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DraconianAC on 16 November 2018

To me, I just seems that PS5 is going to be a joint announcement by both Sony & AMD and they need a place (and time) where they can sell their idea to the consumers/developers. I'm not sure how Navi is integrated into the PS5, but I think that coding for it will not be as straight forward copy as coding for the Nvidia variant. There may be some porting involved and features which may require extra work for developers who may not want to participate.

I'll straight out say it that I'm an AMD/Radeon fan, and I think AMD is bringing a lot of innovation to the table, but it's been very difficult for them to compete against two big giant brands that have manipulated the market for quite a while now; hence, I think PS5 is a gamble for Sony and AMD to show innovation in a way people can accept it, because if the in-house developers actually take advantage of the AMD/open source (Vulkan) technology, and it might incite third party developers to follow.



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Ljink96 on 16 November 2018
ResilientFighter said:
Ljink96 said:
Nintendo already won E3 2019!

But that's kind of shocking yet understandable. On one hand, as of now you don't need E3 to get the word out there, online live presentations get more views than people that can attend. But on the other, this is not looking good for E3.

Winning E3 2019 with no sony participating is like winning a world cup with no European or south American teams playing lmao

Sony are the only console selling over 200 thousand every single week 

What does sales have anything to do with what I said? lol. When  Pokemon Lets Go, Gen 8, Animal Crossing, Smash, etc Nintendo will do the same, and as of late they have been hitting 200K a week. Sony has reasons to be in the top World Wide as of late, Nintendo hasn't even started yet. It's nowhere near its peak years. It's not discounted, no revisions, so don't get a head of yourself.

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ResilientFighter on 16 November 2018
OTBWY said:
Replicant said:

Easy now. No need to be hostile just because you're shown that Nintendo copies and is inspired as much as everyone else.

Regarding to bold, please provide the sources that debunk these.

This is rather funny, that you come here with a shitpost pic after getting annoyed that someone suggested Sony copied Nintendo. And call me hostile.

Anyway, the pic you posted is dumb and doesn't make sense. The context is a bit strange too. You said that Nintendo copies, but this suggests that either some claimed that Nintendo did it first, or is it that they got inspired by something else? Did Nintendo copy or get inspired to make Mario 64 from some obscure 1990 game? Hard to believe. As for the actual facts. The first one is not very honest. Digital pads, or just contacts in this case, have been there long before Mattel ventured into the console business. Hell, even Nintendo with their TV game pong consoles had those kinds of contacts. Widely used before any of that in calculators and such. So what is it, the D-pad? Just check this video on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnmMDzgTB7o . It's no secret that Nintendo with that gamepad popularized the form factor. We still use that NES gamepad form factor more or less today. Not a intellivision type joy stick phone form factor. Which brings me to the next thing, start and select buttons on the Atari 5200 is a little dishonest. They had different functions, there is no select button on the Atari controller btw. It has Start, Pause and Reset, which were buttons that used to be on the console itself, which Nintendo also had on Game and Watch etc (game mode and selection buttons). It's a dumb thing to compare cause they had different uses too. The third one.. shoulder buttons.. does the Intellivision controller even have shoulder buttons? Can they be considered shoulders? Those are it's primary fire buttons and they all do the same thing basically. 

I can go on rambling but I have work to do and you already get the point I hope. When I already got 3 down, I think most of it isn't that hard to debunk either.

So how about you stop the flaming instigating then... Nintendo has been inspired by things and has inspired things simple leave it at that



0D0 on 16 November 2018
Madword said:
I think there is some short sighted thinking here on VG... over at resetera a few of us are thinking why this might be the case.

Early 2020 (march) launch for Ps5, why do E3, too early for talk about PS5...some negativity of course but its the end of the PS4/Xbox gen whatever MS shows wont impact this gen's sales (especially if a new console is then out by the next E3). Sony will have a show in September to talk about PS5.

No point going to E3 to talk about PS4 games that everyone already knows about, people will be people and just moan.

You've got a point. But still, E3 is the biggest event, for 2 decades. Skip it is just sad. They could go there and focus on gameplay and say, yes, this year we're focus on 2019 games. They could go there at least in some smaller capacity. But skip it entirely sound harsh.



God bless You.

My Total Sales prediction for PS4 by the end of 2021: 110m+

When PS4 will hit 100m consoles sold: Before Christmas 2019

There were three ravens sat on a tree / They were as blacke as they might be / The one of them said to his mate, Where shall we our breakfast take?


OTBWY on 16 November 2018
ResilientFighter said:
OTBWY said:

This is rather funny, that you come here with a shitpost pic after getting annoyed that someone suggested Sony copied Nintendo. And call me hostile.

