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Platinum Games - Bayonetta 7 10.14%
 
From Software - Dark Souls, Bloodborne 19 27.54%
 
Codemasters - Grid, Dirt 1 1.45%
 
Kojima Productions - Death Stranding 20 28.99%
 
DontNod - Vampyr 0 0%
 
Others 14 20.29%
 
Multiple developers 8 11.59%
 
Total:69
twintail said:
dx11332sega said:
Quantic Dream wants to be bought? Sony this is your chance buy them If not then get rid of london studio for this better team i think?

Why would they get rid of London Studio?

"Bayonetta 2 would not exist without Nintendo". This is not an implication that they only asked Nintendo, but that no one else wanted to be involved, including Sony and MS.

http://www.tssznews.com/2014/03/03/platinum-games-explains-bayonetta-exclusivity-again/



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Intrinsic said:
How come no one has punched a hole in this guys theory so far?

Do you have any idea how many studios first and second party sony has under its belt. Even if MS acquires 5 studios it still wont be at par.

Sony does have a good number of studios. I'd say they have nine 1st party studios that have or will deliver a relatively big budget or AAA titles this gen.

Meanwhile MS has had about six if you include Playground and Undead Labs. However, MS may have an equal or larger number of 1st party studios making big budget games now. Curious to see if MS has their eye on other studios. Why stop now?



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NobleTeam360 said:

Does sony even need to buy new studios? MS 1st party has been horrible since 2010, so they really needed the new studios.

I think its more of a discussion on how is Sony going to respond. If Sony feels they have a strong 1st party at the moment, no need to buy more I guess.

You aren't wrong, MS's 1st party studios were pretty weak as they were relying heavily on 3rd party studios and they were getting notable content. Maybe they feel at this point they need more control of the studios creating their games.



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twintail said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

"Bayonetta 2 would not exist without Nintendo". This is not an implication that they only asked Nintendo, but that no one else wanted to be involved, including Sony and MS.

http://www.tssznews.com/2014/03/03/platinum-games-explains-bayonetta-exclusivity-again/

That quote doesn't state nor imply any connection to Sony/ MS at all.

At this point I'm not sure why you are double downing on your inability to actually prove your point.

If you had thought that it was possible Sony rejected Bayo 2 as opposed to stating that it's a fact, then you would have a leg to stand on.

Bayonetta 1 was on ps3/360, so they asked Nintendo before asking Sony/MS? Seem legit.



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Rogerioandrade said:
Game Freak and Intelligent Systems.....

LOL. Just kidding

Well, make that happen and I'll probably never have to buy Nintendo again.



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twintail said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

Bayonetta 1 was on ps3/360, so they asked Nintendo before asking Sony/MS? Seem legit.

Bayo 1 wasn't even done by Platinum. Anyhow, you are still arguing against points that no one else is even making. And you still can't even provide conclusive support for your original statement. 

But it is what it is. Cheers

Bayonetta 1 wasn't done by Platinum Games? 



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This is what I have to say to this thread:



"The competition looks pale in comparison"

Yeah, but no. Microsoft released a better Forza game that GT will ever be, and I don't even mention Nintendo which is killing it since last year with its exclusives, which are better rated for most of them, and sell very well.

Yup gotta totally agree with this post. Can't agree with OP at all. My thinking falls more in the line with CGI's in a previous post. Sony really doesn't need to do that much else atm



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twintail said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Bayonetta 1 wasn't done by Platinum Games? 

Contextually that comes across poorly. Bayo 1 for PS3 wasn't done by Platinum. They only developed for the 360 while SEGA/ Nex (?) handed the PS3 porting.

We both did that this week. Haha



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zkp said:
I'm reading comments and i can't believe what i see. Do you all really think that, Sony don't need more studios under them? They need it as much as like never had before.

Making games takes a lot more time than last generation and that's the fact. See Naughty Dog brought 3 uncharted games and one TLOU. Now PS4 has 5 years and ND made only U4 and stand alone expansion Lost Legacy very poor. And im sure that TLOU2 will be 2020 game which be crossgen with ps5. So 1 big game and 1 small vs 4 big games.

Santa Monica Bring us only one God of War game, ye i know they changed everything and reinvented whole series, but still its only one game and before this their new ip was cancelled. on PS3 we had God of War 3 and Ascension 2 big games.

