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outlawauron said:
haxxiy said:

That sounds exactly what Jesus actually was, or at least what he would be called. Sharing fish and bread instead of telling people to work for it? Preposterous! Not to mention literally telling people to leave their families and giving up their wealth.

This actually reminds me of a Republican Young twitter account which asked followers what gun Jesus would like the most if he was still alive. Like, for real, they weren't joking.

Yes, the same Jesus who placed the government as the seat of the Church and enacted laws to do the duty of the Church. Hmm, I must have missed that chapter.

But seriously, how people use Jesus to justify one group as "the actual moral people" rubs me the wrong way.

Yeah indeed its so twisted and adds even more believe into the current trend that people behave themselves like a certain view on politics is a religion.



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interesting topic

I think Jesus was a centrist, when he was asked whether people should pay taxes to Caesar, he asked "who's face is on the coin", "if it's Caesar's then give it to Caesar", that's so wise and fair, he also said "share your belongings with those in need", not share them equally with anyone you meet... therefore, a centrist



don't mind my username, that was more than 10 years ago, I'm a different person now, amazing how people change ^_^

o_O.Q said:
Jumpin said:

I asked you to support your claims that the Democratic Party has been pushing more religious bullshit than the Republicans, and this is what you've provided? A bunch of random girls marching in parades about feminism?

If it wasn't clear that you didn't have a clue before, you've now proven it beyond a shadow of a doubt.

these are related to policies being pushed by democrats, if you aren't aware of this then you shouldn't even be having this conversation

So, what religious bullshit policies by the democratic party are causing these random girls to march in feminist parades?

If you think I'm unaware of such policies, you're correct. It's also my stance that anyone who believes in political policies with no evidence of their existence must be either incredibly naive or profoundly delusional.

Last edited by Jumpin - on 18 November 2018

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Jumpin said:
o_O.Q said:

these are related to policies being pushed by democrats, if you aren't aware of this then you shouldn't even be having this conversation

So, what religious bullshit policies by the democratic party are causing these random girls to march in feminist parades?

If you think I'm unaware of such policies, you're correct. It's also my stance that anyone who believes in political policies with no evidence of their existence must be either incredibly naive or profoundly delusional.

lol are you now trying to argue that feminism and the current democratic party aren't linked significantly?

lol ok 

 

i'm not equating "women" with "feminism"

if you can't perceive the underlying intersectional feminist dogma at the bottom of speeches like this then i might as well not bother with you because you don't understand what is going on

and i'm obviously not speaking purely about policy but about ideology also which your thread would obviously have to be about since religion is ideology 



o_O.Q said:
Jumpin said:

So, what religious bullshit policies by the democratic party are causing these random girls to march in feminist parades?

If you think I'm unaware of such policies, you're correct. It's also my stance that anyone who believes in political policies with no evidence of their existence must be either incredibly naive or profoundly delusional.

lol are you now trying to argue that feminism and the current democratic party aren't linked significantly?

Clearly, that's not what I'm arguing.

Perhaps your reading comprehension ability is limited, so I'll write it out more simply:

1. Your claim: You see more religious bullshit policies from the Democratic Party than the Republicans.
2. Your evidence: a bunch of random girls marching in feminist parades.
3. What religious bullshit policies from the democratic party caused these random girls to want to go to a parade?



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Jumpin said:
o_O.Q said:

lol are you now trying to argue that feminism and the current democratic party aren't linked significantly?

Clearly, that's not what I'm arguing.

