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Mr Puggsly said:
OhNoYouDont said:

Not too good at thinking are you? 2 talking heads does not constitute the "main stream left". Keep failing.

https://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html

Well it was a lot of talking heads being racist.

Lets be blunt, a black republican or right leaning is treated as a traitor among their people. Blacks with opposing views are essentially exiled.

If a white person has right leaning views, that person is a racist that hates women. Meanwhile a black is an Uncle Tom, a token negro, blah blah blah. Its the same talking points from the left every time.

Even if you can pull up examples of conservatives being unreasonable or gross, that doesn't change the fact mainstream left wing voices are disgusting. If people said these same things on Fox News they would generally be removed and the network would be attacked. Left wing media doesn't have to be tactful because they're the good guys thus above reproach.

 

You are right, to an extent, and that’s what bothers me. As I’ve stated previously, blacks aren’t beholdended to the Democratic Party and we don’t have to be liberal. So when I hear all this “Uncle Tom” and “traitor” talk it bothers me. And when I defend a black conservative ona liberal site my blackness almost always comes into question, with many folks asking me to “prove it”. GTFOH! That being said, there are things Fox News gets away with that other networks don’t. The network’s penchants for conveying false information is unlike any other. I’ll admit other networks also relay false information but the others often issue a retraction. Fox will just never speak of the issue ever again. I guess that’s their way of saying they messed up. Reminds me of my ex-wife actually. 

One thing I really hate that the liberal media is doing right now is all the “down with privileged white men” talk. There are a lot privileged white men who do good for the word. I think that’s the most divisive topic right move to be honest. But then you have Tucker Carlson trying to outdo them with his almost nightly cry that minorities are gonna take over and make white lives not matter. These things are what’s really really creating the divide in the country. 24 hour “news” that’s designed to tell folks that others are the enemy. 



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Mr Puggsly said:
OhNoYouDont said:

Not too good at thinking are you? 2 talking heads does not constitute the "main stream left". Keep failing.

https://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html

Well it was a lot of talking heads being racist.

Lets be blunt, a black republican or right leaning is treated as a traitor among their people. Blacks with opposing views are essentially exiled.

If a white person has right leaning views, that person is a racist that hates women. Meanwhile a black is an Uncle Tom, a token negro, blah blah blah. Its the same talking points from the left every time.

Even if you can pull up examples of conservatives being unreasonable or gross, that doesn't change the fact mainstream left wing voices are disgusting. If people said these same things on Fox News they would generally be removed and the network would be attacked. Left wing media doesn't have to be tactful because they're the good guys thus above reproach.

 

Well I'm not sure you mean by "a lot". The person I responded to had a video of perhaps two guests speaking on the show who could be considered to have made racist remarks. I'm going to assume you mean you have watched many different network interviews though because at the moment your comment makes no sense in context.

You may disagree that low IQ people tend to be racist and conservative but that's a scientific fact as I've already demonstrated.

I wonder why black people would be bothered by a minority siding with a social conservative? Could it be that anyone with an ounce of intellect would understand that a certain political party is responsible for keeping the status quo? E.g. disproportionate sentencing and targeting of minorities, especially blacks, in this country?

This isn't rocket science.



FentonCrackshell said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Well it was a lot of talking heads being racist.

Lets be blunt, a black republican or right leaning is treated as a traitor among their people. Blacks with opposing views are essentially exiled.

If a white person has right leaning views, that person is a racist that hates women. Meanwhile a black is an Uncle Tom, a token negro, blah blah blah. Its the same talking points from the left every time.

Even if you can pull up examples of conservatives being unreasonable or gross, that doesn't change the fact mainstream left wing voices are disgusting. If people said these same things on Fox News they would generally be removed and the network would be attacked. Left wing media doesn't have to be tactful because they're the good guys thus above reproach.

 

 

You are right, to an extent, and that’s what bothers me. As I’ve stated previously, blacks aren’t beholdended to the Democratic Party and we don’t have to be liberal. So when I hear all this “Uncle Tom” and “traitor” talk it bothers me. And when I defend a black conservative ona liberal site my blackness almost always comes into question, with many folks asking me to “prove it”. GTFOH! That being said, there are things Fox News gets away with that other networks don’t. The network’s penchants for conveying false information is unlike any other. I’ll admit other networks also relay false information but the others often issue a retraction. Fox will just never speak of the issue ever again. I guess that’s their way of saying they messed up. Reminds me of my ex-wife actually. 

One thing I really hate that the liberal media is doing right now is all the “down with privileged white men” talk. There are a lot privileged white men who do good for the word. I think that’s the most divisive topic right move to be honest. But then you have Tucker Carlson trying to outdo them with his almost nightly cry that minorities are gonna take over and make white lives not matter. These things are what’s really really creating the divide in the country. 24 hour “news” that’s designed to tell folks that others are the enemy. 

