thismeintiel said:
The entire problem with this concept is that Jesus had nothing to do with government. The government actually hated him and had him killed. Jesus taught for each individual to make their world better, not give nearly half of their belongings to the government to handle things. The policy was also 10% tithing to the church. The government always finds a way to get close to half, very immoral. Especially when we know they waste and funnel a lot of it. It's probably why the Right constantly gives more to charity than the Left. Their responsibility, not governments. As always, it's funny to see the Left bust out Jesus whenever it's convenient. Are there hypocrites on the Right when it comes to religion? Of course. But the vast majority lie within the Left. They steal from taxpayers for their own gains and power. They tried to take God out of their convention platform, only being forced to keep it by those in charge. They do not teach tolerance, but demand full acceptance and praise for their ideals, threatening those that disagree. And they promote the killing of the little ones Jesus loved so much, not in horrible, life-threatening circumstances, but just as your everyday ordinary birth control.
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The lefts God, science, told them about global cooling, then global warming, and now climate change. They only came to realize this because it requires interpretation, which is something the right wouldn't understand, because they believe exactly what the Bible says, which was the word of an invisible entity in the sky, unlike CO2...
Hiku said:
Sounds pretty spot on. I liked the healthcare bit. If Jesus ran for office today, he would be called "a crazy socialist".
I suppose there are a lot of people who just believe in teachings of a religion when it's convenient for them. But some times you have to wonder if they are aware of the irony. And on a similar note, not pertaining to religion, I wonder the same about racists and bigots. Stan Lee just passed away, and he said that Marvel has always been a reflection of our world. And the only people it doesn't have room for are those with hatred, intolerance, and bigotry for those who are different.
I bet the people he is referring to actually agree with these sentiments, while they're watching the films. They root for the same heroes as we do, and against the same obvious villains. But when they step outside, the message is lost on them.
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Funny how no one has pointed out that GOP Jesus is a racist. A white guy who dressed up as a middle eastern guy. He should be made an example of just like that racist Megyn Kelly...
Hiku said:
thismeintiel said:
Again, policies that give the government more money and control. Unless you are naive enough to believe every dime of that money is spent well and goes to the exact causes. If you do, I have a bridge for sale. Either way, something Jesus was not about. Individual responsibility, not an overpowering government that dictates everything for everyone.
Well, 2017 was the first time charitable giving crossed $400B, hitting $410B, so...yea, I'd say so. And 2018 may be even larger. People are also seeing higher wages, which is always good.
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In spite of charities, around 40 000 people die annually in the US because they can't afford healthcare. A number that is 0 in the rest of the developed world. Not every individual with the power to help does so. And among those who do, you're at the mercy of which cause they chose to support. If that sentiment worked, we wouldn't have any need for taxes. There are many people who do not care for the greater good. That's where living in a society and a democracy comes in. Government may not always do what the majority wants. But if the majority keep voting to get their way, the elected officials who betray them are removed. Although the majority/popular vote isn't really a thing in USA either. And they can just lie if their constituents are gullible enough. But I digress...
As for Jesus, he performed miracles that are not possible for an individual.
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How many people die in other developed nations because they can't protect themselves from the criminals or crazies with weapons?
collint0101 said:
thismeintiel said:
Again, policies that give the government more money and control. Unless you are naive enough to believe every dime of that money is spent well and goes to the exact causes. If you do, I have a bridge for sale. Either way, something Jesus was not about. Individual responsibility, not an overpowering government that dictates everything for everyone.
Well, 2017 was the first time charitable giving crossed $400B, hitting $410B, so...yea, I'd say so. And 2018 may be even larger. People are also seeing higher wages, which is always good.
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The dollar amount for charitable donations has gone up every year since 1977 with the exception of 1987, 2008 and 2009. There was more money going into charity last year than there was in 2016 simply because theres more money in the economy in 2017 than there was in 2016. Unless the gdp simply stops growing there always going to be an increase in how much money is going to charity no matter what kind of president and tax cuts we're dealing with. Thats simply not something to brag about.
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If Trump pushed to make the largest charitable donation is worldwide history, the MSM would either cover another story for a week about how Trump crushed an anthill because he was told to do so by Putin and he should be impeached, or they would explain how that money pile was lying around from Obama and it's all thanks to him, not Trump.