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Forums - Sales Discussion - Japan Sales Week 45 Media Create/Famitsu/Dengeki - November 05- 11, 2018

PwerlvlAmy said:
Switch domination is strong. Gonna be interesting to see what the numbers are going to be for Pokemon. I'll be conservative and say 70k

That would be quite disheartening and worrisome if it managed only that.



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TruckOSaurus said:
PwerlvlAmy said:
Switch domination is strong. Gonna be interesting to see what the numbers are going to be for Pokemon. I'll be conservative and say 70k

That would be quite disheartening and worrisome if it managed only that.

I'm just trying to keep it very very conservative. Can't do like others and say it will do 200k+ xD



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tak13 said:
zorg1000 said:

How specific we talking?

Do you expect 350k+ selling weeks from NS?  

Sure.



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PwerlvlAmy said:
TruckOSaurus said:

That would be quite disheartening and worrisome if it managed only that.

I'm just trying to keep it very very conservative. Can't do like others and say it will do 200k+ xD

200k is more likely than 70k.

It did 87k last year with no new releases, this year it has Pokemon along with the new Pokemon & Smash Bundles.



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zorg1000 said:
tak13 said:

Do you expect 350k+ selling weeks from NS?  

Sure.

I will be pleasantly surprised if it does... 

350k from a console with that price in Japan these days? 3ds levels? 

How? With that kind of Pokémon game and smash which is three times less popular than Animal Crossing? 3ds sold 187k in the week of AC NL release in November - which was completely sold out - and had significant game releases in the following weeks. 

Not to mention how higher 3ds weekly baseline was then and keep in mind that switch went yoy down...

Japanese haven't embraced Switch hybrid nature to the extend that consumers in the west have. It seems like many of them treat it as a 29.999 ¥ handheld only console, so its price is a problem. 

NS most likely won't manage what you are implying, i.e surpassing or even hitting 7m by the end of the year.

Maybe it will be able to sell 300k in the week that 3ds had sold 411k units.

Let's come down to earth. 

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zorg1000 said:
PwerlvlAmy said:

I'm just trying to keep it very very conservative. Can't do like others and say it will do 200k+ xD

200k is more likely than 70k.

It did 87k last year with no new releases, this year it has Pokemon along with the new Pokemon & Smash Bundles.

Possible, I just don't see 200k as a possibility. If it was Gen 8, I'd say definitely, but Lets Go isn't the Gen 8 releases so i don't see it having as big of a impact as others. 



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PwerlvlAmy said:
zorg1000 said:

200k is more likely than 70k.

It did 87k last year with no new releases, this year it has Pokemon along with the new Pokemon & Smash Bundles.

Possible, I just don't see 200k as a possibility. If it was Gen 8, I'd say definitely, but Lets Go isn't the Gen 8 releases so i don't see it having as big of a impact as others. 

Exactly, but you set the bar to the other extreme. 

It was up by 12k in the last week without a new game release and it will increase just by 17k this week? 

After all, it's still Pokémon... 

A conservative prediction would be 90-95k, yours is unjustly pessimistic not conservative. 

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tak13 said:
PwerlvlAmy said:

Possible, I just don't see 200k as a possibility. If it was Gen 8, I'd say definitely, but Lets Go isn't the Gen 8 releases so i don't see it having as big of a impact as others. 

Exactly, but you set the bar to the other extreme. 

It was up by 12k in the last week without a new game release and it will increase just by 17k this week? 

After all, it's still Pokémon... 

A conservative prediction would be 90-95k, yours is unjustly pessimistic not conservative. 

We will see next week



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zorg1000 said:

I'm thinking the last 10 weeks of the year will be similar to 3DS in 2011 or 2012

2011
Week 43-65k
Week 44-145k (Super Mario 3D Land, 343k)
Week 45-104k
Week 46-96k
Week 47-121k
Week 48-206k (Mario Kart 7, 423k)
Week 49-350k (Monster Hunter 3G, 522k)
Week 50-368k (Inazuma Eleven Go, 135k)
Week 51-482k
Week 52-198k
Total-2135k

2012
Week 43-61k
Week 44-94k
Week 45-187k (Animal Crossing, 603k)
Week 46-169k
Week 47-162k (Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, 121k)
Week 48-167k (Layton vs Ace Attorney, 129k)
Week 49-211k (Paper Mario Sticker Star, 129k)
Week 50-319k (Inazuma Eleven Go 2-168k)
Week 51-411k
Week 52-250k (Fantasy Life, 117k)
Total-2030k

 

Edit: Switch 2017 for reference

Week 43-127k (Super Mario Odyssey, 462k)

Week 44-64k

 Week 45-80k

Week 46-87k

Week 47-145k

Week 48-125k (Xenoblade 2, 98k)

Week 49-165k

Week 50-221k

Week 51-270k

Week 52-135k

Total-1420k

Let's break it down then.

With a 1.42m holiday (43%) Switch sold 3.31m YTD.

With a 2.03m holiday (37%) 3DS sold 5.50m YTD in 2012.

With a 2.14m holiday (50%) 3DS sold 4.28m YTD in 2011.

If you expect a 2.00m holiday (51%) then the Switch will sell 3.90 YTD.

In other words you expect an >50% holiday ratio for the Switch in 2018. Certainly possible but the 3DS had a massive holiday in comparison to the rest of its 2011 due to a 40% price cut. The 3DS in 2012 had a massive holiday, but it also had a massive year, which the Switch isn't really having. The 2 300k+ weeks could be possible due to Smash and Christmas, but the other weeks are iffy.



PwerlvlAmy said:
Switch domination is strong. Gonna be interesting to see what the numbers are going to be for Pokemon. I'll be conservative and say 70k

Switch last week without any new game or bundle sold 55k, so you think that this week in which we have Pokemon games launch, Pokemon Switch bundles launch and Smash Bros bundle launch, will sell only 15k more? :)

200k is far more realistic than 70k, I don't see selling less than 150k in worst case.