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Mr Puggsly said:
Carl said:
So Trump was wrong on Obama and now he's proven wrong on Warren.

How embarrassing.

If Trump is 1/64th black does that mean he belongs on the cover Ebony? Should he get to host the BET awards? Maybe he wants a wall because of his ancestors in Wakanda?

Don't put Trump on black people. They have enough problems to deal with in America as it is.



                            

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deskpro2k3 said:

No matter how they try to downplay it, she has Native American pedigree "6-10 generations ago." Dr. Carlos Bustamante, a renowned geneticist. "The error rate is less than one-in-a-thousand", he said.

First, the text used DNA from Columbians, Mexican and Peruvian DNA to prove her ancestry.

Second, the average European American has .18% Native American heritage. (compare that to Warrens 0.09% - 1.56% ratio

Lasyly, the Cherokee Nation, which she has listed herself as in a Native American cookbook recipe she published came out against her claims



Mr Puggsly said:
vivster said:

You mean like how Republicans use their veteran relatives to pander? Don't pretend as if this kind of behavior is just used by one side, you're making it worse.

Not sure where you're going with that. Republicans aren't leaning on veteran relatives like the democrats lean on racism and sexism, not even close.

If anything, politicians on both sides use their family or own military backgrounds for support. Some even exaggerate their service like Blumenthal (democrat) to win votes.

Agreed.  I mean I see what he is talking about if someone is touting a distant relative they never knew, and say that their service makes them want to fix the VA, but when elected they don't do jack shit.  But, if they are talking about a direct relative that helped shape their view on things, I have no problem with that.

LudicrousSpeed said:
RolStoppable said:

I am not defending it. I thought my post was as clear of an attack against the USA's way of doing politics as it can come.

The most entertaining thing about American politics is that they have effectively a two-party-system and its supporters keep accusing the other side of hypocrisy and double standards, seemingly oblivious to how omnipresent hypocrisy and double standards are among both parties.

Fucking nailed it. I mean honestly what can any Republican/conservative really say about any Democrat or liberal... look at the complete ass clown we have in office lol. It’s a never ending cycle of bias and nonsense where each side is too busy mud slinging and dirt digging and sabotaging the other side to ever make any actual progress.

Im not a fan of Warren but for all we know her parents told her she had NA ancestry and she took their word for it. Happens all the time.

It wouldn't be a problem if this was just a family story that she later found out was wrong.  She didn't keep it just a story when she started labeling herself as a minority and was hired as Harvard's first woman of color.

DrDoomz said:
https://youtu.be/rau0A5w3OVI

Friend posted this in facebook. Did she really claim her mom was part cherokee? Or was this interview taken out of context? I don’t really trust these sites ppl post in facebook...

And I’m hearing that she may not have cherokee blood at all. More like latin american blood. A teeny tiny bit of it.

Part Cherokee and Delaware.  Funny, cause her mom looks as lilly white as she does, which is why I don't buy her story about her dad's family rejecting her.  Unless she wants to admit that they are racist Jim Crow Democrats who were using the One Drop Rule. 

And yes, her DNA was compared to DNA samples from Latin America, not American Cherokees.

KLAMarine said:
Goodness, why does this matter? Is her ancestry supposed to make her special or something?

According to her it does.

Carl said:
So Trump was wrong on Obama and now he's proven wrong on Warren.

How embarrassing.

What strange logic.  Warren proved she wasn't a Native American, so Trump was wrong for saying she lied about being a Native American.

Rab said:
I think this was just for Trump's benefit

Yea, it'll definitely benefit him if she somehow gets the nomination.  I think Biden will beat her easily, though.



The issue isn't Warren's *True* claims but our presidents ability to lie through his teeth and lose no support. As someone from Mass I know all about the "Pocahontas" reality. She stated in a campaign ad she had native ancestry and was ripped to shreds. Now she proves that she wasn't lying and people bash her? The main issue is how Trump stated he would donate One Million dollars to a charity of her choice and now after it actually happening he said "who cares?". The U.S president is a compulsive liar.



Carl said:
Mr Puggsly said:

If Trump is 1/64th black does that mean he belongs on the cover Ebony? Should he get to host the BET awards? Maybe he wants a wall because of his ancestors in Wakanda?

Don't put Trump on black people. They have enough problems to deal with in America as it is.

I agree, they have to deal with democrats trying to solve their problems and creating bigger ones.

Go listen to the Kanye speech at the white house, he will explain it to you.



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“It wouldn't be a problem if this was just a family story that she later found out was wrong.  She didn't keep it just a story when she started labeling herself as a minority and was hired as Harvard's first woman of color.”

