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Machiavellian said:

Kalkano said:

Calling people out for lying is now "promoting violence"?  This is outrageous.

So the person who lies every chance he get calling the media liars for reporting his lies and then trying to turn an event like this back on the media.  Even if you just take that that statement out from the President, how about every rally he does, he calls the media the enemy of the people.  It really only takes one person to latch on to that statement to get radicalize.  We have a president who seems to always be willing to blame everyone and anyone besides himself as if his words do not have weight.  He isn't Trump the TV personality, he is the president of the US.  Just by him condoning a political figure for physical violence of a reporter is sending a message loud and clear to anyone who wants to read into it.

This shit makes me FUME.

They're called the "enemy of the people" because they do nothing but LIE, and that in NO WAY promotes violence.  The crap being spewed here is exactly the same thing that they constantly spew. 

crissindahouse said:
Did I just read it's the fault of those who got the bombs to get them and that we should blame them? WTF

Please don't twist my words.  Obviously the ultimate blame falls on the person actually sending shit like this (and let's be honest, this stuff has targeted both sides of the aisle).  But, when you are actively calling for harassment and incivility, you've obviously played a major role.



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deskpro2k3 said:
We already know what's going on. This is terrorism. Red vs Blue terrorism to be more specific.

How do we know that this isn't a foreign entity with the goal of trying to make it look that way?  We just don't know.



Kalkano said:
Machiavellian said:

It's what happens when you do not check your words before saying them.  Time and again, Trump has promoted violence whether at his own rally, supporting someone doing violence or just his tweets calling the media enemy of the people and so forth.  Whether this has anything to do with him, we may never know but its not like he helps his case either.

Calling people out for lying is now "promoting violence"?  This is outrageous.

 

Trump made more than 4000 false or misleading claims in the past 500 days which led to:

Heather Heyer getting run over by a car for protesting.

A pizza joint shot up because they thought it had a child sex ring.

congressman assaulted a journalist

Trump bragged about that assaulted journalist.

They are trying to bomb the Clintons, Obama, Soros and others.

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deskpro2k3 said:
Kalkano said:

Calling people out for lying is now "promoting violence"?  This is outrageous.

 

Trump made more than 4000 false or misleading claims in the past 500 days which led to:

Heather Heyer getting run over by a car for protesting.

A pizza joint shot up because they thought it had a child sex ring.

congressman assaulted a journalist for asking him a question.

Trump bragged about that assaulted journalist.

They are trying to bomb the Clintons, Obama, Soros and others.

Congrats.  This is a perfect example of why the media gets called the "enemy of the people".  Every single thing you just said was INSANELY twisted to meet your political agenda.



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Kalkano said:
deskpro2k3 said:

 

Trump made more than 4000 false or misleading claims in the past 500 days which led to:

Heather Heyer getting run over by a car for protesting.

A pizza joint shot up because they thought it had a child sex ring.

congressman assaulted a journalist for asking him a question.

Trump bragged about that assaulted journalist.

They are trying to bomb the Clintons, Obama, Soros and others.

Congrats.  This is a perfect example of why the media gets called the "enemy of the people".  Every single thing you just said was INSANELY twisted to meet your political agenda.

Explain how they're "INSANELY twisted" 



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Kalkano said:

Machiavellian said:

So the person who lies every chance he get calling the media liars for reporting his lies and then trying to turn an event like this back on the media.  Even if you just take that that statement out from the President, how about every rally he does, he calls the media the enemy of the people.  It really only takes one person to latch on to that statement to get radicalize.  We have a president who seems to always be willing to blame everyone and anyone besides himself as if his words do not have weight.  He isn't Trump the TV personality, he is the president of the US.  Just by him condoning a political figure for physical violence of a reporter is sending a message loud and clear to anyone who wants to read into it.

This shit makes me FUME.

They're called the "enemy of the people" because they do nothing but LIE, and that in NO WAY promotes violence.  The crap being spewed here is exactly the same thing that they constantly spew. 

crissindahouse said:
Did I just read it's the fault of those who got the bombs to get them and that we should blame them? WTF

Please don't twist my words.  Obviously the ultimate blame falls on the person actually sending shit like this (and let's be honest, this stuff has targeted both sides of the aisle).  But, when you are actively calling for harassment and incivility, you've obviously played a major role.

Hmmm, so you believe that the mainstream media is the enemy of the people because they lie.  What exactly has the mainstream media lied about.  I have definitely seen some statements made in error but then again, I have also seen outright lies just in the last month by the President.  If the media is the enemy then what is Trump or are you saying that Trump does not making any lies and its the media who actually doing the lying.  



deskpro2k3 said:
Kalkano said:

Congrats.  This is a perfect example of why the media gets called the "enemy of the people".  Every single thing you just said was INSANELY twisted to meet your political agenda.

