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V-r0cK said:
Wont overthink it and guess characters that's already connected with the current Smash roster rather than from a completely different franchise that hasn't made an appearance yet.

1. Jeanne (Bayonetta)
2. Sephiroth (FFVII)
3. Raiden (MGS2)
4. Waluigi
5. ....Bowsette

I still dream about hearing one winged angle in smash 



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MasonADC said:
V-r0cK said:
Wont overthink it and guess characters that's already connected with the current Smash roster rather than from a completely different franchise that hasn't made an appearance yet.

1. Jeanne (Bayonetta)
2. Sephiroth (FFVII)
3. Raiden (MGS2)
4. Waluigi
5. ....Bowsette

I still dream about hearing one winged angle in smash 

It can still happen :D

If Smash added Chun Li instead of Ken, then my guess would've been Tifa instead of Sephiroth.



Personally I hope we get fighters from series that aren't represented in Smash yet - it's a possibility, given each fighter comes with their own selection of music and a stage. Much as I'd like to see Isaac, Waluigi and Skull Kid in the game, I don't think that's going to happen with the Fighter Pass; maybe there'll be another pass and selection of DLC in 2020.

Another thing we should consider is that the fighter selection was made at the planning stages, partially due to the size of the roster and partially down to the need to sort out complex licensing issues. If you re-watch the Direct, you'll notice that Sakurai says Rex isn't included because Xenoblade Chronicles 2 was revealed after Smash Ultimate's roster had been finalised, which means the roster was finalised before January 2017 (probably late 2016, given Incineroar's inclusion) - I wonder if the DLC fighters have also all been picked long in advance, potentially due to sorting out some licensing issues with third parties. If it wasn't the case that DLC fighters were picked in the planning stage, then I'd have expected to see Rex/Pyra as one of the five, but that's already been ruled out. As it is, I think we can rule out Fighters coming from Switch's first-wave of titles (so no Twintelle, too), at least in this first pass. All in all, I'm not really sure who we'll see - though I think my first pick is a logical and likely one. I think these Fighters are going to include some high profile, eye-catching choices, given Nintendo will want to sell the DLC and keep Smash's profile high.

1) Hero - Dragon Quest. This makes a lot of sense - many of Japan's biggest franchises from the 80s and 90s are now represented in Smash (Mario, Zelda, DK, Pokemon, Sonic, Final Fantasy, Metal Gear, Castlevania, Pac-Man, Mega Man, Street Fighter, Bomberman, Virtua Fighter). Dragon Quest is one glaring omission from that list - I'd expect them to go with 'Hero' (DQ protagonists are often anonymous) and go for a sword-based fighting style, with a few magic attacks thrown in - I'd like there to be multiple skins representing the Heroes of different DQ games. Add in a DQ stage possibly based on the DQ XI overworld, some assists (Jess? Slime?), Spirits and a music selection, and it makes a lot of sense to me that we'll see this happen.

2) Captain Toad - Super Mario. He's been around for over a decade now, since Mario Galaxy, and has become a recurring character in the 3D Mario titles and starred in his own spin-off game. He's also adorable and I like him and I'm honestly struggling to think who might be included at this point. Toadette as an alternate model. Stage: Pyropuff Peak.

3) Extra Capcom Rep - Hunter (Monster Hunter) or Leon Kennedy (Resident Evil). Some of my reasoning for this is similar to option 1: Resident Evil is another iconic Japanese franchise without any representation. Given Leon Kennedy has starred in several titles, I think he's the likeliest rep. Monster Hunter already has some representation with Rathalos as an assist and presumably as a story mode boss, plus what looked like a basic level based on Ancestral Steppe. A stage for Hunter would be based on 4 Ultimate; Ancestral Steppe or Heaven's Mount might be likely. I think Hunter's still a possible choice, but part of me thinks if Monster Hunter had a rep, they'd be in the base game with Rathalos.

4) Rayman (Rayman). Ubisoft have obviously wanted this to happen in the past, but Nintendo's relationship with Ubisoft has changed to the point were Nintendo have trusted Ubisoft with both their golden goose, Mario, as well as two other key properties - Donkey Kong (for the Rabbids expansion) and Star Fox, for Starlink. While personally I'd prefer to see Jade (BG&E) represent Ubisoft in Smash, Rayman fits the vibe of the game and is a more established character. A stage based off of one of the levels in Rayman Legends would be a logical choice, given it was originally Wii U exclusive. Rabbid Peach might join at the same time as an assist trophy.

5) I'd like to give this spot to Banjo-Kazooie, who'd represent Rare's 90s glory days on the N64, but I expect that's not going to happen. My guess is we'll either get a rep for Fire Emblem: Three Houses (though I don't think we need it) or perhaps something from Rhythm Heaven. My outside bet for another Nintendo character would be one of the Champions from Breath of the Wild.

