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Kai_Mao said:

...And as for Echoes, that’s why they’re echoes. They can add characters from a previous build and make a few tweaks here and there in the later part of development. It’s either have them as Echoes or not have anyone at all as they’re not taking the place of any other character that could’ve been in consideration. They’re simply additional characters.

Yeah, I know.
And really, I'd rather NOT have had a second Sonic franchise rep at all, than have Shadow. More is not always better.

I sort of get that they've been rolling with villains, and preferably some with fan awareness to back them up, but Ms. Pacman or Mega Man X would've been third party echo reps that didn't carry Shadow's inescapable cringe value with them. 



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Podings said:
Kai_Mao said:

...And as for Echoes, that’s why they’re echoes. They can add characters from a previous build and make a few tweaks here and there in the later part of development. It’s either have them as Echoes or not have anyone at all as they’re not taking the place of any other character that could’ve been in consideration. They’re simply additional characters.

Yeah, I know.
And really, I'd rather NOT have had a second Sonic franchise rep at all, than have Shadow. More is not always better.

I sort of get that they've been rolling with villains, and preferably some with fan awareness to back them up, but Ms. Pacman or Mega Man X would've been third party echo reps that didn't carry Shadow's inescapable cringe value with them. 

Sonic is already in the game, so I don't see how Shadow adds more or less "cringe value" when that stuff comes from a certain part of the fanbase and not any specific games/characters themselves. Should Sakurai remove Bowser due to Bowsette? :L



Lonely_Dolphin said:

...I don't see how Shadow adds more or less "cringe value" when that stuff comes from a certain part of the fanbase and not any specific games/characters themselves. Should Sakurai remove Bowser due to Bowsette? :L


I consider Shadow horribly cringe entirely on his own terms, with no fan involvement at all. Sonic's not doing that much better himself these days, and I'd have preferred Smash to go with an more classic design for the blue blur, but I survive.

And now with the leak confirmed all kinds of fake, and Shadow nowhere to be seen or expected, I'm happy.



Podings said:
Lonely_Dolphin said:

...I don't see how Shadow adds more or less "cringe value" when that stuff comes from a certain part of the fanbase and not any specific games/characters themselves. Should Sakurai remove Bowser due to Bowsette? :L


I consider Shadow horribly cringe entirely on his own terms, with no fan involvement at all. Sonic's not doing that much better himself these days, and I'd have preferred Smash to go with an more classic design for the blue blur, but I survive.

And now with the leak confirmed all kinds of fake, and Shadow nowhere to be seen or expected, I'm happy.

I am with you on Shadow, Podings, and while I am at it I would much rather have Chun Lor anybody else than Ken if we are to have another SF2 character...ironically, tho, I'd say the echo nature of those two characters makes them mire believable than Banjo or Geno since they are so much less work.

interesting uodate on Golden Sun, tho it is not the first Golden Sun artifact in the series (music)