I watch a few Fox News shows and I find they have to more careful about lying than other networks because they always get called out on it. I don't want to get in big debate about it, but I find Fox News has more reasonable discussions and doesn't resort to name calling like the other networks. I'm not arguing dumb shit is never said on Fox News, but it has many voices on there.

Meanwhile, CNN and MSNBC gives shows to people that simply dismiss right leaning views as racist, sexist, etc. Essentially, if you watch those channels that's the talking points they lean on too often. Even with Kanye, all the talking heads were in sync by attacking his mental health or blackness. They argued his views weren't even discussing, they just attacked his character. Because right leaning views should simply be dismissed as racist or sexist even when it has nothing to do with either.

Tucker's main point about minorities is they are in lock step with democrats and that's why democrats push racism. Blacks and Hispanics are easy votes, we've got a society where blacks and Hispanics vote democrat or they're traitors. Essentially minorities are power for democrats and they don't have work hard for their votes, its not really a debate. With whites though, its harder to win those votes and that's why democrats tend to attack white people for not supporting them more. Remember, Hillary only attacked white women and people seemed okay with that. For the record, I'm a Hispanic that has been attacked for opposing democrats. Apparently I should care more about, "my people."



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OhNoYouDont said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Well it was a lot of talking heads being racist.

Lets be blunt, a black republican or right leaning is treated as a traitor among their people. Blacks with opposing views are essentially exiled.

If a white person has right leaning views, that person is a racist that hates women. Meanwhile a black is an Uncle Tom, a token negro, blah blah blah. Its the same talking points from the left every time.

Even if you can pull up examples of conservatives being unreasonable or gross, that doesn't change the fact mainstream left wing voices are disgusting. If people said these same things on Fox News they would generally be removed and the network would be attacked. Left wing media doesn't have to be tactful because they're the good guys thus above reproach.

 

 

Well I'm not sure you mean by "a lot". The person I responded to had a video of perhaps two guests speaking on the show who could be considered to have made racist remarks. I'm going to assume you mean you have watched many different network interviews though because at the moment your comment makes no sense in context.

You may disagree that low IQ people tend to be racist and conservative but that's a scientific fact as I've already demonstrated.

I wonder why black people would be bothered by a minority siding with a social conservative? Could it be that anyone with an ounce of intellect would understand that a certain political party is responsible for keeping the status quo? E.g. disproportionate sentencing and targeting of minorities, especially blacks, in this country?

This isn't rocket science.

How am I supposed to respond to respond to conservatives having low IQs?

I certainly know the most violent and illiterate ridden communities are run by democrats. So I don't know, maybe we have lots of idiots supporting the left as well. At the very least the left has enough idiots to keep them in power. Its democrats that want less voting limitations, because they know many of their supporters are too stupid to get an ID or whatever. Dems also want to give voting rights to felons. Why? Because criminals love democrats.

In a nut shell, the dems love idiots as long as they get their votes. I have not heard a single democrat argue they don't want votes from idiots, instead they spend a fortune trying to get them to vote. Because they're confident idiots lean democrat.



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Mr Puggsly said:
OhNoYouDont said:

Well I'm not sure you mean by "a lot". The person I responded to had a video of perhaps two guests speaking on the show who could be considered to have made racist remarks. I'm going to assume you mean you have watched many different network interviews though because at the moment your comment makes no sense in context.

You may disagree that low IQ people tend to be racist and conservative but that's a scientific fact as I've already demonstrated.

I wonder why black people would be bothered by a minority siding with a social conservative? Could it be that anyone with an ounce of intellect would understand that a certain political party is responsible for keeping the status quo? E.g. disproportionate sentencing and targeting of minorities, especially blacks, in this country?

This isn't rocket science.

How am I supposed to respond to respond to conservatives having low IQs?

I certainly know the most violent and illiterate ridden communities are run by democrats. So I don't know, maybe we have lots of idiots supporting the left as well. At the very least the left has enough idiots to keep them in power. Its democrats that want less voting limitations, because they know many of their supporters are too stupid to get an ID or whatever. Dems also want to give voting rights to felons. Why? Because criminals love democrats.

In a nut shell, the dems love idiots as long as they get their votes. I have not heard a single democrat argue they don't want votes from idiots, instead they spend a fortune trying to get them to vote. Because they're confident idiots lean democrat.

Democrats are so disgusting that in California it is no longer a felony to donate blood when you know you have HIV. This is obviously done so these scum bags can vote Democrat. How messed up is that? Not to mention they want open borders to get more votes even if it costs Americans their jobs and lives.

