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Inside Xbox @ X018 thread. November 10th, 1pm PT, 4pm ET, 9pm GMT

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Conina said:
Baddman said:
I thought the show was good and fun wtf gamers always expecting a ton and overreacting having no new games doesn't make a show bad if that wasn't its purpose

So what was its purpose? Gamepass advertisement?

Besides that we didn't get much new information.

So besides the 16 game pass games we got:

- Forza Horizon 4: Treasure Island Expansion 

- State of Decay 2 Zedhunter free dlc (also return to trumbull county in 2019)

- Sea of Thieves: The Arena new mode announced

- Microsoft acquires InXile Entertainment

- Winter of Arcade is making a comeback

- kb/m support detailed, coming next week, all compatible games announced

- and the best part of the show,  the damn cats and pandas lol

- Devil May Cry 5 "the void" mode premiered

besides this, brand new trailer for Just Cause 4, Kingdom Hearts 3, and Shadow of the Tomb Raider DLC.

I can see why you're disappointed (I'm disappointed too), but I think this was an event geared towards people who are already in their ecosystem rather than convincing other why they are the best place to play. That was E3.

Though, I have to admit, they shouldn't have used the "X0" name for this, since the previous one are on a bigger scale than this.



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This event was basically what I was expecting. It was like a regular Insider Xbox episode, but with some extra stuff. Nothing mind blowing but some knowledge on a handful of games. I was disappointed to not hear about Ninja Theory's new game, but at least we got confirmation that a reveal next year is happening, likely E3. Confirmation of Obsidian being bought was great, and InXile being picked up was a nice surprise. Anyone expecting mind blowing new game announcements was going to be disappointed.

The event overall was meh and could've been shorter, just like every Insider Xbox episode honestly. I'm happy MS is really being aggressive with their 1st party. I watched it mostly for Crackdown 3 news, new first party developers announced, and Ninja Theory's new game. I got 2/3 at least.



smroadkill15 said:  I was disappointed to not hear about Ninja Theory's new game, but at least we got confirmation that a reveal next year is happening, likely E3. 

Can you provide a source for this?



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flashfire926 said:
smroadkill15 said:  I was disappointed to not hear about Ninja Theory's new game, but at least we got confirmation that a reveal next year is happening, likely E3. 

Can you provide a source for this?

Phil Spencer teased it during an interview. 

https://www.dualshockers.com/ninja-theory-new-game-2019/



Baddman said:
I find it ironic most of the negative thoughts in here are from people who are big sony defenders

Thats like saying "its ironic that the biggest defenders of this show are hardcore xbox guys".

Isnt that whats expected to happend?

 

also:  (just sony defenders huh?)

Rand al Thor 19 (huge xbox guy)  : Xbox X018 Review - An Incredibly BORING Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnwaPLLoMCc

 

ll MBG ll (huge xbox guy) : The Big XO18 Problem

Many Xbox fans and gamers were feeling let down and borderline upset with Microsoft Xbox Xo18 event yesterday. Today I want to talk about what I believe the problem is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-_KGXShNok

 

RTG (switch/xbox guy) = Xbox One #X018 REACTION: WTF WAS THAT? | RGT 85
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbNHIEU2SBo

 

nxtgen720 (Xbox guy podcast) = X018 POST SHOW REACTIONS FEAT PROCK77 1STOP ALEX KRATOS POSTUP AND MORE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTATjP6o0C4

 

Weapon Wheel Podcast (major xbox guys) = Xbox X018 Review: A Boring Waste Of Time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iIaGxm-DNE

 

Theres tons of exsamples like this, to the point where I think most xbox guys where actually abit dissapointed with the show.

 



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Snoopy said:
Errorist76 said:

You’re going to have a rough awakening then. The new CPUs alone will make X1X look incredibly outdated in less than one year already.

Better frame rate won't matter that much for casuals which make up the majority of console gamers. If they walk into GameStop or watch youtube comparisons and the big difference is just frame rate, they might just shrug their shoulders and get xbox one x since it will play all the games for a cheaper price.

Don’t tell me you believe the forward compatibility talk by MS.again, it won’t take a year until new games won’t support X1(X) anymore.. just like every gen before it.



Runa216 said:
Baddman said:
I find it ironic most of the negative thoughts in here are from people who are big sony defenders

Soooo...the majority of gamers in the modern era? 

The thing is a lot of current PS4 owners were Xbox owners last gen and would go to play on Xbox if they had a reason to. I think thats the irony of people saying its just Sony fans moaning.

The problem most of the time is perspective, I am a Sony fan but also a gamer, designer etc, I can have an unbiased view and have called out Sony when they do crap. The problem ends up that the most hardcore fans will defend something and just blame the other side (bit like politics).

The Xbox show was mediocre, the audience was a pain, and it was as others have said a big ad for Gamepass... the problem with MS is they keep making the same mistake that most companies (EA for example) make, which is make their shows a single focus. Xbox focus was gamepass, which I'm sure for people using it is a great service, but you have to be careful not to be looking at forcing that down peoples throats as you lose the message of here's just some games for you to play. The show reminded me a little of TV TV TV...

