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Will Sony censor Catherine: Full Body and/or lose Persona as a Playstation exclusive?

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Will Atlus concede Persona 6 to Nintendo if and when Catherine: Full Body gets censored?

They'll censor Catherine:... 8 16.00%
 
They'll censor Catherine:... 9 18.00%
 
They'll censor Catherine:... 11 22.00%
 
Catherine: Full Body won'... 22 44.00%
 
Total:50

if catherine is censored i hope they get whats coming to them at that sjw office



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PAOerfulone said:

I think you'd be really surprised. Shin Megami Tensei has been kept mostly Nintendo exclusive, while Persona has been mostly PlayStation. If 1 can find a home in one system, there's no reason the other can't. Especially because Persona Q sold very well on the 3DS,  and Persona Q2 is doing well in pre-orders and should do good numbers for a 3DS game in 2018. And Persona 5 is one of the more heavily requested 3rd party ports for the Switch (A may be a little bias towards this point because that's THE port I want the most.) It doesn't seem like the Nintendo audience has any problem at all with those sort of games, or at least that series, and would be more than willing to buy if the game looks great and really enjoyable (i.e. Octopath Traveler). 

I wasn't talking about 3rd party JRPGs like SMT since the bigger budget ones also somehow manage to be somewhat mainstream but even JRPGs on Nintendo handhelds in general are far away from being a slam dunk in terms of commercial performance if media create numbers for recent Switch ports are anything to go by ... 

Catherine is a quirky Japanese puzzle game which has a different target demographic compared to many of the other 3rd party games Japanese games that release on Nintendo systems. It's a puzzle game that's rated M which is a concept that doesn't get much more dissimilar than what the Nintendo audience is frequently used to ... 

PAOerfulone said:


Even if what you say were true and the dedicated, die-hard Nintendo fans may not be into Persona games, Persona fans certainly are, and they'll go to whichever system has the game they want.
If Atlas decided to pack up the series and move it to Nintendo, the fans would go with them. If Persona 6 is a Nintendo Switch exclusive, most, if not all the people that bought a PS4 for Persona 5 are gonna buy a Switch for Persona 6, if they don't have one already.
It's like that old saying, one man's loss is another man's gain.
In that case, Sony's loss would be Nintendo's gain.

All in all that's a fairly presumptuous statement your making especially late in this generation when the PS4 has already established itself as the incumbent for 3rd party Japanese games and it especially applies for smaller developers as well since they see the best commercial performance on PS4 rather than the Switch. Sony's grip on Japanese 3rd party games is only going to get tighter next year with releases such as AC7, KH3, GE3, DoA 6, Jump Force, DMC 5, One Piece, Sekiro and well you get the idea since PS4 won't be seeing a shortage of 3rd party Japanese games in general ...

Even in the case of Persona, how do you suppose that it's a realistic option for Atlus to demand their customers transition to another platform by shelling out $300 just because the studio wanted to solely change their lead platform when the previous platform they've served is approaching 100M units in the short term and currently sells more than the competitors annually ?



I don't think the two games are linked, but I also don't think there's anything in Catherine to censor. A lot of the content is more suggestive than shown. Persona 5 was already multiplat though, so I don't understand that part of the question either.



KManX89 said:

With all the bullshit censorship Sony has undergone, it's almost a certainty that Catherine: Full Body will be censored as well on the CensorStation 4, and so where does that leave Persona 6 for the CensorStation 5? Will Atlus concede its only major Sony exclusive to Nintendo if and when it happens?

Honestly, a part of me hopes it does happen. Sony needs to learn a lesson in humility. If it takes losing a major exclusive franchise of theirs to learn that they have a lot more to lose by trying to appease non-gamers with their puritanical bullshit, then so be it, and it'll be to Nintendo, no way will it go to MS.

What games have been censored and in what way were the censored aspects similar to Catherine and Persona?  



fatslob-:O said:

I wasn't talking about 3rd party JRPGs like SMT since the bigger budget ones also somehow manage to be somewhat mainstream but even JRPGs on Nintendo handhelds in general are far away from being a slam dunk in terms of commercial performance if media create numbers for recent Switch ports are anything to go by ... 

Catherine is a quirky Japanese puzzle game which has a different target demographic compared to many of the other 3rd party games Japanese games that release on Nintendo systems. It's a puzzle game that's rated M which is a concept that doesn't get much more dissimilar than what the Nintendo audience is frequently used to ... 