Now our lovely Polyphony Digital which made only one Gran Turismo game for PS4 called Sport which is more Online focus than old ones, and for PS3 they made GT5 and 6 and probably one prologue? Im not sure. While Turn 10 made 3 Forza games and Playground did 2 Forza Horizon games with 90+ score thats pretty impresive. I know this games are copy paste but still they can make one racer game every 2 year.

Guerrilla Games made 2 games, Killzone:SF as a launch game for PS4 and Horizon Zero Dawn new ip in 2017 and one dlc. Its good enough i think, But it could be better.

Sony Bend well i don't know what to say, Days Gone taking them so much time and still don;t look as good as Tsushima. And DG is in development for a last 5 years. Now they are looking for people for unannounced title for ps5.

MM is a riddle for me. I don't know what to think about Dreams in one hand it looks very promising and can be most ambitious game made by Molecule, but in the other hands im not sure will this game sell well enough,


So conclusion is ND can't makes more than one game, and they have almost 500 employees., Guerilla Games got expansion for 100 employees right now. Santa Monica too from what i heard. But if this is enough? What about SOne Bend they are too small for big AAA games, same with Sucker Punch made only 1 Infamous game, and after 4 years past we dont know when Ghost of Tsushima will launch.

Yakuza series now is available on PC and in future can be on Xbox. Persona series can be go multiplatform tho. Supermassive making multiplatform game, Quantic Dream same.

Sony has strong connection with Insomniac, as good as MS with PLayground and still they decided to buy them. One day someone will buy Insomniac and Sony will have to forget about games from them. Whats then?

Sony have to expans they own studios, Sucker Punch, ND, Guerilla Games, Santa Monica, MM and others. Same they should acquire 1 or 2 new studios. It should be Kojima Productions and Quantic Dream for right now.

If ND not bring at least 3 games for PS5, GG 3 and Santa Monica 3 it will be problem.

 

  • Quantic Dream isn't making any multiplatform games.
  • Persona/Yakuza are owned by SEGA. Nothing Sony can do there.
  • Someone just 'buying Insomniac one day' is a random guess and based on nothing, really. They very much prefer their independence and Sony has a great relationship with them as a result.

 

There are just too many assumptions here and you speak like they are a company that has struggled with exclusive output. They have enough studios to get the job done. A few more wouldn't hurt, of course, but they aren't a necessity.

QD probably working on multiplatform title. they have did job listing including pc. 

Persona and Yakuza do not belong to Sony. I know it very well. But still in one day Persona will fly away to nintendo system, and probably XO too. It's all about money and if sony will not try keep away Atlus game from N and MS they will lose big JRPG title.

Ye exactly. They have fantastic relationships. Same as MS had with Playground and still MS decided to buy them. PG opened second team. Gush second Team!! and with MS support they will be able to making games after games. Every 2 years Forza Horizon + new ip and Fable if rumours are legit. 

 

Hell, even now The Coaliton will bring Gears 5 in 2019. We talking about Coalition, one of the newest MS studios this Generation. Wikpedia says they have around 200 employees while ND has almost 500. It is huge disproportion between The Coalitionand ND and  still they working on main Gears game, Gears for pc and for mobile. Where is TLOU2? It should have release date in next year and we all know that this game will be release in 2020 as a crossgen title.

 

"There are just too many assumptions here and you speak like they are a company that has struggled with exclusive output"

They are not? 1 ND game this generation, 1 QD game, 1 Santa Monica game, 2 games from Insomniac while one is a reboot of R&C series. and know game with Spider-man. For ps3 they  made Resistance trilogy, R&C future trilogy, some spin offs, 1 multiplatform title. I should better not talk about polyphony digital. 1 GT game against 3 FM games and 3 FH games. 

 

Same with Sucker Punch and  Infamous SS is like Killzone SF, nothing to be proud about, it's a well know IP and it not taking much time to make it.  Ghost of Tsushima should have release window next year. 

 

Everything we know right know is that, Santa Monica started working on GoW game for PS5, as well GG with Horizon 2, Bend Studio same, ND looking for african man for new ip. 

 

If they not expand their own studios and not try to buy at least 1 or 2 they will have hard time to compete with new MS Studios.