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Hiku said:
EricHiggin said: 

How many people die in other developed nations because they can't protect themselves from the criminals or crazies with weapons?

 

There are countries with worse gun violence statistics than USA. But they're so called undeveloped nations.

You're correct, but we know where much of the gun violence is, we could greatly reduce it we desired, but we just keep watching the same communities inflate the gun violence numbers and we ignore it. Partly because it would "unfairly" affect people of color, much of it is gang violence. The mass gang murders for example aren't on the news but used to bolster statistics.

However, its also worth noting we have a fairly high number of non-firearm murders as well, about half if my memory serves me right. That suggest there may just be a violence problem in general in the US.



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Violence comes from ignorance, and that neither Jesus could escape.



vivster said:
Religion isn't about truth or accuracy, it's about who can scream their warped opinion the loudest. That's why there are so many of them.

Yeah, fuck you too

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DarthMetalliCube said:
o_O.Q said:
if you ask me i've been seeing more religious nonsense from the democrats recently

but regardless imo the minute you let tribal nonsense seep into your brain like "democrats are bad" or "republicans are bad" and start coloring your perception then you're no better than a puppet and deserve to be manipulated as you definitely will be

I wouldn't say religious nonsense but certainly more uptight puritanism from them lately, it just takes on a different form than the right wing breed of puritanism.

if you look at a lot of what the left have been pushing recently, its completely devoid of any grounding to reality, you really would have to have faith to believe in it

that's not to say that this doesn't happen on the right, the most notable example being religion, but as someone who i suppose would have identified as a leftist my whole life up until a couple years back, it is insane to watch the ideas they are pushing

 

i mean just a few minutes back i saw this article

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/07/hot-ones-problematic-women-professor/

 

how does someone arrive at the point where they start pushing something like that? its because you have an idea in your head controlling your perception of the world around you, in this case the idea that maleness is a problem and needs to be suppressed as much as possible for society to function

and that's true if you stupidly look at the world in a one dimensional way as occurs in religion



vivster said:
Religion isn't about truth or accuracy, it's about who can scream their warped opinion the loudest. That's why there are so many of them.

and yet this occurs outside of religion just as frequently, sounds to me like its not a problem specific to religion but to mankind as a whole

being an atheist does not make someone automatically more rational than someone who isn't

and that is a fallacy that is implied very often in these types of discussions

the funny thing about it to me is that people then start identifying with atheist and ironically become the very thing they claim they were in opposition to

its fascinating to watch



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American Evangelicals are a mystery to me...Jesus teachings were for the most part socialist. Free health care, Rich should give to the poor...in some cases all of their riches. He died for the salvation of his enemies...not  very capitalistic views if I may say so. The early church survived on a socialist way of life where everyone shared with everyone all of their belongings. Some how, somewhere all of this was forgotten through the centuries. Now socialism doesn't work ( neither does pure capitalism) because usually the leader in a socialist society is a capitalist. In theory only Jesus would have been able to rule a perfect socialist nation as he was selfless and holy.



RJ_Sizzle said:
Real Jesus would be the enemy of actual republicans. Staunchly against profiting off religion, healed/fed the sick and the destitute without wanting a pat on the back, acknowledged the state but never politicized it. They'd call him a socialist menace.

Frankly from what I've seen, RONALD REAGAN would not be a Republican these days. He'd be a Blue Dog, but if Reagan would be too liberal for them, Jesus is basically a young Bernie Sanders.



The Democratic Nintendo fan....is that a paradox? I'm fond of one of the more conservative companies in the industry, but I vote Liberally and view myself that way 90% of the time?

Yes, as a Christian it is plain as day for me to see that Jesus would abhor the current Republican Party. I have no idea what mental gymnastics any devout Christian needs to see the Republican Party as anything that could be remotely perceived as offering Christlike virtues and practices, but it's frankly one of the oddest things about the current American political culture. Jesus' entire ministry is about helping the sick, needy, afflicted, and downtrodden. That's pretty much the antithesis of the current Republican Party's mantra.



o_O.Q said:
if you ask me i've been seeing more religious nonsense from the democrats recently

but regardless imo the minute you let tribal nonsense seep into your brain like "democrats are bad" or "republicans are bad" and start coloring your perception then you're no better than a puppet and deserve to be manipulated as you definitely will be

Very true sir !



Rab said:
Soundwave said:

The Christ described in the Bible would go to the border to feed and wash the feet of the "migrant caravan" while Republicans would pelt him with trash most and call him a SJW and weak on border security.

That is so true, the Jesus we know of would be leading that caravan, tending to them and encouraging them with love, Republicans and many establishment Democrats would just brand him a socialist and weirdo, not worthy of their time..     

I can imagine the headlines and Alex Jones rants now. A strange middle eastern socialist name Jèsus is probably being paid by George Soros to lead an organized invasion of the USA and sjws around the world love him