All in all that's a fairly presumptuous statement your making especially late in this generation when the PS4 has already established itself as the incumbent for 3rd party Japanese games and it especially applies for smaller developers as well since they see the best commercial performance on PS4 rather than the Switch. Sony's grip on Japanese 3rd party games is only going to get tighter next year with releases such as AC7, KH3, GE3, DoA 6, Jump Force, DMC 5, One Piece, Sekiro and well you get the idea since PS4 won't be seeing a shortage of 3rd party Japanese games in general ...

Even in the case of Persona, how do you suppose that it's a realistic option for Atlus to demand their customers transition to another platform by shelling out $300 just because the studio wanted to solely change their lead platform when the previous platform they've served is approaching 100M units in the short term and currently sells more than the competitors annually ?

1) JRPGs have been successful and relevant on Nintendo dating back to the NES. Pokemon, Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Monster Hunter, the Chrono series, Kingdom Hearts, just about every major JRPG franchise in the book has a history with being on Nintendo systems. 1-3 year old ports of 3rd party games that have already been out on PS4 during that time isn't exactly the most ideal comparison. 

2) Didn't seem to stop other M rated games like Doom, or Wolfenstein, or Skyrim from making it on the Switch, and from what I recall, Bethesda was pretty pleased with the performances of those games. It sure as hell didn't stop Bayonetta from virtually becoming an unofficial Nintendo franchise despite its much, over the top, M rated nature. Bayonetta as a character is at the point where she's pretty much blurring the lines between 1st and 3rd party character. That was a combination of Platinum's development and Nintendo's publishing and marketing that established that franchise as a valuable one for Nintendo. Bayonetta 3 is one of the more highly anticipated Switch games alongside some of Nintendo's own 1st party offerings. So, if Atlus and Nintendo really wanted to, they could make the same happen for Catherine and Persona.

3) Monster Hunter fans didn't seem to have a problem in the long run with Monster Hunter World moving to PlayStation, Xbox, and PC. And Capcom certainly isn't complaining at all with their choice of platforms for their 1st 10 million seller. As long as the game looks amazing and it has what they expect and are hoping for from the next mainline entry, fans will learn to move past it.
Furthermore, there was a 8 year gap between Persona 4 and Persona 5. Even if the wait for Persona 6 were 2 years shorter, that would put it at a 2022 release date. The PS4 will be mostly  obsolete by that point and the fans will have moved on and expecting Persona 6 to launch on a newer, more relevant system, which at that point, for a game like Persona, will be the PS5 and the Switch (or Switch 2, though I highly doubt Nintendo will give the Switch a shorter life span than the 3DS.) 
The PS5 will likely be the #1 selling system (if Sony doesn't royally fuck up their reveal and launch like they did with the PS3 and Microsoft did with the Xbox One), but it still won't have an install base yet to match the Switch, which should still be selling respectfully well at a much cheaper price point with an install base that's also closer to 100m. 



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Is there any game censored so far that isn't an all age version of a 18+VN or Senran Kagura ?
Catherine is rated M so there is no reason to censor it.



KManX89 said:

With all the bullshit censorship Sony has undergone, it's almost a certainty that Catherine: Full Body will be censored as well on the CensorStation 4, and so where does that leave Persona 6 for the CensorStation 5? Will Atlus concede its only major Sony exclusive to Nintendo if and when it happens?

Honestly, a part of me hopes it does happen. Sony needs to learn a lesson in humility. If it takes losing a major exclusive franchise of theirs to learn that they have a lot more to lose by trying to appease non-gamers with their puritanical bullshit, then so be it, and it'll be to Nintendo, no way will it go to MS.

Please enlighten me, what exactly needs to be censored from P5 to make P6 leave a Sony device?

What exactly might be censored in Catherine?

iron_megalith said:

I hope Yoko Taro never works on Sony's future consoles. Fuck this company and its puritan standards.

I can believe I'm really actually planning on ditching any future Sony consoles.

Then don't buy anymore Sony products. 



I mean the PS4 is losing ground fast to the switch at this point, the only reason I see why most Japanese games are not multiplayer is because they've been in development for at least a couple years.



I don't think Persona will go anywhere. Catherine however, has a good possibility of being censored. Just looking at the recent situation I am convinced that theres attention to it at Sony's and Atlus's offices.



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I think you are overeaching.Quite a bit.First of all, lets just say that PS is not a censorstation.Yes, they made some shitty decisions in that regard, but its nothing earthshaterring.

Second, they wont and really cant touch the bigger titles, given that Atlus, and by extent Sega, are important publishers in the platform.They can do that for the smaller publishers that are also really explicitive with their content.