I don’t get your “the difference again” comment here. Yes, one is somewhat endorsing violence, the other is making them fear that harm would be done to them or their loved ones. One would incite an angry crazy person, the other would incite a paranoid crazy one. But in terms of them being able to incite violence from crazies, there is no difference. I would even argue that a person is more likely to hurt others protecting themselves or the ones love rather than just lashing out in anger, but that’s me. So I find your difference comment to be a bit arbitrary.

To be honest, I find the “blame Trump because his rhetoric endorses violence” angle to be absurd (this is not aimed at just you but to everyone here). The same way I find someone blaming Bernie for a paranoid crazy guy shooting up a baseball game to be absurd. This whole thing is absurd. Absurd logic brought forth by media on both sides to get their viewers riled up, glued to their screens and to set them against each other and to influence them to vote who they want. The same way I find video games causing kids to shoot up schools to be absurd or that Islam is to blame for terrorists killing ppl to be absurd. From what I’ve read in this thread, it is disheartening to see so many ppl buying into this circus. You are not responsible for what crazies do, the crazies are. They are responsible for what they do, no one else. It would be different if your words somehow manage to influence normal ppl to do crazy things. But I do not see that as the case here.

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.


Lucky you can vote but the votes will change nothing.

Deleted dumb comment.

God, I was a moron. This is painful to read.

Racism isn’t new in this country.
Antisemitism isn’t new in this country.
Sexual assault isn’t new in the country.
Homophobia isn’t new in this country.
Bullying isn’t new in this country.
A US President who encourages & engages in these behaviors in this country is.

1) He ran an ad attacking 3 Jews
2) He rails against 'globalists'
3) He put Hillary next to a Star of David & cash
4) He told a Jewish crowd: 'You're not going to support me because I don't want your money'
5) He liked a book of Hitler speeches
6) He hires white nationalists
7) He declared himself a Nationalist. I wonder who else was ...Hitler
8) He said there was 'fine people' on both sides, including Nazis.

Trump is an ally to the Jews

Exactly what I think. The illusion of choice.

Not a single point you made was valid. I like how you believe people on your side should be free from criticism and the act to say something outside your paradigm is dangerous. You are probably a pretty extreme person to believe that. 

1, 3, 4 - There are Jews all around him. He has appointed Jews to positions which elevated their status and he has direct connections to Israel's leadership.

2 - Your most absurd argument. No one is free from criticism and globalists are ruining the west. They deserve more criticism than anyone. If you are someone who supports this mass immigration for any reason I don't know what to tell you. You are supporting all the things you dislike about capitalism and not holding them accountable. This constant stream of low skilled workers brings down the middle class and these people use more resources than they add to the economy. There have been FBI statistics proving that minorities are net negatives on economy even legal because welfare isn't free. Everything exists because of work. I understand a lazy white population isn't a good thing, but moving your power plant to another country or bringing in cheap labor who compete with lower middle class workers doesn't solve the root problem. 

5 - Never proven. His wife who said this was trying to get custody of their children and money after being cheated on. This same wife ended up supporting his presidency. 

6 - Whatever. If you are trying to equate Bannon or Trump's speech writer to say Richard Spencer you are so very wrong. Richard Spencer is a leftist and I can list about 50 reasons, but all you have to do is actually listen to all of these people to see clear differences of opinion among them. Bannon is a civil nationalist and classical liberal. Trump's speech writer is a Nationalist similar to Ann Coulter.

Basically you are trying to say he hires Richard Spencer or Hitler. Richard Spencer is pro-choice (anti-pro life movement), pro-eugenics, anti-capitalist, anti-Nationalist (yes really and he was banned by the right wing Polish government), atheist, Nietzshian, anti-free speech, supports porn for pedophiles, and pro-psychadelics. The synagogue shooter today was a Spencer styled Nazi who agreed with many left wing policies including those I listed attributed to Spencer. He's also dating a leftist and has consistently said statements that suggest conservatives are "more boring" "less intelligent" than liberals. He is the poster for Nationalism and it needs to stop.

7 - I am a Nationalist. I have five relatives who fought in WWII including my paternal grandfather who was a marine. I would definitely say that my grandfather would vote for Donald Trump. We aren't southerners either. My paternal grandfather grew up in Philadelphia and his entire family tree comes from there up to the 1850s. The 1965 immigration act was passed by outright liars. Read Ted Kennedy's points where he said white population rates would retain their levels (which were 90% of birthrates, now under 49%). The fact is minorities coming here isn't bad. Drastic changes to any stable population is bad and bringing in cultural instability is bad. I am mixed raced, but I believe America and Europe should be 80% and 90% white respectfully. Whites happen to be a minority on the planet overall so even from a human egalitarian standpoint it makes sense.  

8 - Accurate statement. I don't know what to tell you. I still follow people who were at Unite the Right on the Nationalist side. I despise Spencer, have him blocked on twitter, and have considered him dangerous for a while now. I have only defended him on principle (when he was being censored) and when he said factual statements like whites don't commit crime rates at the same as Islamic migrants. I have grown to dislike him more and would never support him today. 

Right wings terrorists feel emboldened by Trump and long for a facist state led by him.

I would be interested in your reasoning for why the point in bold is not the same as "I can't be racist, I have black friends".

That's nice and all but Trump is the president. Not Snoop or a random Antifa idiot beating a police officer. 

The situation could be better all around but that doesn't change that the most powerful person is crazy and there is a reason why so many all around the world believe he is dangerous not only for USA but for this planet

Not even sure why you mention some rapper. It's not as if there isn't already a discussion since decades if some rappers words and actions are a no-go.