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Are Mixed People "Accepted" in Your Country?

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Ever thought about this?

I do 11 37.93%
 
Never thought about it 10 34.48%
 
Yes, but don't really care 8 27.59%
 
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Saeko said:

You sure about that ?

I mean i'm swiss my wife from philippines, my  daughter is birth in philippines and never put a foot in swiss, and she have swiss passport, and some europa country is the same.

Maybe i missunderstand the case too, my english average !

Yes, one example does not nullify the many other overt instances of extreme ethnocentrism ... 

The numbers don't lie especially in France's case when it was one of the former colonial powers ... 

Europe will NEVER be a model for diversity, the benchmark is America and will remain America for the foreseeable future even with Trump at the helm. There's a reason why Europe's demographics are the most ethnically homogeneous and why a minority community is nearly non-existent in Europe. Heck, America's northern neighbor which is Canada is a better bet than ALL of Europe. The type of discrimination we'd see in Europe would not stand up to scrutiny compared to North America because they have the highest standards when it comes ethnic awareness ... 



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fatslob-:O said:
Saeko said:

You sure about that ?

I mean i'm swiss my wife from philippines, my  daughter is birth in philippines and never put a foot in swiss, and she have swiss passport, and some europa country is the same.

Maybe i missunderstand the case too, my english average !

Yes, one example does not nullify the many other overt instances of extreme ethnocentrism ... 

The numbers don't lie especially in France's case when it was one of the former colonial powers ... 

Europe will NEVER be a model for diversity, the benchmark is America and will remain America for the foreseeable future even with Trump at the helm. There's a reason why Europe's demographics are the most ethnically homogeneous and why a minority community is nearly non-existent in Europe. Heck, America's northern neighbor which is Canada is a better bet than ALL of Europe. The type of discrimination we'd see in Europe would not stand up to scrutiny compared to North America because they have the highest standards when it comes ethnic awareness ... 

You can't say that until your cops stop shooting unarmed innocent people just for being black...



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Ka-pi96 said:

You can't say that until your cops stop shooting unarmed innocent people just for being black...

Considering that officer brutality is tried in court and they face the possibility of sanctions from their employer, I'd say America has pretty high sensitivity to marginalized ethnic groups since they often face more positive than negative discrimination ...  

Meanwhile in Europe, Greece still holds a spat against Turkey to this day. Near unconditional birthright citizenship is STILL not offered in Europe but what's more is that minorities are better represented in government and professional positions in America compared to European nations. At least Americans can be proud that they are open minded enough that they are willing to have an ethnic minority represent them as their head of state or other executive positions but can the same be said for Europe's achievements so far ? 

People say that America is socially backwards but I'm starting to see it being less true as it keeps getting repeated over again since out of all the developed nations, America is downright the least xenophobic and by most measures, it's Europe that are the failure states for diversity ... 

By no means is the immigration, communities, representation in Europe are anywhere near as good in America and it's far less cosmopolitan too ... 



In my country this is not even an issue. Being mixed here is common, about 44% of the population consider itself mixed (but this number is probably higher)

Last edited by Rogerioandrade - on 06 November 2018

HandofPrometheus said:
I live in the US where a lot of black people accept mixed people and like you said consider them black. I never really thought about it back then but now personally I think we should really stop doing this especially when biracial people consider themselves biracial and not fully black.

Exactly, its mostly Black people who get offended when mixed people choose to identify as mixed.

spurgeonryan said:
We just got over race wars and now we have mixed race wars? There is no winning.

I don't think we'll ever get over race wars, not sure if theres any mixed race wars.

Immersiveunreality said:
WolfpackN64 said:
Not a big deal in Belgium.

 I do not know if its a big deal in Belgium but from a personal experience i noticed a lot of xenophobia growing up in this country .

A big part of my own family is that way which is very conflicting for me and as a mixed person myself i had people not opening up and talking to me or plainly being mean till they heard me speaking in their own dialect, some of them even confessed they felt relieved i was no foreigner but that never felt as a compliment for me. :p Regularly i hear people talking about the foreigners that take their jobs or take their taxmoney,steal,cant be trusted and even worse i hear people cheer when a foreigner dies in an accident because "there's plenty of them" or "Its not one of us" or "those are worth less" .

I did go to an all white shool as one of the few colored kids there, i think 2 or 3 total and i must say i had a very hard time in my early years and only when i grew and could defend myself they turned into cowards and stopped bullying but a lot of kids back then had xenophobic tendencies probably partly inherited from parents.

I do not know about total statistic but from my own biased personal view i did witness a lot of negativity towards anything that looks or acts differently.

This is usually the case in mostly white or mostly black neighbourhoods.



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fatslob-:O said:
Saeko said:

You sure about that ?

I mean i'm swiss my wife from philippines, my  daughter is birth in philippines and never put a foot in swiss, and she have swiss passport, and some europa country is the same.