They could have cut an hour off the show, made it much tighter, calmed down the audience and that would have improved the show greatly.



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Errorist76 said:
Snoopy said:

Better frame rate won't matter that much for casuals which make up the majority of console gamers. If they walk into GameStop or watch youtube comparisons and the big difference is just frame rate, they might just shrug their shoulders and get xbox one x since it will play all the games for a cheaper price.

Don’t tell me you believe the forward compatibility talk by MS.again, it won’t take a year until new games won’t support X1(X) anymore.. just like every gen before it.

X1(X) is a mid-gen console, unlike previous generations. They can easily lower frame rate and graphics to run on it.



Snoopy said:
Errorist76 said:

Don’t tell me you believe the forward compatibility talk by MS.again, it won’t take a year until new games won’t support X1(X) anymore.. just like every gen before it.

X1(X) is a mid-gen console, unlike previous generations. They can easily lower frame rate and graphics to run on it.

The X1X would greatly hold back game development, if they did this. Sales numbers of X1X and Pro are way too low to be respected further into the new gen.



Madword said:
Runa216 said:

Soooo...the majority of gamers in the modern era? 

The thing is a lot of current PS4 owners were Xbox owners last gen and would go to play on Xbox if they had a reason to. I think thats the irony of people saying its just Sony fans moaning.

The problem most of the time is perspective, I am a Sony fan but also a gamer, designer etc, I can have an unbiased view and have called out Sony when they do crap. The problem ends up that the most hardcore fans will defend something and just blame the other side (bit like politics).

The Xbox show was mediocre, the audience was a pain, and it was as others have said a big ad for Gamepass... the problem with MS is they keep making the same mistake that most companies (EA for example) make, which is make their shows a single focus. Xbox focus was gamepass, which I'm sure for people using it is a great service, but you have to be careful not to be looking at forcing that down peoples throats as you lose the message of here's just some games for you to play. The show reminded me a little of TV TV TV...

They could have cut an hour off the show, made it much tighter, calmed down the audience and that would have improved the show greatly.

Exactly. I don't HATE Xbox, I'm just very disappointed with them since about 2012 or so. I mean, I have an Xbox 360 with more games than any console before it (close to 60, my prior record was 44 on PS2, 36 on PS1) and I have an Xbox One. However, I rag on Microsoft a lot because, and get this, they have been doing terribly this gen and on the tail end of last gen. 

I bought a 360 because it was dominating the charts and I wanted to play with friends. then support dried up for the system but the first year of the One looked enticing! So, despite them dropping the ball on the end of last gen, I had faith in their ability to impress me this gen; sounded like they learned their lesson! Well, I got an Xbox One within a year of launch and....I think I've put 50 hours into it total. I haven't personally played it in fur years (Seriously, they haven't released a single game I've been excited for since Gears of War 4....and I haven't even opened my copy of Gears 4 because I've been too busy playing PS4 and Switch games). 

The point is that it's not about brand loyalty or fanboyism, it's that Microsoft really hasn't given me a reason to play their console. Honestly, I feel scorned because I not only bought myself a console back in 2014 but also got one for a friend with the hopes we'd play games together and have a gay old time. In 4 years I've bought only 9 games (and had 5 given to me by my roommate when he sold his Xbox and gamestop was giving him 2-6 dollars per game). I had more games on my Switch within its first year than I have in five years with the Xbox One. 

So yes, I am critical of Microsoft...because they're doing a piss-poor job and I invested in them. I gave them my faith and they shit on me by continuing the dearth of quality game releases over the past few years. Over the past two years they've released FOUR exclusives that got over a 75 on metacritic - Halo Wars, Forza Horizon 4, Forza Motorsport 7, and Cuphead. (State of Decay and Sea of Thieves both got poor reviews upon release.) AND to make things worse, guess where I bought cuphead? Steam. I bought it on Steam. So while Microsoft has been focusing on selling the Xbox One X as 'the most powerful console ever', they already lost my faith by not putting out quality games that I can only get on that system. I bought the console when it was relatively new with the hopes I'd get something decent and they failed to deliver; slightly better graphics on games I can get on a console I've come to love and use daily is not enough to overcome the loss of faith. 

So yeah, my original point still stands: The majority of gamers are pissing on Microsoft because Microsoft is dropping all the balls. This shows both in sales and in critical reception, and presentations like this one that just passed are only making things worse by having them double down on games that nobody gives a damn about or just aren't good as well as a feature (Gamepass) that is admittedly good but clearly a desperate attempt at grasping at anything they can offer. 

Oh, and as for acquiring studios, they lost my faith in that regard when they MURDERED Rare. Until they fix that there's literally nothing they can do in regards to acquiring new studios that I'll care about; I'll always see them as murderers of otherwise talented studios. 



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