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PwerlvlAmy said:
They've tried this before and it never works. Celebrities asking people to vote D or R never works.

 

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deskpro2k3 said:

Not exactly^

You're missing the point. Trump was also a celebrity prior to becoming a candidate. Hillary also had many celeb endorsements and won the popular vote by over 3 million. Of course it didn't turn out well for her because of the electoral college.. With the right celebrity endorsements, political campaigns can do quite well. To say it never does, is not true.

No. Everything I said is indeed true above. Events I listed above show it to be. You gave an example of Oprah, I gave you 3 recent accounts for my side as proof.  Also winning popular vote in america is like winning a participation trophy, doesnt mean anything, at all.  That much is indeed true. 

 

It wasn't to long ago that you said celebrity endorsement never works. I gave you proof that it does work. (not all the time)

I think we're done here. 

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deskpro2k3 said:

 

PwerlvlAmy said:
They've tried this before and it never works. Celebrities asking people to vote D or R never works.

 

PwerlvlAmy said:

No. Everything I said is indeed true above. Events I listed above show it to be. You gave an example of Oprah, I gave you 3 recent accounts for my side as proof.  Also winning popular vote in america is like winning a participation trophy, doesnt mean anything, at all.  That much is indeed true. 

 

It wasn't to long ago that you said celebrity endorsement never works. I gave you proof that it does work. (not all the time)

I think we're done here. 

Aye it seems so



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Well its good that she is telling people to vote, more people need to be engage in politics.



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SuaveSocialist said:
Immersiveunreality said:

I think its more important that people knowledgeable vote instead of following an idol.

So, nay to Reagan, Arnie, Beloved Leader and Kanye, then.

Indeed, nay to all those votes if the voters did it blindly.



darkenergy said:
Well its good that she is telling people to vote, more people need to be engage in politics.

It's nothing new though.

Look at the past elections. There are dozens of videos with hundreds of celebrities in them all urging people to go out and vote.



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Mbolibombo said:
How many % of eligible voters usually vote in the US?

Sadly, far too few.  We get about 60% voter turnout during presidential elections and 40% voter turnout during the midterms (like this one).

 

Other countries look at us rather confused because we push 'democracy' all over the world and then don't even exercise it ourselves.



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SpokenTruth said:
Mbolibombo said:
How many % of eligible voters usually vote in the US?

Sadly, far too few.  We get about 60% voter turnout during presidential elections and 40% voter turnout during the midterms (like this one).

 

Other countries look at us rather confused because we push 'democracy' all over the world and then don't even exercise it ourselves.

In Belgium people need to go vote or get fined heavily and that results in a lot of people just voting on whatever propaganda the media trows at them, i am sure that also happens over there but maybe you guys have a lesser percentage of those kind of voters.

Proper neutral politicial education would be handy but such a thing could be easily corrupted sadly.



Immersiveunreality said:
SpokenTruth said:

Sadly, far too few.  We get about 60% voter turnout during presidential elections and 40% voter turnout during the midterms (like this one).

 

Other countries look at us rather confused because we push 'democracy' all over the world and then don't even exercise it ourselves.

In Belgium people need to go vote or get fined heavily and that results in a lot of people just voting on whatever propaganda the media trows at them, i am sure that also happens over there but maybe you guys have a lesser percentage of those kind of voters.

Proper neutral politicial education would be handy but such a thing could be easily corrupted sadly.

Being fined for not voting is a bit much.  What we should do is register all citizens by default and vote on the weekend (rather than Tuesday).



Massimus - "Trump already has democrat support."

SpokenTruth said:
Immersiveunreality said:

In Belgium people need to go vote or get fined heavily and that results in a lot of people just voting on whatever propaganda the media trows at them, i am sure that also happens over there but maybe you guys have a lesser percentage of those kind of voters.

Proper neutral politicial education would be handy but such a thing could be easily corrupted sadly.

Being fined for not voting is a bit much.  What we should do is register all citizens by default and vote on the weekend (rather than Tuesday).

You do realize many people work on weekends right? But one may argue that some people go and vote to get out of work.

Imagine if it was a national holiday. I can see a lot of people doing fun things on that day instead of voting. It's their day off, they may not want to sit in a line to vote. Or take off Monday as well and make a four day weekend or something.



SpokenTruth said:
Mbolibombo said:
How many % of eligible voters usually vote in the US?

Sadly, far too few.  We get about 60% voter turnout during presidential elections and 40% voter turnout during the midterms (like this one).

 

Other countries look at us rather confused because we push 'democracy' all over the world and then don't even exercise it ourselves.

That's legitimate scary. Is there a reason to why it's so low?

We had a rate of 87% I believe in our latest election

irstupid said:
SpokenTruth said:

Being fined for not voting is a bit much.  What we should do is register all citizens by default and vote on the weekend (rather than Tuesday).

You do realize many people work on weekends right? But one may argue that some people go and vote to get out of work.

Imagine if it was a national holiday. I can see a lot of people doing fun things on that day instead of voting. It's their day off, they may not want to sit in a line to vote. Or take off Monday as well and make a four day weekend or something.

There's no chance to vote prior to election day? In Sweden you can vote several weeks ahead of election day. Under controlled circumstances ofc.