She was hired in 1995. The article that came out labeling her Harvard’s “woman of color” came out a year later. An article and label she distanced from and had no idea where it came from or why it came up. Multiple sources confirmed years ago her heritage had nothing to do with her career.

So essentially you’re using decades old article long since debunked to try and twist a situation into something it wasn’t. The very fact that she’d agree to take the DNA analysis and release the results should prove to any logical person that she wasn’t acting intentionally dishonest. 

Try to make your own arguments, don’t parrot Fox News LOL.



Eagle367 said:
My parents used to tell me that while our countries politics were shitty, there are countries with better standards where corruption and hypocrisy don't reign supreme and they talked about US. They made it seem like it was this Uber powerful nation that had the entire world in it's grasp and were much farther ahead in tech than any other country and their military was so powerful but everyone was accountable and they made no distinction between president and poor person. Now I realise that they were highly mistaken or they were trolling me cause this country is so damn d'corript, they have am archaic 3 party system where both parties are corrupt, hypocritical and ruled by oligarchs. Their military is the strongest but is also kind of a joke(if you find militaries killing innocent people in foreign lands funny) and they are no longer the leader in tech, They have a horrible healthcare and education system and their infrastructure is just horrible. Also they act like cartoon caricatures of themselves for some reason. Now I can only laugh in disbelief at the stupidity of America and the naiveté of my parents/ or the awesome way they trolled me

Tell us about the vast wisdom and intelligence of your people, that you can climb up on a high horse to make fun of other people.



Majin-Tenshinhan said:
Jumpin said:
This is the problem with the US. You guys focus on a person’s race or gender more than their policies. Your priorities are the real joke.

But this is a person who has gone through life claiming minority status and getting special treatment because of it. There's a reason people are focusing on her race.

And you say that based on.................... nothing... 

Way to slander one of the most honest and substantial politicians in the country that actually represents the people and not big money interests. Was the face behind the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and one of the few vocal politicians that actually tried to have accountability to the "too big to fail" banks that crashed the world economy (and will do it again in no time).

Yeah, let's see that proof of special treatment, I'm sure it really exists



NintendoCM said:

The issue isn't Warren's *True* claims but our presidents ability to lie through his teeth and lose no support. As someone from Mass I know all about the "Pocahontas" reality. She stated in a campaign ad she had native ancestry and was ripped to shreds. Now she proves that she wasn't lying and people bash her? The main issue is how Trump stated he would donate One Million dollars to a charity of her choice and now after it actually happening he said "who cares?". The U.S president is a compulsive liar.

Quit playing loose with the facts.  Especially when we have video to prove what she actually said.  She didn't just claim to have some distant ancestry, which most Americans have, she claimed her mother had so much Cherokee and Delaware blood that her father's family rejected her.  She claimed she was a Cherokee in a Cookbook about Native American foods (a recipe she stole from a French chef) and on her job applications.  Trump, likewise, said if she could prove she actually was Indian, he would donate.  Guess what?  She proved the exact opposite.

LudicrousSpeed said:

“It wouldn't be a problem if this was just a family story that she later found out was wrong.  She didn't keep it just a story when she started labeling herself as a minority and was hired as Harvard's first woman of color.”

She was hired in 1995. The article that came out labeling her Harvard’s “woman of color” came out a year later. An article and label she distanced from and had no idea where it came from or why it came up. Multiple sources confirmed years ago her heritage had nothing to do with her career.

So essentially you’re using decades old article long since debunked to try and twist a situation into something it wasn’t. The very fact that she’d agree to take the DNA analysis and release the results should prove to any logical person that she wasn’t acting intentionally dishonest. 

Try to make your own arguments, don’t parrot Fox News LOL.

How about you stop parroting CNN?

And them coming out now talking about how it didn't affect them hiring her (though, one did admit it was discussed) is just them saving their own asses.  They were lied to by a white woman claiming to be Cherokee, a nation that has now come out and denounced her and her claims.  They were under incredible pressure to diversity hire.  And the article being written just a mere year after her hiring means what?  If anything, that helps my point.  They were still getting pressure, so why not have an article talking about Harvard's first woman of color.  Something I don't believe she forced them to recant at the time.

You can continue to believe lies and continue to move goalposts from "she is Indian" to "well, she has very distant blood relation so that counts" all you want, but its not going to work.  She lied about being a Cherokee.  She lied in a printed book.  She lied on multiple job applications trying to get a leg up in a environment looking to hire people with diverse ethnicity.  With the growing amount of hypocrisy and mental gymnastics the Left is showing to back their side, it's no wonder people are walking away.



And comments are now disabled on her video trumpeting the ridiculousness. I guess she can't stand the heat of the truth. Probably doesn't help that people were quoting the actual Cherokee Nation denouncing her. I bet once the dislike bar grows larger than the like bar, that too will be disabled.