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outlawauron said:
thismeintiel said:

Agreed.  If anything, all of this points to a 2019 launch.  Early 2020 at the latest.  Sony isn't going to have a quiet 2019, while the Switch and XBO get all the press.  My guess is a early or mid 2019 announcement, with maybe a tour to show off what the system can do.  I think the point Sony is making by not being at E3 is that there are much cheaper, easier ways to bring their announcements to the world.  Streams and trailers that get millions of views.  Their own events that they can put on and completely control.  It's not like the gaming press is going to ignore them if they aren't at E3.

Must be a damn good spiral to go down.  Going to outsell MS by ~2.5:1 when all is said and done.  And it seems like they are getting a head start on next gen if these rumors are true.

Actions taken now reflect what will happen next generation. The return of arrogant Sony will not effect what has already happen, but opens a door of opportunity for either.


This is ridiculous. How is it arrogant if they even state they don't want to disappoint their fans, by not having enough new things to show? If anything that's humble and the opposite of arrogant. It would be arrogant if they boasted a huge show up for nothing. 

They have also stated that they have new and inventive plans, so you'll have to wait until you can call it anything atm.




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twintail said:

What makes you say that development would be difficult or that devs would not want to be part of it?

With the success of the PS4, and with ease of development at the core of it's design (compared to previous PS devices especially PS3) I am not convinced that Sony/ AMD would go with something that is not easy to code for. 

Not saying it will be difficult (like PS3 levels); however, Nvidia has made it very difficult for AMD to compete in the graphics space. I don't know if you remember direct X 10.1 where AMD cards showed a great improvement over Nvidia at that time, but it was silently dropped by developers, Why? Well look up Nvidia practices. It's very difficult to compete when your competitor holds the narrative. AMD has been fighting an uphill battle when benchmarks and software favor your competitor's technology over their own; but what if there was a place where AMD could squeeze itself in and promote its technology, enter the consoles; which is why I am very excited for the PS5. This partnership between Sony and AMD engineers could prove quite interesting. I'm sure they both have something to prove, and cornered markets to disrupt.

Future AMD technologies in Navi may not be fully implemented or utilized in PC game development, but Sony has very talented studios that can fully take advantage of Vulkan and Navi hardware, which, I hope, will encourage all game developers to code with the best tools out there, and not the most sponsored ones; further hoping, that it will disrupt the strong hold Nvidia has over game development. A nice battle of which tech is better, more efficient, and more cost effective. What more can consumers want?

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Intrinsic said:
DélioPT said:
The introduction of a new gen was never held back by events focusing on previous gen consoles.

Not holding a PSX this year? Ok. Not even being at E3? That's not ok.
I can get they not doing a press conference, but not being there altogether? It just doesn't make sense. If MS has enough stuff to show at E3, Sony has have at least as much.
They got to be preparing something (not PS5 related) next year, otherwise, missing E3 just doesn't make sense.

First break the news of no e3 next year now on the back of an already great year.

Then at PSX in december on the 25th anniversary of the PlayStation..... announce the PS5. Show the console, new controller talk up features and show tell the world how in march 2020 its going to be released along with TLOU2 as a launch title, Ghosts and death stranding to follow in the fall.....etc. 

And they would have pretty much just won the next gen before it starts too.

Between your first and second paragraph there's a gap… of the size of a year.
You are really ok with Sony being radio silent when others are active?

I get that Sony dominated this gen, but MS showed that they can rival Sony.

Don't take Sony winning next gen for granted. With a new gen anything can happen - and MS won't be stupid to commit the same mistakes.



The reveal in December 2019 and launch in March 2020m sounds reasonable.
Not a whole different from what Nintendo did.

The thing is, Nintendo could afford doing the reveal in October.
Wii U was pretty much dead, so, Christmas wasn't ruined for Nintendo.
But Sony has a hot product on their hands and revealing a console days or months before Christmas 2019 will really hurt them.

It's obvious that Sony will advertise the reveal as if there's no tomorrow and that will create a lot of buzz.
Should Sony really do the reveal (December 2019) so close to launch (March 2020)?



