Yeah, I agree..2020, either spring or holidays seems more likely because of that. We’ll  see if that Resetera rumour will have some truth to it. It’s obvious Sony won’t ruin their sales by announcing it too early anyway.

My thoughts:

-No new PS4 exclusives to announce

-Several of their big titles Days Gone, Dreams, Death Stranding will be released before or around E3 (April-September), so they need big blowouts before E3.

-Leaving E3 really just for The Last of US 2 & Ghost Tsushima which isn't really enough to host a Playstation Conference.

-Showcasing Third Party, Multiplatform games at E3 is pointless now

-Obviously not ready to reveal the PS5 yet

-I don't think any of the existing PS4 games apart from maybe the THLOU II will be "cross gen" but I think PS5 will be backwards compatible and be able to render PS4 games natively at 4k/Unlocked FPS with a patch, just like PS4 pro.

Easy now. No need to be hostile just because you're shown that Nintendo copies and is inspired as much as everyone else.

Regarding to bold, please provide the sources that debunk these.

Yeah, I'm exaggerating.  Butt, the significance of E3 has been declining for quite a long time now. I would say this is just another blow.

Absolute rubbish :)

Ms will definitely hover up lots of games to show at E3, but they wont be *Exclusive* that's totally different to showing them off at E3. Also Sony have like 6 major titles that have been announced and coming out, MS has what 2 or 3, they've been beaten every year, the gap in console sales is so big... missing an E3 and MS having a big E3 is going to have little effect on this generation... It's done MS is well beaten this gen.

Sony just has to drop the price to an official $199 at E3 and they win E3 without even being there.

This is rather funny, that you come here with a shitpost pic after getting annoyed that someone suggested Sony copied Nintendo. And call me hostile.

Anyway, the pic you posted is dumb and doesn't make sense. The context is a bit strange too. You said that Nintendo copies, but this suggests that either some claimed that Nintendo did it first, or is it that they got inspired by something else? Did Nintendo copy or get inspired to make Mario 64 from some obscure 1990 game? Hard to believe. As for the actual facts. The first one is not very honest. Digital pads, or just contacts in this case, have been there long before Mattel ventured into the console business. Hell, even Nintendo with their TV game pong consoles had those kinds of contacts. Widely used before any of that in calculators and such. So what is it, the D-pad? Just check this video on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnmMDzgTB7o . It's no secret that Nintendo with that gamepad popularized the form factor. We still use that NES gamepad form factor more or less today. Not a intellivision type joy stick phone form factor. Which brings me to the next thing, start and select buttons on the Atari 5200 is a little dishonest. They had different functions, there is no select button on the Atari controller btw. It has Start, Pause and Reset, which were buttons that used to be on the console itself, which Nintendo also had on Game and Watch etc (game mode and selection buttons). It's a dumb thing to compare cause they had different uses too. The third one.. shoulder buttons.. does the Intellivision controller even have shoulder buttons? Can they be considered shoulders? Those are it's primary fire buttons and they all do the same thing basically. 

I can go on rambling but I have work to do and you already get the point I hope. When I already got 3 down, I think most of it isn't that hard to debunk either.

Nintendo showed that you can reveal a console outside of E3 and do well, and also (and most importantly) showed that you can launch a console outside of a holiday season and still sell very well, with the added benefit of having a second boost in sales during the first year once the holiday season kicks in.

Because of that, and always in my opinion, this will probably mean a PS5 reveal in late 2019, probably at PSX to celebrate the 25th anniversary of the first PS console, focusing mostly on launch and cross-gen titles, and then launching the console in March 2020. Then, Sony will come back at E3 2020 as usual to show the titles for the rest of the year.

I did not ask for what you find "hard to believe" and different enough to call Nintendo the inventor.

According to you, Nintendo wasn't inspired by neither the existing digital pads (whether it was from the Intellivision or calculators), wasn't inspired by Atari 5200's Start, Pause and Reset buttons because Nintendo added a Select button, and wasn't inspired by Intellivision's shoulder buttons because you personally don't consider them shoulder buttons (even though they are). Give me a break. I asked for sources. Not you biased opinion.

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Enough of the back and forth about who copied who, I've already banned one user in this thread, I don't want to ban anymore.

That's fucking dumb.

*I'm referring to Sony notnot be at E3, I could care less about the bickering