Perhaps your reading comprehension ability is limited, so I'll write it out more simply:

1. Your claim: You see more religious bullshit policies from the Democratic Party than the Republicans.
2. Your evidence: a bunch of random girls marching in feminist parades.
3. What religious bullshit policies from the democratic party caused these random girls to want to go to a parade?

this was my claim

"if you ask me i've been seeing more religious nonsense from the democrats recently"

what are you talking about?

but yes the rhetoric eventually evolves into policy, which is why for example it is now law to refer to someone with the pronouns of their stated identity

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/05/17/you-can-be-fined-for-not-calling-people-ze-or-hir-if-thats-the-pronoun-they-demand-that-you-use/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.fbced15150d1

because of policies like these we are currently in a position where they are if i remember correctly 30 something recognised genders and that list is increasing all the time since anyone can just choose to come up with something new

you don't think that is bullshit and a cause for concern? do i need to get into other policies?

 

"What religious bullshit policies from the democratic party"

as i said here

"if you ask me i've been seeing more religious nonsense from the democrats recently""

in other words its nonsensical rhetoric that is motivating people and eventually becoming policy

is that hard to understand?

or does it not matter if this comes from the tribe you personally identify with?



But you haven't brought up a single minutia of substance that can be related to "religious nonsense". That seems to be where you are failing in this debate. Religious doesn't just mean "motivating people". If you want to just say nonsense, that's fine. There's plenty of nonsense on the internet. But the religious nonsense is pretty much squarely in the Republican/Conservative side of politics, even though Democrats/Liberals far more espouse the ideologies and practices that Christ preached.



Megiddo said:

But you haven't brought up a single minutia of substance that can be related to "religious nonsense". That seems to be where you are failing in this debate. Religious doesn't just mean "motivating people". If you want to just say nonsense, that's fine. There's plenty of nonsense on the internet. But the religious nonsense is pretty much squarely in the Republican/Conservative side of politics, even though Democrats/Liberals far more espouse the ideologies and practices that Christ preached.

what i consider religious is beliefs rooted in faith not evidence

" There's plenty of nonsense on the internet. But the religious nonsense is pretty much squarely in the Republican/Conservative side of politics"

 i'm not talking about the internet and if you really believe that then my friend you are truly asleep and completely unaware of the world around you

but that shouldn't matter anyway since i've posted real world examples of what is going on anyway

 

"That seems to be where you are failing in this debate."

this isn't a debate i'm describing reality in the hope that certain people can look beyond the limitations on perception associating with a certain tribe is placing on them and understand how they are being moved around as pawns

 

"Democrats/Liberals far more espouse the ideologies and practices that Christ preached."

christ preached that theft under the threat of violence is justifiable? do go on

 

people have this ridiculous idea that jesus was some weak wussy "liberal" but the truth is that he was a gangster, he was a dangerous man

look at what he did to the money changers, look at when he placed a curse on the fig tree

he was a carpenter meaning he built things with his hands with whatever crappy crude tools they had back then

go get one of these "liberals" to try to drive a nail i expect that they'd break their wrist with a single swing lol

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^ OK, if you want to personally define religion as being "any belief based on faith instead of evidence" then I guess no one can stop you but just realize that you will continue to have misunderstandings with the vast majority of people that don't think that thinking Bigfoot is real or that vaccines cause autism is necessarily "religious".



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Final-Fan said:
^ OK, if you want to personally define religion as being "any belief based on faith instead of evidence" then I guess no one can stop you but just realize that you will continue to have misunderstandings with the vast majority of people that don't think that thinking Bigfoot is real or that vaccines cause autism is necessarily "religious".

i see no real difference between believing in god as some magical space humanoid and believing that gender is infinite

both beliefs are baseless and inspired by the same emotional paradigm 

that people think otherwise is a big mistake and is a big reason for the tribalism that is continuing to grow out of control

because one group stupidly looks at another group and goes "hahaha they are so stupid for thinking like that!" without being able to make the link back to their own idiotic interpretations of the world and realising that its a base component of being a human being to some degree

its not going to leave you if you stop picking up holy books and in many cases it seems to become amplified because some people foolishly believe "once i stop believing in god and associate with the atheism tribe i'll be rational and my beliefs must automatically be more grounded"

which goes the other way too "once i believe in god..."