Explain how they're "INSANELY twisted" 

Glad you asked!

1) "Trump made more than 4000 false or misleading claims in the past 500 days which led to:"  That's quite a claim.  Shocked that you just claimed it with no evidence.  I'm sure you have some extreme left-wing "fact check" site to back it up.  *eyeroll*

2) "Heather Heyer getting run over by a car for protesting."  Funny, I didn't realize Trump was driving, or told the driver to do it.  In no way related to Trump.

3) "A pizza joint shot up because they thought it had a child sex ring."  You're going to have to tell us what you're talking about, but it doesn't really matter.  There is no logical way you can link something like that to Trump.

4) "congressman assaulted a journalist for asking him a question."  If you're talking about that "journalist" (extreme need for the quotes) from The Guardian, he started the altercation.  I'm sick of people playing the victim when people fight back.

5) "Trump bragged about that assaulted journalist."  He joked about it.  And, yeah, people will defend themselves.

6) "They are trying to bomb the Clintons, Obama, Soros and others."  While we still don't know the actual motive, you can't just say "Because Trump"



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Machiavellian said:
Kalkano said:

This shit makes me FUME.

They're called the "enemy of the people" because they do nothing but LIE, and that in NO WAY promotes violence.  The crap being spewed here is exactly the same thing that they constantly spew. 

crissindahouse said:
Did I just read it's the fault of those who got the bombs to get them and that we should blame them? WTF

Please don't twist my words.  Obviously the ultimate blame falls on the person actually sending shit like this (and let's be honest, this stuff has targeted both sides of the aisle).  But, when you are actively calling for harassment and incivility, you've obviously played a major role.

Hmmm, so you believe that the mainstream media is the enemy of the people because they lie.  What exactly has the mainstream media lied about.  I have definitely seen some statements made in error but then again, I have also seen outright lies just in the last month by the President.  If the media is the enemy then what is Trump or are you saying that Trump does not making any lies and its the media who actually doing the lying.  

It is because they lie for the express purpose of defaming their political opponents, and getting people to vote for "their side".  The simple fact that they HAVE political opponents tells you the entirety of the problem.  They do everything in their power to subvert democracy.  THAT'S why.

 

Edit: Okay, you know what.  I think this is the 2nd time that this topic is getting off topic.  So, I'm going to refrain from posting any more here.  Go ahead and respond, but I'm done.



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Kalkano said:
Machiavellian said:

Hmmm, so you believe that the mainstream media is the enemy of the people because they lie.  What exactly has the mainstream media lied about.  I have definitely seen some statements made in error but then again, I have also seen outright lies just in the last month by the President.  If the media is the enemy then what is Trump or are you saying that Trump does not making any lies and its the media who actually doing the lying.  

It is because they lie for the express purpose of defaming their political opponents, and getting people to vote for "their side".  The simple fact that they HAVE political opponents tells you the entirety of the problem.  They do everything in their power to subvert democracy.  THAT'S why.

 

Edit: Okay, you know what.  I think this is the 2nd time that this topic is getting off topic.  So, I'm going to refrain from posting any more here.  Go ahead and respond, but I'm done.

Lol, so you totally ignored the question on does Trump lie but you give this spiel about the media defaming their political opponents.  Ok, its good you did decide to not go down this line because I probably would have wasted a lot of time breaking apart every line you throw out and just continue to ask you to support if you believe the media does what you say, why would you give Trump a pass when he does the exact same thing. 



Kalkano said:
deskpro2k3 said:

Explain how they're "INSANELY twisted" 

Glad you asked!

1) "Trump made more than 4000 false or misleading claims in the past 500 days which led to:"  That's quite a claim.  Shocked that you just claimed it with no evidence.  I'm sure you have some extreme left-wing "fact check" site to back it up.  *eyeroll*

2) "Heather Heyer getting run over by a car for protesting."  Funny, I didn't realize Trump was driving, or told the driver to do it.  In no way related to Trump.

3) "A pizza joint shot up because they thought it had a child sex ring."  You're going to have to tell us what you're talking about, but it doesn't really matter.  There is no logical way you can link something like that to Trump.

4) "congressman assaulted a journalist for asking him a question."  If you're talking about that "journalist" (extreme need for the quotes) from The Guardian, he started the altercation.  I'm sick of people playing the victim when people fight back.

5) "Trump bragged about that assaulted journalist."  He joked about it.  And, yeah, people will defend themselves.

6) "They are trying to bomb the Clintons, Obama, Soros and others."  While we still don't know the actual motive, you can't just say "Because Trump"

^^^^

 

 



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