Maybe i missunderstand the case too, my english average !

Yes, one example does not nullify the many other overt instances of extreme ethnocentrism ... 

The numbers don't lie especially in France's case when it was one of the former colonial powers ... 

Europe will NEVER be a model for diversity, the benchmark is America and will remain America for the foreseeable future even with Trump at the helm. There's a reason why Europe's demographics are the most ethnically homogeneous and why a minority community is nearly non-existent in Europe. Heck, America's northern neighbor which is Canada is a better bet than ALL of Europe. The type of discrimination we'd see in Europe would not stand up to scrutiny compared to North America because they have the highest standards when it comes ethnic awareness ... 

Thanks for explaination, i think europeen is well mixed but its mixed in white color mostly, in swiss, 10% of the population is italian, i think i remember some "racist" party said there is 40% stranger in swiss, so we pretty good mixed, even if mostly white. but when i look in my city 30k ppl, when i go in center, you have many african, asia, indian etc type... 

Now about birth things, you have to think, its too because USA is a 99% immigrant country, native not count for 1% of population probably now, so that may be why its more mixed and law like that got in more easy don't you think ? (same go with canada)

You got more "african ppl and spanish type" because your early heavy slavery and invaded mexico land.

not i disagree with you, my like or dislike someone is just about moral choice or ppl acting ^^

Last edited by Saeko - on 06 November 2018

Brazil is made of mixed heritage so not a real big problem here even though some people try to make it be.



Saeko said:

Thanks for explaination, i think europeen is well mixed but its mixed in white color mostly, in swiss, 10% of the population is italian, i think i remember some "racist" party said there is 40% stranger in swiss, so we pretty good mixed, even if mostly white. but when i look in my city 30k ppl, when i go in center, you have many african, asia, indian etc type... 

Now about birth things, you have to think, its too because USA is a 99% immigrant country, native not count for 1% of population probably now, so that may be why its more mixed and law like that got in more easy don't you think ? (same go with canada)

You got more "african ppl and spanish type" because your early heavy slavery and invaded mexico land.

not i disagree with you, my like or dislike someone is just about moral choice or ppl acting ^^

The fact that most of Europe's so called "diversity" comes from being limited to just the Schengen area which are members states who already shares similar values and demographics really puts a dent on Europe's commitment to multiculturalism and multiracialism. When are the Arabs, North Africans or the Turkic people going to be able to participate in the European project ?  

As for getting the birthright policy in effect no it was not anywhere near easy. Abraham Lincoln had to fight a war against the confederate states with which he led the union army at the helm. Birthright wasn't just a law, it was a constitutional amendment in which 3/4ths of the states had agree upon it ... 

America didn't invent slave trading, that was Europe. It was just a system that had persisted with the creation of the new republic. As for invading Mexico, the American republic didn't do that and was in fact offered Mexican citizenship. Mexico at the time just offered land to American settlers but little did they know it was a dumb move since their sparsely populated northern territories had more in common with America than they did with the southern territory. Tensions raised up since after, then Texas demanded independence so they fought a civil war and the rest is history with Mexico's other northern territories ... 



Snoorlax said:
HandofPrometheus said:
I live in the US where a lot of black people accept mixed people and like you said consider them black. I never really thought about it back then but now personally I think we should really stop doing this especially when biracial people consider themselves biracial and not fully black.

Exactly, its mostly Black people who get offended when mixed people choose to identify as mixed.

spurgeonryan said:
We just got over race wars and now we have mixed race wars? There is no winning.

I don't think we'll ever get over race wars, not sure if theres any mixed race wars.

Immersiveunreality said:

 I do not know if its a big deal in Belgium but from a personal experience i noticed a lot of xenophobia growing up in this country .

A big part of my own family is that way which is very conflicting for me and as a mixed person myself i had people not opening up and talking to me or plainly being mean till they heard me speaking in their own dialect, some of them even confessed they felt relieved i was no foreigner but that never felt as a compliment for me. :p Regularly i hear people talking about the foreigners that take their jobs or take their taxmoney,steal,cant be trusted and even worse i hear people cheer when a foreigner dies in an accident because "there's plenty of them" or "Its not one of us" or "those are worth less" .

I did go to an all white shool as one of the few colored kids there, i think 2 or 3 total and i must say i had a very hard time in my early years and only when i grew and could defend myself they turned into cowards and stopped bullying but a lot of kids back then had xenophobic tendencies probably partly inherited from parents.

I do not know about total statistic but from my own biased personal view i did witness a lot of negativity towards anything that looks or acts differently.

This is usually the case in mostly white or mostly black neighbourhoods.

Yeah outside the big cities there aren't much places with mixed people in this country  and we do not have a lot of big cities.



It's a complete non-issue in my country which is good but it's still a hellhole though.