Anyway, the pic you posted is dumb and doesn't make sense. The context is a bit strange too. You said that Nintendo copies, but this suggests that either some claimed that Nintendo did it first, or is it that they got inspired by something else? Did Nintendo copy or get inspired to make Mario 64 from some obscure 1990 game? Hard to believe. As for the actual facts. The first one is not very honest. Digital pads, or just contacts in this case, have been there long before Mattel ventured into the console business. Hell, even Nintendo with their TV game pong consoles had those kinds of contacts. Widely used before any of that in calculators and such. So what is it, the D-pad? Just check this video on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnmMDzgTB7o . It's no secret that Nintendo with that gamepad popularized the form factor. We still use that NES gamepad form factor more or less today. Not a intellivision type joy stick phone form factor. Which brings me to the next thing, start and select buttons on the Atari 5200 is a little dishonest. They had different functions, there is no select button on the Atari controller btw. It has Start, Pause and Reset, which were buttons that used to be on the console itself, which Nintendo also had on Game and Watch etc (game mode and selection buttons). It's a dumb thing to compare cause they had different uses too. The third one.. shoulder buttons.. does the Intellivision controller even have shoulder buttons? Can they be considered shoulders? Those are it's primary fire buttons and they all do the same thing basically. 

I can go on rambling but I have work to do and you already get the point I hope. When I already got 3 down, I think most of it isn't that hard to debunk either.

So how about you stop the flaming instigating then... Nintendo has been inspired by things and has inspired things simple leave it at that

I know you want to defend your buddy, that's fine, but it's not relevant to the thread anymore and there is a thread warning. I'm gonna ignore any reply on this subject after this.



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ResilientFighter on 16 November 2018
Ljink96 said:
ResilientFighter said:

Winning E3 2019 with no sony participating is like winning a world cup with no European or south American teams playing lmao

Sony are the only console selling over 200 thousand every single week 

What does sales have anything to do with what I said? lol. And No, Sony does not sell over 200K every single week, lmfao. In a month sure as does Nintendo...before Pokemon Lets Go, Gen 8, Animal Crossing, Smash, etc. Sony has reasons to be in the top World Wide as of late, Nintendo hasn't even started yet. It's nowhere near its peak years. It's not discounted, no revisions, so don't get a head of yourself.

Sooo i guess this website is wrong??? I see every week marking PS4 sales worldwide as over 200k and it outsells the switch in territory except Japan. Don't get ahead of yourself with defensive tones while being wrong. You can go right now to the latest updates of sales and see proof switch is under 200k and sony is over 290k for 1 week not 1 month so in 1 month sony is selling close to 1 million on average which is why it has sold almost 20 million every year on average since release 5 years ago

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Ljink96 on 16 November 2018
ResilientFighter said:
Ljink96 said:

What does sales have anything to do with what I said? lol. And No, Sony does not sell over 200K every single week, lmfao. In a month sure as does Nintendo...before Pokemon Lets Go, Gen 8, Animal Crossing, Smash, etc. Sony has reasons to be in the top World Wide as of late, Nintendo hasn't even started yet. It's nowhere near its peak years. It's not discounted, no revisions, so don't get a head of yourself.

Sooo i guess this website is wrong??? I see every week marking PS4 sales worldwide as over 200k and it outsells the switch in territory except Japan. Don't get ahead of yourself with defensive tones while being wrong.

I read it wrong, weekly world wide, yes, not in each territory. I edited my post lol. Still, what does sales have to do with winning E3? like...what? And still, Switch hass been doing 200K weekly as well....without games like RDR2, Spiderman, etc.

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ResilientFighter on 16 November 2018
Ljink96 said:
ResilientFighter said:

Sooo i guess this website is wrong??? I see every week marking PS4 sales worldwide as over 200k and it outsells the switch in territory except Japan. Don't get ahead of yourself with defensive tones while being wrong.

I read it wrong, weekly world wide, yes, not in each territory. I edited my post lol. Still, what does sales have to do with winning E3? like...what?

Yeah i can see you did...



0D0 on 16 November 2018
KLXVER said:
wow seems like many people don't care about E3 anymore. I still love it. The hype and just the amount of exciting news at once is always great. I don't care what this means or doesn't mean for Sony and their competition. I just love E3 and next year will not have one of the greats.

Yeah, me too. I don't get this idea that e3 is dead or not important any more. The idea of e3 is that week on the entire year where the most important announcements of the big three are displayed and it's a great chance to talk about it, to discuss, to complain, whatever. It's just exciting.

I get that we can get trailers from youtube, but it's not the same thing as a yearly big event.

And for me, without Playstation there, I just don't have much to see. I'll probably skip it.



God bless You.

My Total Sales prediction for PS4 by the end of 2021: 110m+

When PS4 will hit 100m consoles sold: Before Christmas 2019

There were three ravens sat on a tree / They were as blacke as they might be / The one of them said to his mate, Where shall we our breakfast take?


Ljink96 on 16 November 2018
ResilientFighter said:
Ljink96 said:

I read it wrong, weekly world wide, yes, not in each territory. I edited my post lol. Still, what does sales have to do with winning E3? like...what?

Yeah i can see you did...

Yeah, been on this site much longer than you have. I know how to read the charts...not that difficult. Just got up too early and made a mistake. But again, you grilled me on being wrong...what does sales have to do with "Winning E3". I'm waiting my guy.

And in regards to your edited comment, Nintendo Switch is selling at the same pace that PS4 did...without it's heavy hitters, and mass 3rd party support. Again, Switch is not in its peak years so for it to even be anywhere near PS4 at this time is nothing short of amazing.

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