore, the market is not 90% children who rely on their parents to buy them all their games. It's time for this cycle to come into 2018 and be more like every other popular electronic product. 

The PS4 Pro and XBox One X have also changed the game for the what Sony/MS do, Nintendo should go even further. I bet MS probably will too. There will be more than just 2 versions of the next XBox, we're likely gonna see hardware refreshes every 2 years soon enough. 

Last edited by Soundwave - on 27 November 2018

Soundwave said:

Console cycles are a stupid outdated byproduct of the 1980s when the industry was all kiddies, break the wheel Nintendo. Don't have a cycle where you have to reset to zero create a new cycle that's more like the one Apple has for iPhones/iPads and just create a continuous ever amassing library that simply has new hardware models coming out every 2-3 years. Player can upgrade when ever the time is right for them.

Just like Switch shattered the paradigm of what is a home console and what is a portable system, the "console cycle" shit of 5-6 years can go too. If I'm Nintendo I'm not resetting at 5-6 years back to zero. Fuck that noise. Especially when you have no second system to fall back on. Where is the upside for me as a business. A company that has a successful hardware product has nothing to gain and everything to lose in most of these cases. 

Make it more like PC where there are no real generations, a person just upgrades their GPU when ever they feel like that and games gradually scale to a point where an older GPU simply can't run some newer games. It's smarter business wise, console generation transitions have been nothing but trouble for Nintendo most of the time. 

It's not 1988 anymore, the market is not 90% children who rely on their parents to buy them all their games. It's time for this cycle to come into 2018 and be more like every other popular electronic product. 

The PS4 Pro and XBox One X have also changed the game for the what Sony/MS do, Nintendo should go even further. I bet MS probably will too. There will be more than just 2 versions of the next XBox, we're likely gonna see hardware refreshes every 2 years soon enough. 

No one mentioned starting from zero, but there will always be that in some point you have much bigger difference. For instance look at Sony and MS, they have Pro and X but PS5 and X2 will be next gen consoles despite they will not start from zero.

Also Nintendo, there will be next gen Switch most likely, but offocurse they will not start from zero, they will almost certain keep Nvidia + ARM.



It's not even been 2 years since the Switch has launched ... I'll take my sweet time living through this generation first before thinking about such thoughts.



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PortisheadBiscuit said:
Innovation and thinking outside the box is their pedigree, so I imagine it could be something never seen before.

I don't think that'll be the case. They'll stick with the Switch so-long as its a compelling product design. Recall what happened with the Wii U: instead of releasing a Wii HD, they tried to shoe-horn a half-baked concept into it. The Wii U ended up ugly and cumbersome looking compared to the Wii... even the OS of the Wii U was unforgivably sluggish. It came out both too late and with too large of a price point, and failed badly.

While it can be argued that perhaps that failure led to the Switch (as a positive), I felt that direction was an eventuality considering the stress on the dev resources to support two platforms. I think the relevant point is that a more conservative Wii HD coming out in 2010 would have been significantly more successful than the Wii U. It could have been more powerful, or the same power, and cut down a lot in price and dev time because the Gamepad and different OS wouldn't have been required.

Sorry about the kind of off-topic rant (I'm sure to have angered people with my bashing of the Wii U and Gamecube, and perhaps angered still more with my praise of the Wii) - but it ties into this: Nintendo learned their lesson with the failure of the Wii U - just as they learned their lesson about trying to make a "baby" version of the competing consoles with the Gamecube. So, at that point we agree - that they are at their best when innovating, but at the same time, they should learn to be conservative when it is beneficial to do so - the Switch is the best at what it does, and an upgraded version of it may do it better.



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It should be Switch 2, and unless Switch is going to receive upgrades, it'll be replaced a lot sooner than people in here are hoping. Really they should make it an iterative console, simply release a new generation of Switch as they do with the IPhone while continuing to support all old models until it's no longer feasible and then phase them out.

They should release an updated Switch every 3 years and support each Switch model for 6 years before phasing it out, I'd like to see PlayStation and Xbox do the same.



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I can't even imagine what Nintendo is planning next really.



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People keep bringing up how early it is, but that's not the point here. It's just to imagine what could be. Of course the new console should release in 2023 or something but what would it be. I have a feeling mobile processing will get much stronger in that time frame. A 1440p screen seems ludicrous but I can easily see 1080P with 4k. The biggest problem I see is with batteries. Maybe graphene battery tech improves and ninty uses that to make a much sleaker, better battery and still stronger switch 2. No one even talked about new joycons. I would love for them to innovate in that department since they can do so much. Maybe next joycons have a more rounded ergonomic shape to them and an accessory that makes them feel like actual big controllers rather than mini versions. I'm trying to think how they can innovate and maybe they add a feature where there switch connects wirelessly to the TV and and uses both the switch screen and TV screen in some way like an actual; Wii u but again battery is a big issue plus latency. Thinking of that, will it be ever possible to do that? I think that would be a nice goal to have for the future like maybe switch 3 or 4 if it lasts that long. How long do you think until streaming becomes so prominent that traditional consoles become an afterthought? Like project stream is crazy good and only requires 25 mbps



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Lets see.....

No new gimmicks, just a more powerfull Switch
Out in 2022?
1080p in Handheld mode, and 1440p in Docked Mode (only for Nintendo 1st party titles)
Name = Switch 2