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PS4 Won October NPD (PS4 > NS > XBO)

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RJ_Sizzle said:
Xbox had a LOT of promotions last month too, some the likes I've never seen with consoles and they still came up short. At least they're up YoY though.

But we should probably expect a good drop since it was in November last year when the Xbone X released.



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colafitte said:

Everyone expecting Swith to obliterate PS4 this holiday season because what happened in December last year.....,are understimating PS4 again..., like always. Last year was last year, it had fewer stock and their main bundle was the failure Battlefront II was, XB X just launched and it was the first holiday for Breath of the Wild, Mario Kart 8 DX and Mario Odyssey. Now PS4 have RDR 2, COD BOPS 4, Spiderman, GOW, ....and it seems there is a lot more stock.

In my opinion PS4 is bound to have a record November NPD possibly around 2M sales, probably selling aroun 500k more than Switch that month and in December I expect PS4 way up YOY, so yes, Switch will win December because Smash and Pokemon but the difference won't be enough to surpass PS4. I won't be surprised if PS4 ends selling more NOV+DEC combined than Switch...

 

 

edit: And by the way, Switch won't reach 20M, not even close....Switch is no Wii. If it ends with 17M it will be a success.

They just never stop underestimating the ps4 do they. Year 5 it's still full steam ahead year 6 will be the same. It has sold well at 299 all year. The console could sell for the next 5 years if they wanted. Only thing stopping it is the ps5. 

RJ_Sizzle said:
Xbox had a LOT of promotions last month too, some the likes I've never seen with consoles and they still came up short. At least they're up YoY though.

Microsoft always go hard with the promos whenever a big ps4 pusher launches. It must really eat into their profit margins having to aggressively promote the xbox everytime a game like spiderman or rdr2 launches that sells ps4 without price promotions. 



JRPGfan said:

Prediction tool:
1 - NS : 1.0
2 - PS4 : 0.26
3 - XBO : 0.24


What actually happend:
1 - PS4: 1.34
2 - Switch: 1
3 - Xbox One: 0.8

You're using current (pre Black Friday) November ratios for the prediction tool, not October's.

See the actual October numbers here: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8912072

The tool was off, but not nearly as much as you are showing here.



Kerotan said:
RJ_Sizzle said:
Xbox had a LOT of promotions last month too, some the likes I've never seen with consoles and they still came up short. At least they're up YoY though.

Microsoft always go hard with the promos whenever a big ps4 pusher launches. It must really eat into their profit margins having to aggressively promote the xbox everytime a game like spiderman or rdr2 launches that sells ps4 without price promotions. 

Yeah. I kind of don't see the point in it. They're only buying their own market share which defeats the purpose. Everyone knows that the split for RDR2 is going to be hugely in favor of PS4 anyway.



Kerotan said:

They just never stop underestimating the ps4 do they. Year 5 it's still full steam ahead year 6 will be the same. It has sold well at 299 all year. The console could sell for the next 5 years if they wanted. Only thing stopping it is the ps5. 

Yup. PS4 is that console that for some reason everyone wants to underestimate. Like they just can't accept that people actually want a PS4.

I don't see it pulling these kinda numbers next year though, especially when rumors of a PS5 are in full swing or even an announcement. Then its sales will be tied to pricing alone. And how low can sony really go. 



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Megiddo said:
JRPGfan said:

Prediction tool:
1 - NS : 1.0
2 - PS4 : 0.26
3 - XBO : 0.24


What actually happend:
1 - PS4: 1.34
2 - Switch: 1
3 - Xbox One: 0.8

You're using current (pre Black Friday) November ratios for the prediction tool, not October's.

See the actual October numbers here: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8912072

The tool was off, but not nearly as much as you are showing here.

oh that actually makes it seem alot better.

1 - NS : 1.0
2 - XBO :  0.78
3 - PS4 : 0.66

Stilll it got the order totally wrong... PS4 was actually #1 not #3.



Sh1nn said: 
PS4 ~340K
NS ~255K
XBO ~226K

Thanks for doing the NPD thread Sh1nn. Would you please consider including an archive in the OP?

In the past, it was always easy and quick to find all numbers thanks to Boutros' archive that was included in OP of every single NPD thread.

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Why the 199$ ps4 not available worldwide.thats really dumb.



pxrocks said:
Why the 199$ ps4 not available worldwide.thats really dumb.

Because North America is the most competitive market would be my thoughts. They still see lots of potential new customers that they can pick up in the States. Whereas Europe is basically Sonyland and Japan is Nintendoland. Typically where there is the most competition there is the best deals.



I think Amazon is throwing all of the tools off. They might well have settled the spat, but it is obvious that they have way worse relations with Sony. The result of this is that demand might be 400k PS4s, 300k Switches and 200k Xboxes. It seems from the outside, that they are ignoring the demand, and ordering in 100k PS4s, 300k Switches and 400k Xboxes.

It makes no sense. It obviously happened last year the same way, except 200k PS4s to keep Amazon in the frame. Do Amazon believe they can change demand? Do Microsoft and maybe Nintendo have a stock Warehouse close to Amazon for the holidays to keep the flow much better? All it has probably done is decrease Amazon being a one stop mail order shop for a growing number of Sony buyers full stop. The tool is not a magic psychic predictive Thing. It shows trends, in the way a form guide and weather report help when gambling. With Amazon no longer having a good say on overall results it will have affect, mainly on the holidays. This Doesn't take away from Symbios hard work, or good discussion in the threads. It might well reflect those overall trends moving into next generation, because the thought process is good.