I'd like to say we'll see another Final Fantasy rep, perhaps like the Black Mage as a retro option, or Terra Branford, from FF VI, but I think Dragon Quest is more likely. I do think two or three of the choices are going to be high profile third party characters - and that these Fighters were actually picked during the planning stages of the game, likely as a way of clarifying licensing issues and ensuring high profile DLC. Chun-li remains a possible extra Capcom rep, but I can see them sticking to Ryu & Ken.

Personally I'd be open to more DLC in the future - maybe an Echo Fighters pack to add Dixie Kong, Medusa (Kid Icarus), Metal Sonic and Black Shadow (F-Zero), or a pack which promotes some Assist Trophies into the roster (Waluigi, Isaac, Skull Kid being obvious choices).



Asriel said:

Personally I hope we get fighters from series that aren't represented in Smash yet - it's a possibility, given each fighter comes with their own selection of music and a stage. Much as I'd like to see Isaac, Waluigi and Skull Kid in the game, I don't think that's going to happen with the Fighter Pass; maybe there'll be another pass and selection of DLC in 2020.

Another thing we should consider is that the fighter selection was made at the planning stages, partially due to the size of the roster and partially down to the need to sort out complex licensing issues. If you re-watch the Direct, you'll notice that Sakurai says Rex isn't included because Xenoblade Chronicles 2 was revealed after Smash Ultimate's roster had been finalised, which means the roster was finalised before January 2017 (probably late 2016, given Incineroar's inclusion) - I wonder if the DLC fighters have also all been picked long in advance, potentially due to sorting out some licensing issues with third parties. If it wasn't the case that DLC fighters were picked in the planning stage, then I'd have expected to see Rex/Pyra as one of the five, but that's already been ruled out. As it is, I think we can rule out Fighters coming from Switch's first-wave of titles (so no Twintelle, too), at least in this first pass. All in all, I'm not really sure who we'll see - though I think my first pick is a logical and likely one. I think these Fighters are going to include some high profile, eye-catching choices, given Nintendo will want to sell the DLC and keep Smash's profile high.

1) Hero - Dragon Quest. This makes a lot of sense - many of Japan's biggest franchises from the 80s and 90s are now represented in Smash (Mario, Zelda, DK, Pokemon, Sonic, Final Fantasy, Metal Gear, Castlevania, Pac-Man, Mega Man, Street Fighter, Bomberman, Virtua Fighter). Dragon Quest is one glaring omission from that list - I'd expect them to go with 'Hero' (DQ protagonists are often anonymous) and go for a sword-based fighting style, with a few magic attacks thrown in - I'd like there to be multiple skins representing the Heroes of different DQ games. Add in a DQ stage possibly based on the DQ XI overworld, some assists (Jess? Slime?), Spirits and a music selection, and it makes a lot of sense to me that we'll see this happen.

2) Captain Toad - Super Mario. He's been around for over a decade now, since Mario Galaxy, and has become a recurring character in the 3D Mario titles and starred in his own spin-off game. He's also adorable and I like him and I'm honestly struggling to think who might be included at this point. Toadette as an alternate model. Stage: Pyropuff Peak.

3) Extra Capcom Rep - Hunter (Monster Hunter) or Leon Kennedy (Resident Evil). Some of my reasoning for this is similar to option 1: Resident Evil is another iconic Japanese franchise without any representation. Given Leon Kennedy has starred in several titles, I think he's the likeliest rep. Monster Hunter already has some representation with Rathalos as an assist and presumably as a story mode boss, plus what looked like a basic level based on Ancestral Steppe. A stage for Hunter would be based on 4 Ultimate; Ancestral Steppe or Heaven's Mount might be likely. I think Hunter's still a possible choice, but part of me thinks if Monster Hunter had a rep, they'd be in the base game with Rathalos.

4) Rayman (Rayman). Ubisoft have obviously wanted this to happen in the past, but Nintendo's relationship with Ubisoft has changed to the point were Nintendo have trusted Ubisoft with both their golden goose, Mario, as well as two other key properties - Donkey Kong (for the Rabbids expansion) and Star Fox, for Starlink. While personally I'd prefer to see Jade (BG&E) represent Ubisoft in Smash, Rayman fits the vibe of the game and is a more established character. A stage based off of one of the levels in Rayman Legends would be a logical choice, given it was originally Wii U exclusive. Rabbid Peach might join at the same time as an assist trophy.

5) I'd like to give this spot to Banjo-Kazooie, who'd represent Rare's 90s glory days on the N64, but I expect that's not going to happen. My guess is we'll either get a rep for Fire Emblem: Three Houses (though I don't think we need it) or perhaps something from Rhythm Heaven. My outside bet for another Nintendo character would be one of the Champions from Breath of the Wild.

