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DrDoomz on 16 October 2018

https://youtu.be/rau0A5w3OVI

Friend posted this in facebook. Did she really claim her mom was part cherokee? Or was this interview taken out of context? I don’t really trust these sites ppl post in facebook...

And I’m hearing that she may not have cherokee blood at all. More like latin american blood. A teeny tiny bit of it.



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vivster on 16 October 2018
Mr Puggsly said:
vivster said:
All this heritage nonsense is bullshit anyway. Who your distant ancestors were shouldn't matter one bit for you. I don't care if your great great great grandpa was killed, raped, enslaved or got his land taken away. That shit has nothing to do with you and I won't respect you any more or less for it, let alone pay you reparations or give you special rights. You've done shit and mooching off of what your ancestors did or have suffered for is despicable.

Shhh... democrats need those arguments to pander for votes.

You mean like how Republicans use their veteran relatives to pander? Don't pretend as if this kind of behavior is just used by one side, you're making it worse.



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LudicrousSpeed on 16 October 2018
RolStoppable said:
thismeintiel said:

So you defend this with whataboutism?  I could have sworn the Left was done with whataboutism.  At least they seemed to have a problem when the Trump supporters used it.

The reason this is worth discussing is that not only are the Dems supposed to be the party of the minority, where this woman lied for decades about her heritage to advance in life, but it also shows the ridiculous double standards Dems have for themselves versus the rest of the world.  I mean, just in the past few months we had the Kavanaugh "guilty before proven innocent" from an accusation of 36 years ago, with absolutely no proof, while at the same time the 2nd in command of the DNC was being accused of assault from just 2 years ago, with the woman claiming to actually have proof.  Of course, they defend their guy, instead of adopting the standard they want for everyone else, just kick them out.  Now, we have the Left calling racism left and right, talking about how bad cultural appropriation is, but are now defending a woman who actually did cultural appropriate.  And not because she thought a Eastern dress looked cool, so she wore it, but to actually get positions as a "person of color."

I am not defending it. I thought my post was as clear of an attack against the USA's way of doing politics as it can come.

The most entertaining thing about American politics is that they have effectively a two-party-system and its supporters keep accusing the other side of hypocrisy and double standards, seemingly oblivious to how omnipresent hypocrisy and double standards are among both parties.

Fucking nailed it. I mean honestly what can any Republican/conservative really say about any Democrat or liberal... look at the complete ass clown we have in office lol. It’s a never ending cycle of bias and nonsense where each side is too busy mud slinging and dirt digging and sabotaging the other side to ever make any actual progress.

Im not a fan of Warren but for all we know her parents told her she had NA ancestry and she took their word for it. Happens all the time.



KLAMarine on 16 October 2018

Goodness, why does this matter? Is her ancestry supposed to make her special or something?



Carl on 16 October 2018

So Trump was wrong on Obama and now he's proven wrong on Warren.

How embarrassing.



                            

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Rab on 16 October 2018

I think this was just for Trump's benefit



Mr Puggsly on 16 October 2018
vivster said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Shhh... democrats need those arguments to pander for votes.

You mean like how Republicans use their veteran relatives to pander? Don't pretend as if this kind of behavior is just used by one side, you're making it worse.

Not sure where you're going with that. Republicans aren't leaning on veteran relatives like the democrats lean on racism and sexism, not even close.

If anything, politicians on both sides use their family or own military backgrounds for support. Some even exaggerate their service like Blumenthal (democrat) to win votes.



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Mr Puggsly on 16 October 2018
Carl said:
So Trump was wrong on Obama and now he's proven wrong on Warren.

How embarrassing.

If Trump is 1/64th black does that mean he belongs on the cover Ebony? Should he get to host the BET awards? Maybe he wants a wall because of his ancestors in Wakanda?



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LivingMetal on 16 October 2018
Jumpin said:
This is the problem with the US. You guys focus on a person’s race or gender more than their policies. Your priorities are the real joke.

Unfortunately, the real problem is the false perception that we " focus on a person’s race or gender more than their policies."  This view is perpetuated by those who are using such characteristics for political gain.  And if your policy or political view point doesn't line up with those who are exploiting those characteristics, you're labeled as "hate" or "anti" of those people or groups of people with those characteristics.

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LivingMetal on 16 October 2018
KLAMarine said:
Goodness, why does this matter? Is her ancestry supposed to make her special or something?

She thinks so.