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Snoopy said:

 

Democrats are so disgusting that in California it is no longer a felony to donate blood when you know you have HIV. This is obviously done so these scum bags can vote Democrat.

Doesn’t West Korea test all blood samples prior to transfusions?  If not, that is where the real scandal is.  If they do test the blood, any unacceptable specimen will be rejected, so there is little point in sending the police after donors.  There are more responsible uses for their time and the taxpayer dollar than a pointless deterrent for getting tested for STD’s.

Not that the Republican Party cares about responsible spending or practical solutions.



collint0101 said:
John2290 said:
I can't believe the mainstream lefist media are making this into a bad thing. I thought it was hyperbole when people say democrats in the US treat black people as their slaves politically but seeing the reaction to this and how racist they have exposed themselves I think it might have some semblance of being true. They seem to tokenize blacks for votes and to rally their own agendas and a black man meeting with Trump and wearing a MAGA hat seems to terrify them. I've seen nothing but racism from the left being thrown at Kanye over the last few days with only right wing people being the only sane voices. Now it's clear to be where and why racism is being kept alive and it's not the right. What I've seen on CNN the last 48 hours scares the fuck out of me. I hope this is a wake up call that unless the divisiveness stops we'll still be dealing with racism generations from now. Kanye has balls of steal to stand up for what he believes, use his influence to make change he sees as positoves and help out some people who were screwed over by the justice system and it's shameful the left are trying to tare him down loke a slave who stepped out of line. I'm ashamed to be on this earth with people who still act this way three generations strong post the civil rights movement.

People like you are annoying. I'm black and I don't vote republican because I refuse to vote for a party that doesn't believe in climate change or calls for banning Muslims or defends confederate statues or puts NRA support over gun reform or makes the process of legal immigration harder and more time consuming and no amount of incoherent rambling from a millionaire, out of touch rapper that hasn't worked a day at a real job since I was in diapers is going to change that. Why do people like you constantly assume that people like me a brainwashed  or a slave simply because I don't want any part of your bs 

Because they have absolutely no clue what it means to be black in America.  Kanye is suddenly some clairvoyant savant because he is willing to be black and support Trump.  Instead, they forget he is the same clown who they thought was a complete idiot when he jump on stage at the VMAs' or the same bipolar guy they use to call all kinds of names because of his mouth.  Now he is respected because he supports Trump and he is black.  Since they never listen to his music, they will never know the 2 edge sword that is Kanye.  Should be fun as he turn to his other side and they go back to condemning him for his views.



Machiavellian said:
collint0101 said:

People like you are annoying. I'm black and I don't vote republican because I refuse to vote for a party that doesn't believe in climate change or calls for banning Muslims or defends confederate statues or puts NRA support over gun reform or makes the process of legal immigration harder and more time consuming and no amount of incoherent rambling from a millionaire, out of touch rapper that hasn't worked a day at a real job since I was in diapers is going to change that. Why do people like you constantly assume that people like me a brainwashed  or a slave simply because I don't want any part of your bs 

Because they have absolutely no clue what it means to be black in America.  Kanye is suddenly some clairvoyant savant because he is willing to be black and support Trump.  Instead, they forget he is the same clown who they thought was a complete idiot when he jump on stage at the VMAs' or the same bipolar guy they use to call all kinds of names because of his mouth.  Now he is respected because he supports Trump and he is black.  Since they never listen to his music, they will never know the 2 edge sword that is Kanye.  Should be fun as he turn to his other side and they go back to condemning him for his views.

I was listening to a podcast featuring Bret Easton Ellis and Kanye West. Listening because I wanted to hear how a narcissistic author who writes about narcissistic self-centred sociopaths would interact with a narcissistic self-centred guy who thinks everything is about him. It didn't disappoint. When Kanye asks himself what his profession is, he answers that it would have to be "creative genius" but then says the only problem with that title is that it is too long, and he finds genius difficult to spell sometimes.

Before Republicans discovered he liked Trump they'd only refer to Kanye as a gay fish.



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PortisheadBiscuit said:
Mystro-Sama said:

Tell me more about your vast knowledge of hip-hop and its many sub genres, since you're so informed on the subject.

I'd love to be privy to this knowledge as well, he and Lurker have made some pretty inflammatory, albeit empty claims about hip hop music/culture. 

Thats because they're ignorant. They're either basing these claims off the songs they hear by chance or what other people told them. 



Mystro-Sama said:
PortisheadBiscuit said:

I'd love to be privy to this knowledge as well, he and Lurker have made some pretty inflammatory, albeit empty claims about hip hop music/culture. 

Thats because they're ignorant. They're either basing these claims off the songs they hear by chance or what other people told them. 

So funny too how silent they became once they were asked to elaborate on their claims.