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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Hardware 22 September 2018

Megiddo said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

They did so last year already and it didn't suffice for the first spot when Switch had only Xenoblade Chronicles 2 as their big title

They did so last year in just 2 days of November, and November was an absolute NPD blowout in favor of PS4. In December the PS4 did not have any deals.

Ummm how does NPD Nov relate to Dec sales?



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zorg1000 said:
Megiddo said:

They did so last year in just 2 days of November, and November was an absolute NPD blowout in favor of PS4. In December the PS4 did not have any deals.

Ummm how does NPD Nov relate to Dec sales?

It doesn't, I find his posts on this site to be extremely peculiar 



zorg1000 said:
Megiddo said:

They did so last year in just 2 days of November, and November was an absolute NPD blowout in favor of PS4. In December the PS4 did not have any deals.

Ummm how does NPD Nov relate to Dec sales?

Did you even attempt to read the posts I was responding to? I will summarize for you.

 

JSG: You must be on drugs if you think PS4 has a chance to win December.

Last: Well I do think Switch will win but if Sony does a price drop it has a chance.

Boffer: They did do a price drop in December last year and still lost.

Me: The price drop was in November and it led to big sales. December had no price drop 

 

C'mon zorg, you are more intelligent than this. You can read and follow a simple discussion. I know it.



zorg1000 said:
Megiddo said:

They did so last year in just 2 days of November, and November was an absolute NPD blowout in favor of PS4. In December the PS4 did not have any deals.

Ummm how does NPD Nov relate to Dec sales?

I don't think he claimed anything like that. He was probably arguing that in a situation where sony discounts the ps4, it's not so unlikely the ps4 might take the month, while observing that Bofferbrauer has a short memory. At least that's how I interpreted his post.

Indeed I'm starting to believe that with a price cut and some heavy marketing, the PS4 might win both december and the fiscal year...which is amazing considering it's almost at the end of its life cycle. Whether they want to cut the price is another story though...I honestly don't think they will, except maybe for the days around black friday.



Megiddo said:
zorg1000 said:

Ummm how does NPD Nov relate to Dec sales?

Did you even attempt to read the posts I was responding to? I will summarize for you.

 

JSG: You must be on drugs if you think PS4 has a chance to win December.

Last: Well I do think Switch will win but if Sony does a price drop it has a chance.

Boffer: They did do a price drop in December last year and still lost.

Me: The price drop was in November and it led to big sales. December had no price drop 

 

C'mon zorg, you are more intelligent than this. You can read and follow a simple discussion. I know it.

No deals?

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/1tb-ps4-slim-added-to-playstation-holiday-deals/1100-6455699/

https://blog.us.playstation.com/2017/12/06/tis-the-season-to-play-new-december-deals-for-ps4-pro-and-playstation-vr-systems/



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Megiddo said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

They did so last year already and it didn't suffice for the first spot when Switch had only Xenoblade Chronicles 2 as their big title

They did so last year in just 2 days of November, and November was an absolute NPD blowout in favor of PS4. In December the PS4 did not have any deals.

 

last92 said:

I don't think he claimed anything like that. He was probably arguing that in a situation where sony discounts the ps4, it's not so unlikely the ps4 might take the month, while observing that Bofferbrauer has a short memory. At least that's how I interpreted his post.

Indeed I'm starting to believe that with a price cut and some heavy marketing, the PS4 might win both december and the fiscal year...which is amazing considering it's almost at the end of its life cycle. Whether they want to cut the price is another story though...I honestly don't think they will, except maybe for the days around black friday.

It's Megiddo that has short memory, as the PS4 had many deals in december (PS4 slim -50$, Pro even -100$; keep in mind it's normal price back then was still 449$), and yet got trounced by the Switch both in the US and Worldwide even though their big holiday title was a C-list (by Nintendo sales standards) RPG.

zorg1000 said:
Megiddo said:

Did you even attempt to read the posts I was responding to? I will summarize for you.

 

JSG: You must be on drugs if you think PS4 has a chance to win December.

Last: Well I do think Switch will win but if Sony does a price drop it has a chance.

Boffer: They did do a price drop in December last year and still lost.

Me: The price drop was in November and it led to big sales. December had no price drop 

 

C'mon zorg, you are more intelligent than this. You can read and follow a simple discussion. I know it.

No deals?

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/1tb-ps4-slim-added-to-playstation-holiday-deals/1100-6455699/

https://blog.us.playstation.com/2017/12/06/tis-the-season-to-play-new-december-deals-for-ps4-pro-and-playstation-vr-systems/

Thanks for pointing out the sales in my absence.



Bofferbrauer2 said:
Megiddo said:

They did so last year in just 2 days of November, and November was an absolute NPD blowout in favor of PS4. In December the PS4 did not have any deals.

 

last92 said:

I don't think he claimed anything like that. He was probably arguing that in a situation where sony discounts the ps4, it's not so unlikely the ps4 might take the month, while observing that Bofferbrauer has a short memory. At least that's how I interpreted his post.

Indeed I'm starting to believe that with a price cut and some heavy marketing, the PS4 might win both december and the fiscal year...which is amazing considering it's almost at the end of its life cycle. Whether they want to cut the price is another story though...I honestly don't think they will, except maybe for the days around black friday.

It's Megiddo that has short memory, as the PS4 had many deals in december (PS4 slim -50$, Pro even -100$; keep in mind it's normal price back then was still 449$), and yet got trounced by the Switch both in the US and Worldwide even though their big holiday title was a C-list (by Nintendo sales standards) RPG.

zorg1000 said:

No deals?

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/1tb-ps4-slim-added-to-playstation-holiday-deals/1100-6455699/

https://blog.us.playstation.com/2017/12/06/tis-the-season-to-play-new-december-deals-for-ps4-pro-and-playstation-vr-systems/

Thanks for pointing out the sales in my absence.

The PS4 slim was on discount for a week (17 - 24) for $249 during December. A permanent $199 price point is a whole different animal. Especially for a 5YO console.



PotentHerbs said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

 

It's Megiddo that has short memory, as the PS4 had many deals in december (PS4 slim -50$, Pro even -100$; keep in mind it's normal price back then was still 449$), and yet got trounced by the Switch both in the US and Worldwide even though their big holiday title was a C-list (by Nintendo sales standards) RPG.

Thanks for pointing out the sales in my absence.

The PS4 slim was on discount for a week (17 - 24) for $249 during December. A permanent $199 price point is a whole different animal. Especially for a 5YO console.

Ok but I dont think a permanent $199 price point for December was ever stated by anyone so I dont see how that's a counter point.



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PS4 sales in Europe are just wow  they're truly what makes the difference.



I mean to be honest the whole conversation you all are having started because JSG87 replied to someone and said "Your on drugs if you think ps4 is gonna win December 😂😂" even though that person never said ANYTHING about the PS4 taking Dec or any other month. They just said good to see the PS4 on top and there is no stopping it now and it will sell well over 100 million consoles.

Then of course from there...you all know the rest of your conversation lol.



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