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ClassicGamingWizzz said:
Enemy said:
It's not like Venom is any good or making money. It only made a pathetic 300 million in 10 days with an atrocious audience rating of 89% and a B+. Before the movie was revealed everyone said Venom without Spiderman would be impossible and they were right.

Yeah, Sony should give the Venom and Carnage IP back to Disney so Disney can have a monopoly and so Marvel can make it R rated and gory. Marvel has a great track record with R rated horror movies. It would be awesome to see Carnage ripping out people's intestines while Captain America and Spiderman watch in shock. Marvel would totally allow it if enough internet nerds attack them on social media and ambush them in airport restrooms.

Thread should be fucking locked after this amazing post, people need to take Marvel balls out of their mouths, they do great shit like Avengers but medíocre shit too like antman, and turds like ironman 3 , Thor 2.critics are bashing and do shit reviewers because they want Marvel to get it all, this time people Spike. Venom was a sucessão, deal with it. Spiderman homecoming is mediocre also, i hope they get their shit together on far from home

"Marvel/Disney doesn't do 'edgy'"... riiiiiiight, which is why they said they'll let Deadpool remain R-rated in the MCU and, like I said earlier, Wesley Snipes is in talks of bringing Blade, another R-rated property to phase 4 of the MCU with TWO potential projects. You better believe he'll have something to say about that as Ryan Reynolds surely would have. I highly doubt they'd be having these talks with him if they weren't at least open to the idea of it being R-rated as it clearly should be (of course they are, they already said they're down with R-rated Deadpool), and unlike Sony with Carnage, I think they know it won't work unless it's R-rated. I trust Marvel/Disney with ADULT properties more than I do Sony right now, making a kid's movie with the least kid-friendly comic book character there is, you can't make this shit up.

And about the whole ripping out intestines thing: it's part of his character FYI, it's almost like saying the Punisher shouldn't be anything but the gun-totting badass who hunts and tortures gangsters John Wick-style that we've always known him to be (who BTW, has an R-rated Netflix show and an appearance in another from the suits at Marvel/Disney, another one-up on Sony). I'm sure the alternative of having Carnage push people (which is literally all Riot did to avoid an R rating for Venom) will be SO much better. /sarcasm

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Seriously, fuck Avi Arad, guy's a total fucking hack. How this guy still has a job after saying this shit is beyond me.

Yeah, Arad, a guy who pushed his grandmother down the steps and killing her, drilled his mother's dog's brains out after attempting to murder her by dropping a hair dryer in a bathtub and then goes on a massive killing spree, including burning down an orphanage before he finally puts on the red symbiote and starts massacring people in vomit-inducing ways just for fun after all that supposedly "not R" material, which includes him literally ripping their guts out and sawing them in half (!) and then throws a baby down a 5 story building is TOTALLY somebody we should feel sorry for and be aimed at your grandson.

Can't wait to see a nonviolent serial killer who doesn't stab people and a vampire who can't bite, that's gonna be epic.

At this point, I don't know who fucks up their comic book properties more: Sony or WB.



I wonder if it is even possible these days to make a good superhero film without it being "Rated R."

The whole genre feels neutered these days; completely lacking potency. Deadpool and Logan are really the only ones I can think of that I found good. Maybe for younger children other superhero films are still entertaining.

Rated PG for Piece of Garbage.



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Jumpin said:

I wonder if it is even possible these days to make a good superhero film without it being "Rated R."

The whole genre feels neutered these days; completely lacking potency. Deadpool and Logan are really the only ones I can think of that I found good. Maybe for younger children other superhero films are still entertaining.

Rated PG for Piece of Garbage.

While I still find enjoyment in PG-13 CBMs (Infinity War was fucking amazing), some comic book properties need an R rating in order to justify the elements of said character, this being one of them. For Sony to butcher Carnage like this and then insult our intelligence by saying "if you really know the comics, there is no R here" when in said comics, he literally rips people's guts out and mutilates them in extremely graphic detail is a whole other level of fail.

Moreover, I'm worried of the terrible precedent this COULD set. Before long, we could get PG-13 Deadpool (and not just the edit we're getting in December), PG-13 Punisher, PG-13 Blade, PG-13 Spawn, franchises that were never meant to be anything BUT R being kiddified. It's not about "needing to quench that blood lust", it's about respecting the damn source material. Hell, like I said earlier, Marvel is in talks with Wesley Snipes about a Blade movie for phase 4 of the MCU. This COULD spell trouble for that.  

I don't think Marvel is that stupid, though. I think they know it's an R-rated property through and through and was never meant to be anything less (and could never work with anything less), unlike Sony with Carnage.



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