Mandalore76 said:

$500 console launches usually end up horribly.  See PS3 and XBoxOne.  The PS3 took the entire gen to inch into 2nd place, and the Xbox One never really recovered.  Anything over $399 will not find mass adoption.  If PS5 were to launch at $499, all Microsoft would have to do is release the next Xbox at $399, and they would instantly regain their lost 360 marketshare.

I believe that depends on how sony does it. Sony could launch at $500 if doing it under a monicker of like 25th anniversary PS5 Founders edition. Sell it at $500 for that first 6-8 months after launch when the console wpuld usally be bought by the loyalists anyways and the around november release a $399 SKU called the base model.

All it takes is some different colored plastic and its done.



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DélioPT said:

Between your first and second paragraph there's a gap… of the size of a year.
You are really ok with Sony being radio silent when others are active?

I get that Sony dominated this gen, but MS showed that they can rival Sony.

Don't take Sony winning next gen for granted. With a new gen anything can happen - and MS won't be stupid to commit the same mistakes.

A year of radio silence isn't a big deal if played right. Firstly sony is still releasing at least 2 games next year. So its not like they aren't doing anything at all.

I think something is clear here. They cannot come and talk about anything new outside what we already know because everything new is on PS5.

And with the right stealth marketing.... a leak here and there, declerations of a great PSX 2019. Sony will firmly still have mind share leading up to PSX 2019 and then all they have to do is announce the PS5 and talk it up a bit and show a couple of trailers. And thats all anyone will be talking about right along side whatever MS shows because I believe at e3 219 MS will show the XB2.

Unfortunately for MS, they require sony to make some realy big stupid mistakes for them to have another 360 effect. That remains to be seen. 



Errorist76 said:
Miyamotoo said:

Yeah, but not just that, its obvious that games like TLoU 2, Ghosts of Tsushima and Death Stranding will be cross gen games and hardly will be launch before PS5 launch, so I have hard time believing we will wait another 2 full years, but with launch in March 2020. all makes much more sense.

What makes you think that? All those games will be out 2020 latest. Death Stranding is finished already and their only polishing now. I absolutely don't believe they'll release them after PS5 has released already, no chance in hell imho. They sure will want us to double dip. 

All points those game want be released before PS5 launch, even Sony don't mention them any more. If they releasing them on PS4 before PS5 launch, than they could easily have onother E3 2019. focused on PS4, while they skipping hole E3 and that clearly saying they dont want to talk about those games from some reason yet (and obviously its PS5).

“Now that we have ‘Spiderman’ out the door, we’re looking down in 2019 to games like ‘Dreams’ and ‘Days Gone’ but we wouldn’t have enough to bring people altogether in some location in North America to have that event,” Layden said.”We don’t want to set expectations really high and then not deliver on it.” - Shawn Layden via the article.



Miyamotoo said:
Errorist76 said:

What makes you think that? All those games will be out 2020 latest. Death Stranding is finished already and their only polishing now. I absolutely don't believe they'll release them after PS5 has released already, no chance in hell imho. They sure will want us to double dip. 

All points those game want be released before PS5 launch, even Sony don't mention them any more. If they releasing them on PS4 before PS5 launch, than they could easily have onother E3 2019. focused on PS4, while they skipping hole E3 and that clearly saying they dont want to talk about those games from some reason yet (and obviously its PS5).

“Now that we have ‘Spiderman’ out the door, we’re looking down in 2019 to games like ‘Dreams’ and ‘Days Gone’ but we wouldn’t have enough to bring people altogether in some location in North America to have that event,” Layden said.”We don’t want to set expectations really high and then not deliver on it.” - Shawn Layden via the article.

Wishful thinking from your side? If the PS5 releases holidays 2020, which is the most likely scenario, Death Stranding possibly releasing end of 2019 and a whole year left for the “big hooray send-off” of PS4, with Ghost of Tsushima, The Last Of Us p2 and eventually even Horizon 2 releasing in 2020...what sound unrealistic about that? You honestly think they’ll all release in 2021? 



very disappointed with this news. always loved e3 week.

dont like poor man austin powers, he is no andrew house or jack trenton.



 

Most probably because they are preparing the PS5 event. When? Dont know. LOL