I'd like to say we'll see another Final Fantasy rep, perhaps like the Black Mage as a retro option, or Terra Branford, from FF VI, but I think Dragon Quest is more likely. I do think two or three of the choices are going to be high profile third party characters - and that these Fighters were actually picked during the planning stages of the game, likely as a way of clarifying licensing issues and ensuring high profile DLC. Chun-li remains a possible extra Capcom rep, but I can see them sticking to Ryu & Ken.

Personally I'd be open to more DLC in the future - maybe an Echo Fighters pack to add Dixie Kong, Medusa (Kid Icarus), Metal Sonic and Black Shadow (F-Zero), or a pack which promotes some Assist Trophies into the roster (Waluigi, Isaac, Skull Kid being obvious choices).

I really like the Leon choice, and Skull Kid hasn't been showed as an assist trophy yet, so we might not even need a special pack for him. Still think he will be a boss in World of Light though. All DLC for this pass is meant to be out by Early 2020, so I'm assuming the dlc choices were picked last year, maybe early this year 



Rayman
Jibanyan
Edelgard
Geno
Crash Bandicoot


Not sure if even one of these will be one of the DLC fighters, but it's fun to speculate. Really want Rex plus Pyra/Mythra even though it seems unlikely.

Last edited by Green098 - on 02 November 2018

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My hope:

1) Rex and Pyra/Mythra (with Pneuma as final Smash) or Jin and Lora
2) Crash Bandicoot
3) a) Maybe Spyro if the Trilogy will be released on Switch
3) b) In case Spyro won't be released on the system I think that Coco would fit
4) Steve from Minecraft
5) I wouldn't exclude the presence of a Rabbid from Mario+Rabbids. Rabbid Peach is already in it as a Spirit, so who knows?



Zanark best Inazuma Eleven pg

I want to say Waluigi, not because I want him to be in but because all his friends already are. I feel bad for the guy.

However, they want to actually sell the DLC I’m assuming so I guess they’ll come up with five characters that have a certain shock value and are highly requested. The hard thing is Pirana Plant pretty much means anything goes...

- Skull Kid
- Geno
- Some Dragon Quest character, I don’t know any names
- Jill Valentine
- Banjo-Kazooie



No offense but .... what the fuck are these predictions Joker from Persona? Oh god ... keep that to memes please!

I actually wouldn't be surprised if we did get a DQ character or some kind of Square Enix rep, but oddly enough no one seems to be really asking for them ... which is crazy because even in the West most of the characters that won the Smash ballot where minor niche characters. I think Cloud may just be enough to be honest. 

Anyways, here's my predictions: 

Banjo-Kazooie 

Crash

Ubisoft Rep (Hopefully Rayman but I wouldn't be surprised if the godawful Rabbids got in ...)

Fire Emblem Three Houses Rep

Leon Kennedy (Resident Evil 4)

 

This is partially a "what I want" list but also kind of a prediction list. Stuff like Leon Kennedy is more of a prediction. Although ... I'm starting to believe that the whole "Keep Smash Japanese-based" rule might be an issue still considering that we got no new Western characters in the base game. I admit, my predictions are a bit unrealistic. Maybe I shouldn't laugh at yours ... feel free to laugh at mine.  



S.Peelman said:

- Skull Kid

OMG YES YES YES pleasssseeee 

I fear that we'll get a BOTW rep before Skull Kid though (or more likely just no DLC Zelda rep at all) 



AngryLittleAlchemist said:

No offense but .... what the fuck are these predictions Joker from Persona? Oh god ... keep that to memes please!

I actually wouldn't be surprised if we did get a DQ character or some kind of Square Enix rep, but oddly enough no one seems to be really asking for them ... which is crazy because even in the West most of the characters that won the Smash ballot where minor niche characters. I think Cloud may just be enough to be honest. 

Anyways, here's my predictions: 

Banjo-Kazooie 

Crash

Ubisoft Rep (Hopefully Rayman but I wouldn't be surprised if the godawful Rabbids got in ...)

Fire Emblem Three Houses Rep

Leon Kennedy (Resident Evil 4)

 

This is partially a "what I want" list but also kind of a prediction list. Stuff like Leon Kennedy is more of a prediction. Although ... I'm starting to believe that the whole "Keep Smash Japanese-based" rule might be an issue still considering that we got no new Western characters in the base game. I admit, my predictions are a bit unrealistic. Maybe I shouldn't laugh at yours ... feel free to laugh at mine.  

I definitely don't think we would go to having no western characters to 3 in the dlc. I added Joker because I assume every major Japanese company will eventually have a character in smash, and Joker is the best fit.